The majority of people liked what they saw. Don't let the Era bubble fool you.Unfortunately I think the execs are going to confuse hype for Picard and the resulting subs as evidence people liked what the saw.
The majority of people liked what they saw. Don't let the Era bubble fool you.Unfortunately I think the execs are going to confuse hype for Picard and the resulting subs as evidence people liked what the saw.
The majority of people liked what they saw. Don't let the Era bubble fool you.
True, but it was good regardless.
How's life in the Mirror Universe, anyway?
Also I'd prefer they drop the over-arching plots and instead go back to quirky SF writers delivering cool little short stories that fit within a tight 50 min narrative. Build the character traits across this and weave character change into specific episodes. Thans in advance.
The acting was superb.
You can't judge it objectively. Everyone's reasons for liking it are entirely personal and unique. The only objectively wrong opinions are things like "that episode was 20 minutes long" or "Scarlett Johansson played Data".
Ikea is timeless!JFC, they used IKEA lamps... IKEA lamps!!
This is not my Star Trek!
Agreed 1000%I really liked the emotional beats in the final, especially the way they ended things for Data - the music was perfect. Yes there were some issues but I enjoyed this whole season and really like the cast - I hope they all return. The flowers coming up to protect the planet looked great but I was disappointed to see so many duplicate ships about. Likely a budget issue but I'd have preferred a smaller number with more variety? Even just have them in the background with less detail on them.
I wonder if all of you who dislike this show think that people like myself who liked it can't see any of these plot holes or scripting issues? I certainly can, but it doesn't hurt my enjoyment of the show. I guess some people watch tv for different purposes, for me it's to relax and take myself elsewhere. Picard did a good job of taking me back into the world of Star Trek. Expecting these new shows to be perfect straight off is nuts. Someone compared this to Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones earlier, considered to be two of the best most recent series, and that's mindblowing to me. I'm rewatching TNG for the first time since I was a kid and it has masses of problems in both dialogue, plot holes, and handwaving things with technobabble which doesn't change the validity of the criticisms of Picard but makes me wonder how people would view it if they were produced today.
Next season I'm hoping the new showrunner will help improve some of the areas letting the show down, like the whole thing with Agnes. A single scene about how the mindmeld implanted a command to kill Maddox would have been all they needed to essentially exonerate her but instead they've got her just smiling away with the crew at the end when she should be in the brig. Small improvements here and there would kick it up a notch.
JFC, they used IKEA lamps... IKEA lamps!!
This is not my Star Trek!
She did. Man, she really just disappears into her roles.You can't judge it objectively. Everyone's reasons for liking it are entirely personal and unique. The only objectively wrong opinions are things like "that episode was 20 minutes long" or "Scarlett Johansson played Data".
Ikea is timeless!
I can't tell if this is satire at this point. Trek re-used props all the time, and I really don't get the issue with using off the shelf stuff...JFC, they used IKEA lamps... IKEA lamps!!
This is not my Star Trek!
Reading the comments over here you'd think the series was a disaster, I started binge watching it last week, gotta say I'm loving it way more than Discovery, the conversation over at TrekBBS is way less bitter than here at least.
The "Emperor Death" of the evil sister is obviously setting up her reappearance as a Borg Queen piloting the artifact next season.
I hear the actress is growing out her mustache so can twirl it while delivering her borderline incestuous lines to her brother.
Seriously though they totally ADR'd Seven's "This is for Hugh!!" action hero line. I wonder what happened to put that in there.
"I hope you learned to swim!"
I mean the Borg cube is half submerged after all.
3. Speaking of, what happened to Narek? He kind of vanished half way through along with the rest of the Synths.
That does cut both ways.
Right. Part of what you're talking about is, for example, the way that I felt about "Star Trek: The Next Generation" when it premiered. I was sitting in front of my TV, watching "Encounter at Farpoint," and I hated it. I kind of hate-watched it — although we didn't have that term then — for most of the first season. At some point in the second season, I realized, oh, wow, that was a good episode. The show actually did get better. It takes a while to figure out what a show is.
As someone who's watched a lot of "Star Trek," you're comparing something that you have now seen once with huge expectations, to something that in some cases you've seen hundreds of times. It takes a while for you to shed your expectations, your biases, your prejudices. I was prejudiced in favor of Mr. Spock, Captain Kirk, Dr. McCoy. It took a long time to lose that.
So what does Season 2 look like?
