You don't understand that S and X are the variants. You're missing the name of the system. As in "360" or "One" or "Series"
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So my wife bought me Xbox One S instead of Series S :(
- Thread starter Fezan
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You don't understand that S and X are the variants. You're missing the name of the system. As in "360" or "One" or "Series"
It's very confusing. As many retailers around here omit next gen consoles from search results because they're out of stock (like Media Markt or Libro, or even Amazon) if you search for Series S the first result is a Xbox One S, in stock. (A few weeks ago I was browsing for a Series S too, that's how I know).
This is gonna happen a bunch over the holidays.
This is gonna happen a bunch over the holidays.
Complete dumbasses, didn't they learn from Wii WiiU dumb naming convention.
Personally not sure why they couldn't branch out from the S and X brandings to help differentiate the consoles.
You sure you weren't typing through the tears?
I jest, bless your wife for gifting you a present. It's the thought that ultimately counts.
But Era said this could never happen. :)
Seen plenty of people at work not into games as much think the same thing. They really should have thought that name a little better.
For what it's worth, stores in my town still have One S consoles in stock .
Seen plenty of people at work not into games as much think the same thing. They really should have thought that name a little better.
For what it's worth, stores in my town still have One S consoles in stock .
I think the XS and XR is not a good example since Apple switch to 11, 11 pro, 11 pro max the year after.
IMO, MS should of just name it
Xbox 6S
Xbox 6X
and make up some PR speak to stretch it like
1) Xbox
2) Xbox 360
3) Xbox one
4) Xbox one S
5) Xbox one X
Now, we are jumping into next gen with Xbox 6S and Xbox 6X blah blah blah
IMO, MS should of just name it
Xbox 6S
Xbox 6X
and make up some PR speak to stretch it like
1) Xbox
2) Xbox 360
3) Xbox one
4) Xbox one S
5) Xbox one X
Now, we are jumping into next gen with Xbox 6S and Xbox 6X blah blah blah
I'm guessing you've never sold electronics in a retail environment. Things that are glaringly obvious to us are indecipherable to normies.
also the X stood for 10 and I know many people who referred to it that way
For real unless you are knee deep in this shit it's confusing as fuck
I do understand, but I'm saying the name of the system should just be "Xbox", especially as they lean more into things like Game Pass and Xcloud (potentially making the innards less important. We've already heard hints of an "Xbox Stick", for example. I think they should focus more on Xbox as an ecosystem (which is clearly the direction they're headed), and less Xbox as... systems.
With the OG Xbox One being discontinued for the One S and One X and then the release of the Series S and Series X, they've clearly set that standard already. I don't think we really need a "series" title, Xbox works fine.
I think Xbox X, Xbox S, and Xbox Stick is less confusing than new model names every couple years, especially if those names don't make a whole lot of sense chronologically speaking.
TBH it always takes me a minute to figure out which console someone is talking about whenever either comes up. The only time I immediately know is when someone calls it the "Series X/S"
Otherwise, X1X, XSX, XSS, X1S all look very similar at first glance.
Otherwise, X1X, XSX, XSS, X1S all look very similar at first glance.
I could see uninformed people not finding out for a long time that they have a last gen console.
Yeah. It's terrible. Sony has the best system with PS1/2/3/4/5 . I love it. Everybody loves it. Why complicate things?
Nintendo is almost as guilty as Microsoft.
I don't think you've been able to buy a One X new for some time, one OG obvs even longer.
Very bad naming by MS. I get "Xbox One X/S" and "Series X/S" mixed up when not closely paying attention to things like podcast discussions. I can only imagine how confusing it is to someone who is just looking to buy a new console as a gift for someone else.
I expect a lot of this over Xmas this year from people not exactly understanding the difference. I also noticed something randomly that was pretty fucked up on ebay in the UK the other day, so the awful movie tie in game 'the amazing spider-man 2" on xbox one was always considered a bad game by most, prices dropped like mad due to it's known issues and cash grab movie tie in state, but I noticed that used copies on eBay UK are now selling for £40-80 on xbox one.....at first I thought it was just people making a mistake for one copy assuming it was miles that just released but for xbox due to not knowing much about games and buying gifts at Xmas time, but I looked at the recently sold and there are a lot of used copies sold recently for those insane prices. I even decided to check CEX website to see what they sold it at as I remember it being cheap as hell years ago and they even got in on the game once they saw the profit they could make I guess, copies on there were £40 used.......so I have to assume that a lot of kids are gonna be disappointed on Xmas morning to find that they got that and not miles, unless I totally didn't know somehow the game was worth a bunch now?
Agree, they just could've gone for Xbox 5 or even, as you mentioned, Xbox 6.
Problem solved.
Yup pretty much my case and I really like it because I get other useful stuff I like or might enjoy.
It's not all socks and clothing.
