Chaos2Frozen

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I can't say I'm impressed. Monster Hunter was a big hit but Resident Evil and Devil May Cry should be doing better numbers. Its expensive to make those kind of games these days and Capcom only has a few IP left that can sell big numbers. They need to release more new games.

Not every game needs to sell millions to be considered a success.

The idea that RE2 and DMC5 are somehow super expensive don't seem to be supported by any official word either
 

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hopefully they show AA some more love too. a collection of 4-5-6 needs to happen for switch/ps4/xbo/steam, and then release 7 as a multiplatform title as well.
 

Shadoken

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Not every game needs to sell millions to be considered a success.

The idea that RE2 and DMC5 are somehow super expensive don't seem to be supported by any official word either

People on Era will forever try to downplay this stuff until Capcom makes games on Switch. It doesn't matter if Capcom says they hit record profits. It doesn't matter if Capcom says both games exceeded expectations. Heck Capcom literally said "We broke even on RE7" during their initial shipment( And that was a game that ran on a brand new engine and was built for VR ). People overestimate how much a game needs to sell because other AAA publishers spend like a bajillion dollars on marketing and budget.
 

Spinx

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RE2 at "only" 4 million.
It's time. The return of action co-op bonanza.

It's amazing how the World gamble paid off so well
 

Chaos2Frozen

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People on Era will forever try to downplay this stuff until Capcom makes games on Switch. It doesn't matter if Capcom says they hit record profits. It doesn't matter if Capcom says both games exceeded expectations. Heck Capcom literally said "We broke even on RE7" during their initial shipment( And that was a game that ran on a brand new engine and was built for VR ). People overestimate how much a game needs to sell because other AAA publishers spend like a bajillion dollars on marketing and budget.

Plus if anything, every time we've heard of the RE engine they say it makes development easier and cheaper
 

Blade24070

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I can't believe MH World is that much of a monster, who would have thought considering the series was basically a japan only success story for its entire career until World.
 

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Can Monster Hunter World be played offline? I'm thinking of picking up the expansion in September. I'm moving and will be without internet for awhile and was wondering.
 

NediarPT88

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Who is this guy? Hopefully he's right about DMC5 because that would mean they shipped a good amount of copies in these last 3 months.

We'll have official info in just a week from Capcom Q1 earnings release anyway (and also whenever they decide to update their platinum page).

As of march 31, RE2 was at 4.2M and DMC5 at 2.1M.
 

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Can Monster Hunter World be played offline? I'm thinking of picking up the expansion in September. I'm moving and will be without internet for awhile and was wondering.
Monster Hunter World can totally be played offline. Monster health scales between single and multiplayer so nothing is unbalanced.

I would advise waiting to buy the expansion until you defeat the final boss, since the content is only playable after completing the base game's story.
 

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RE2 is so great, it deserves more sold copies. My current game of the year. Very cool to see Capcom turning around the ship, guess they are no longer Crapcom.
 

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I opened this thread thinking that Capcom released a PR for both of those games but it's a random guy with no source ? Why is this thread not locked ?
 

Acquila

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Can Monster Hunter World be played offline? I'm thinking of picking up the expansion in September. I'm moving and will be without internet for awhile and was wondering.

You can play everything online, but there's probably two event quests that are absurdly difficult to solo.

Monster Hunter World can totally be played offline. Monster health scales between single and multiplayer so nothing is unbalanced.

Multiplayer has x2.2 HP scaling regardless of player count, so it's actually a bit unbalanced that way. If your teammate drops, or if you get disconnected, the quest doesn't re-scale. Some quick search mentions that flinch/cut scaling gets 8x scale in multi.

I think they're fixing this with the expansion's release to scale with different player counts on the go.
 

Son of Sparda

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Both games deserve to sell way more. Still great to hear that they are doing well.
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Wise

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Honestly thought devil may cry 5 would have sold a lot better

Still good for the franchise though
 

Brhoom

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Resident Evil 2 complete edition needs to happen asap.