It's going to be different in some ways. It's definitely going to go in directions that we didn't see in Season 1. I think we've been emboldened in many ways by the popularity of the show. I've only done this once, but I would imagine it's probably true for a lot of television shows especially in this era: Season 1 was in many respects about learning how to make "Star Trek: Picard." Both in a production sense, but also in terms of storytelling and who our cast is, how these characters end up forming surprising links and attachments to each other.
It's in a way that I think was probably true back with "TNG" and what I was talking about — everyone agrees, once Riker grew the beard, the show got better. It was because they learned what they had. Going forward, we're only going to be doing more of what we did, with greater confidence and with a greater sense of what this show feels like when it's firing on all engines.
Well, on "Star Trek: Discovery," it was a very big deal that Lt. Stamets, the character played by Anthony Rapp, is gay. So I think there's a certain subset of "Trek" fandom that was excited about seeing that perpetuate on "Picard."
We're doing it in a different way. We're doing it in an organic way — what feels organic to me. It emerged in that scene between Bjayzl and Seven. I think it's pretty explicit, but it's explicit in a way that feels real. Bjayzl doesn't say, "We were lovers." She doesn't say, "We were a couple," or anything like that. She says, "We were incredibly close." It felt, to me, natural. It felt like how somebody would talk about many years later, a relationship that was in the past.
And it will continue to emerge. I think it's a part of our understanding of Raffi's character. In Raffi's scene where she calls into Starfleet to try to get access for them to the Artifact, and calls that old friend of hers, I mean, to me, the implication is there too in their relationship. But she doesn't ever say, "I'm going to call this woman that I used to go out with," and she doesn't say, "Hey, remember me. I used to be your girlfriend."
I wonder if the replicator spits out everything in pieces that you order from Ikea in the 24th century and you have to put it together...
While a bit of variety may have been pleasing, that was probably one of the few things to make sense in this series. Lesson One from the Dominion War. Design a war ship. Make lots of them. Just in case. Doubly so if your shipbuilding yards get decimated down the line and you need to do things faster and more efficiently.
We saw a lot of science vessels get blown to pieces in DS9 fleet battles.
Interview with the showrunner:
‘Star Trek: Picard’ Is Divisive — and Showrunner Michael Chabon Doesn’t Mind at All
In a candid conversation, showrunner Michael Chabon discussed the challenges and rewards in boldly going where no "Trek" has gone before.variety.com
A bit about negative fan response
Some outlook on season 2:
Also seems to confirm that Seven and Raffi are gay
The majority of people liked what they saw. Don't let the Era bubble fool you.
Best TV of all time.
I like it when you post about why you dislike it. That's interesting to me, to hear people's opinions. And yours are very different to mine, so it's a good perspective to hear.There are so many straw men set up to explain why many of us dislike it:
It's serialized
It's too woke
It's modern
etc
We don't dislike it because of that we dislike it because it's not inspiring.
TNG is one of the very best and very worst of tv history. I love TNG but these days I skip so much of it for the actual good episodes and encourage other people to do the same.
Yeah didn't they say the plan was 3 years?Picard is only running another season or two, Stewart has said he doesn't want another 7-8 years working on a tv show.
This is such a polarising season for me. Data Makes me cry but the rest is mostly trash. This episode was horrible. Every character just jumping out from behind the camera ignoring actual geograph; the Romulans have 5 different planetary sterilisation patterns? (Actually that maybe doesn't surprise me); synths are ok now gh they have clearly shown themselves able to wipe out all organic life if they have a tantrum; are seven and Rafro a thing now!?
I wonder if Jonathan Del Arco (Hugh) and Jeri Ryan had a hand in that. Jonathan is gay but wasnt out when he did I, Borg. Over the years he became good friends with Jeri somehow and even appeared in at least one Voyager episode as an alien of the week.
I seem to recall an interview with Jonathan about how he and Jeri were advocates for showing homosexuality openly and plainly in Trek. Maybe they had some success.
Nope. Writers dont care to bother with actual development.'but did it come from anywhere:? Had seven and Raffi even spent any time together in the show before they're locking fingers?
Yup they planned out a basic outline for 3 years i think
I am only pointing out to him what I have heard from others.I like it when you post about why you dislike it. That's interesting to me, to hear people's opinions. And yours are very different to mine, so it's a good perspective to hear.
Speak for yourself. Have faith in your own taste. Don't try to justify yourself with "other people feel the same".