Sony's naming scheme only works for Sony. It wouldn't work for Nintendo because they have too many different product lines. They have their console one, then they had the Gameboy. The DS was technically suppose to be an experiment, which was why it didn't take the GB name, and then it blew up so it became the future. But calling their systems the Famicom 2, 3, 4, 5, etc..would be super boring. Plus NOA changing the name to Nintendo screwed that up
Not to mention PSP -> Vita doesn't follow sequential numbers
They missed that boat now
They had the perfect opportunity
Xbox (1)
Xbox 360 (2)
Xbox One (3)
Xbox One X (4)
Xbox 5
"While the Xbox One X was part of the Xbox One family of consoles, internally we always saw it as the 4th Xbox. It helped us lay the foundation for our vision for backward compatibility. It had an almost completely different internal architecture to the Xbox One. So with that, we bring you, Xbox 5"
Or some shit like that.
I love how 90% of Era think they are marketing geniuses
never change
Nah the point was it's about as confusing many other popular product lines, not that no human on earth could conceptually ever mix things up. As retail workers can attest, grandmas manage to confuse PS2 / PS3 / PS4 / PS5. Grandmas manage to confuse Playstation and Xbox.
And because every time someone said it's name, they were inadvertently saying, "Xbox won". Duh.
Exact same thing happens a week ago to my sister-in-law. Bought my nephews an Xbox one S and wanted a series s or x. Has to break the news but thankfully she scored a series x from wal mart online today. Microsoft needs to do a better job with naming.
Comparisons like this is why people were reacting so strongly to people saying "it's confusing". Yes it's confusing, but when you say "didn't they learn from wiiu?" you're implicitly saying basically "the naming being confusing could kill the product" which is a major overreaction and a misdiagnosis of what happened to that console.
I never claimed to be.
I was just coming up with a way they could potentially explain away Xbox 5. Unless you think Xbox 5 is more confusing than Series S/X?
I don't think anyone can say is not confusing with a straight face tbh
that was really awesome and thoughtful of your wife!
i will never understand why Microsoft went with this naming convention. i mean, i consider myself to be a pretty informed gamer, and even i mix them up sometimes when talking to them. Like, Xbox to Xbox 360? Easy peasy. you know that the 360 was the next in line after the OG Xbox.
then we got into Xbox ONE, and while that could be confusing, considering how far removed we are from the OG Xbox, and it's not like you can buy them in stores anymore, it's fine. but then they went with Xbox ONE S and Xbox ONE X, and I honestly don't know the difference between those two. And then still, they went with Xbox Series X, and Xbox Series S, which would be fine if they hadn't already used the X/S naming convention for the ONE line.
As generic as I think PlayStation 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 are, there is literally no room for confusion in terms of parsing that the higher number means the newer machine. Even PlayStation 4 Pro implies that there's something different about it in relation to PlayStation 4.
I'm pretty sure a lot of well meaning folks are going to have this happen to them going into the holidays, thinking they're getting the newest machine for their loved ones. Because demand for the machines are so high, I imagine that people hunting for one just glance at the name, see it's in stock, then rush to check out before it's snapped up, not realizing that they've selected the wrong console. It's an honest and easy mistake to make with these naming conventions.
i will never understand why Microsoft went with this naming convention. i mean, i consider myself to be a pretty informed gamer, and even i mix them up sometimes when talking to them. Like, Xbox to Xbox 360? Easy peasy. you know that the 360 was the next in line after the OG Xbox.
then we got into Xbox ONE, and while that could be confusing, considering how far removed we are from the OG Xbox, and it's not like you can buy them in stores anymore, it's fine. but then they went with Xbox ONE S and Xbox ONE X, and I honestly don't know the difference between those two. And then still, they went with Xbox Series X, and Xbox Series S, which would be fine if they hadn't already used the X/S naming convention for the ONE line.
As generic as I think PlayStation 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 are, there is literally no room for confusion in terms of parsing that the higher number means the newer machine. Even PlayStation 4 Pro implies that there's something different about it in relation to PlayStation 4.
I'm pretty sure a lot of well meaning folks are going to have this happen to them going into the holidays, thinking they're getting the newest machine for their loved ones. Because demand for the machines are so high, I imagine that people hunting for one just glance at the name, see it's in stock, then rush to check out before it's snapped up, not realizing that they've selected the wrong console. It's an honest and easy mistake to make with these naming conventions.
I read a lot about video games and I couldn't name the individual SKUs, it's hilarious. 3DS levels of BS.
People understand cellphone naming conventions. I don't think Xbox consoles are any more confusing than that.
Did anybody say otherwise? We all know in general people will have no issues, but some cases like this were also expected. I don't think anybody was saying Xbox would be doomed because of their naming convention lol, it's funny that people always bring this up as some kind of counter argument when, from what I recall, no one is arguing that.
Uhhh. When we were kids one of us wanted a Gameboy and the other wanted a PlayStation. My Grandmother, who was a god damn saint, called GameStop asking for "PlayBoy" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They don't, they go to their carrier and they buy "the new one." Most people I dealt with at my retail tech job couldn't tell you the model of phone they had in their own pocket.
If you don't know the difference between Xbox One S and Xbox One X you are not well informed.