Online DLC (Raid Mode)
New story DLC
Resident Evil 3 Remake Demo
 

Samanyolu

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I will buy DMCV as soon as I'm back from vacation, so that's another +1. I hope they make a new Dragon's Dogma too. I really liked the game, despite it being hated on on the internet..
 

Shadoken

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You mean safe franchises that always sold well?

Yea remember that ultra safe franchise called DMC its just been 10 years since the last one and they already made another ?

Or how about that no-risk, guaranteed to break the charts title called Monster hunter. I remember playing that on my PS3/360 all the time what a safe choice.

And then there is RE the franchise they always keep milking. I wish someday they would try something different like return to its horror roots or implement new technology like VR.

But nah all we get are "safe" "no-risk" mainstream games that are guaranteed to sell.
 

Chaos2Frozen

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Giving a big budget to MH was not safe at all.
Making a DMC game in 2019 while retaning the classic formula when the vast majority of sp games are open world was not safe at all
Going FP with RE7 was not safe as all.

RE2 was safe tho

Old school survival horror game design with a budget in 2019?
 

Seiez

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I kinda don't really get what we are celebrating.

RE2 sold like every other serious RE titel and dmc5 sold in the realm of dmc4. It is nice that the games didn't underperform but i wouldn't go so far to call it amazing. Capcom killed dmc for similiar sales performance. And dmc4 released under worse conditions with the ps3 and xbox 360.It certainly isn't a MH success story.

And i don't really believe the whole RE engine talk. They couldn't even include a certain character in dmc5 because making her model would have been too cost intensive.(and yes i'm still salty about it...just like the whole story part of dmc5).

I really hope evo will do wonders for sf5...it is my most played game this gen and got done dirty by capcom.
 
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Old school survival horror game design with a budget in 2019?

Third person remake of RE2 is way more safer than fixed camera RE2 remake, if you compare RE2 to MH bigger budget and DMC in 2019, the former is "safer".

RE2 had good production value, it's by far one of the well known and praised PS1 games and it's in third person.

I kinda don't really get what we are celebrating.

RE2 sold like every other serious RE titel and dmc5 sold in the realm of dmc4. It is nice that the games didn't underperform but i wouldn't go so far to call it amazing. Capcom killed dmc for similiar sales performance. And dmc4 released under worse conditions with the ps3 and xbox 360.It certainly isn't a MH success story.

That's not true.
DMC 5 sold over 2 million copies in 2 weeks, it took DMC 4 a whole month to sell 2 million copies and RE2 is also outpacing RE7 sales by a good margin.
DmC costed way more than DMC 4 and shipped 1 million copies in one month and Capcom had to lower expectations.
 
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Seiez

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For one DmC was a rather undesirable product for the core audience at that time (the 2.xx people that bought dmc4).

Dmc5 selling faster is nice but i wouldn't say that it outsold dmc4 to such a degree that i would call it impressive. (again... Compare the install base for ps3/Xbox 360 to ps4/xbone/pc). It's cool that capcom has a much more reasonable expectation this time around, that's for sure. If both games land in a range of let's say 500k to 1m to each other than i wouldn't celebrate it as a great success story or a clear over performer.

It is good that capcom is satisfied with the performance (that's more important than anything) but I personally, as a fan of the series, would be a little disappointed that a serious effort like dmc5 isn't better performing.

RE7 was a rather slow starter for the franchise... I guess you could say for obvious reasons.
 

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Capcom (besides their fighting games) truly feels awesome to me again after a few years of questionable games. I'm so hyped for the monster Hunter expansion!!!!
 
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There is nothing more noble on this forum than fanboying for a corporate entity just because they produced something you liked.

That said, I am really happy with the direction RE has moved in. While I like RE2 as much as everyone else, it was the uniqueness of 7 that I truly loved and playing it in VR was on another level entirely that no RE game before it or since has managed to touch. DMCV was also an amazing game and I love how they incorporated so much of the series history in to it. That said, the story felt lacking, on par with an episode of Power Rangers and I came into hoping for something a bit more. Mega Man 11 doesn't get enough love. People used to make threads asking for MM games all the time, and then that MN9 kickstarter came out everyone lost their shit. Capcom follows up with a stellar MM game and all I hear are crickets, don't ask why the series is dormant again. It's not Capcom's fault that you all forgot about it and ignored it, that's on your heads. The future is bright for good Capcom games.
 

LakLak

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Port God Hand and Viewtiful Joe to modern systems you cowards

So they can flop hard and make people understand those were indeed meh games and not some kind of hidden/misunderstood gems ? No, those games should stay where they are : in the wonderland of rose tinted glasses.

Super happy for DMCV. RE2 should sell much more. Still really weird to me that Monster Hunter World is their biggest seller, where did that come from.

Here's where it come from : Many people expected the game to fail soooooooo hard for petty reasons and console-warring because the franchise went multi-platform. God slapped them hard in the mouth and made the game a worldwide success even greater than the weirdest expectations, also making it Capcom most successful title, just to spite the people who were calling them "stupid" for not focusing on handhelds and taking risks.

The game is very, very good too.
 

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So they can flop hard and make people understand those were indeed meh games and not some kind of hidden/misunderstood gems ? No, those games should stay where they are : in the wonderland of rose tinted glasses.



Here's where it come from : Many people expected the game to fail soooooooo hard for petty reasons and console-warring because the franchise went multi-platform. God slapped them hard in the mouth and made the game a worldwide success even greater than the weirdest expectations, also making it Capcom most successful title, just to spite the people who were calling them "stupid" for not focusing on handhelds and taking risks.

The game is very, very good too.

This Is QUITE the post.
 

BadWolf

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Anyone who is downplaying DMCV's sales must not know how much character action games usually sell.

It's pretty much the best selling series in the genre.

The only game that can compete in sales is Nier:A but that's an ARPG.
 
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LakLak

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Anyone who is downplaying DMCV's sales must not know how much character action games usually sell.

It's pretty much the best selling series in the genre.

Yes, people should look at Bayonetta sales number and compare them with the DMC serie, just to get some perspective of what the term "bomba" actually means. I wouldn't be surprised if DMCV alone has sold better than every Bayonetta games ever released, COMBINED.
 

shadowman16

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I gotta say I've been really enjoying their output later. DMC5 and RE2 were absolutely fantastic, though I also have to mention how much I loved MM11 - its not sold millions (it should reach 1 mill sales sooner rather than later though) but it was a solid effort that had some awesome level design and boss fights. Sure, the Wily Stages outside of the first two were short like Wily Fortress in MM1 - but the main stages are 3 times longer than any other game in the series, so I was satisfied. Plus hard mode, challenge mode and a bunch of weapons + gear system that actually made speed running fun for me.
MHW is also something super special, its gotten me into the wider series in general, and revisiting the game ahead of the DLC launching has reminded me why I love it so much (already put another 20 hours of time into it in the past week alone).

Its just a pity Capcom went in a bizarre way with SFV after the awesome AE and season 3 reveal (which was super hype and G, Cody and Sagat were awesome characters/reveals). Here's hoping Evo brings something... anything to the table. If Capcom can keep up the momentum and release a more complete SF6 next gen alongside stuff like the next MH, RE8 etc. I'll continue to be very happy indeed. Then again, I also loved Infinite aside from the presentation side of things (sound/graphics especially), just a pity it couldn't have been launching later this year, a bigger roster not hampered by corporate meddling would have been even better.
 

Dahbomb

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Where the damn DMC5 Special Edition at you cowards!!??

In any case if this is true DMC5 is on track to be best selling DMC game of all time.
 

Caiops

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This is just speculation.

We have to wait until Capcom update the Platinum Page, i bet that RE2 is at least 4.5M sold