They just announced a bunch?
The problem is nobody can agree on what a proper remaster looks like. Like seven totally mutually exclusive adamant demands.
The first three SaGa games were released on the Gameboy and titled SaGa 1, 2, and 3 in Japan, but were renamed Final Fantasy Legend 1, 2, and 3 in the West. These games recently recieved a collection.Can people tell me what games are in this series please or like it, a lot of names flying about would love to try them
SF2 was such a departure from the first game that I didn't even give it a chance. I'd like to right that wrong.Nice, looking forward to revisiting SaGa Frontier 2.
And getting further this time lol.
For my favorite console too: phoneThey just announced a bunch?
The problem is nobody can agree on what a proper remaster looks like. Like seven totally mutually exclusive adamant demands.
Because it didnt sell 10 million copies on DS lol.Is there some legal, technical reason they don't do a simple port of chrono
To be fair, Chrono Trigger was very hard to make. The development wasn't smooth sailing, with the project getting completely rebooted at least once, and the release getting delayed a bunch of times. They even had to cancel pre-planning of FFVII to divert more staff into CT to save the project. And then when the game is finally released you have to share profit with Armor Project and Bird Studio.
If it was an expensive project this is even more reason to port it to every single possible console, to recoup their investment. The hard work is mostly done, they just have to put an emulator and rom on the switch.
Regarding Xenogears, Chrono, etc.
They're clearly playing the long game. They know the thirst is real, and why not maximize sales by starting with lesser known franchises first?
How many of us would have ignored SaGa Frontier Remastered if Xenogears and Chrono Cross came out first? You might think, well, it's not known to be so great, so I'll skip it.
If SaGa launches first, you might think well I need something to fill that JRPG-sized hole in my heart so it'll do for now.
I bought SaGa, played through five of the stories. It's charming, but boy howdy does it have some issues. That said, I'll keep buying these in part to let SQEX know that there's an audience for these games and that I want more.
Because it didnt sell 10 million copies on DS lol.
It wasnt that number but I remember some news that one dev at Square was slightly mad that people want CT but then said "so why you didnt buy it on Ds?"
You are overestimating how much demand there is for ROM dump versions of old games.
When are we going to start asking the important, hard hitting questions? For example...You are overestimating how much demand there is for ROM dump versions of old games.
Realistically, there is just a bottleneck in terms of how many resources SE is willing or able to throw at remakes or remasters. With another SaGa on the way, there are 11 announced, and there's like 2 or 3 more in development that haven't been announced. I'd put money on some bigger CT project coming, but... what is it, exactly? Something in the new pixel art engine made for the FF series? A full 3D remake? An HD-2D remake? CC is a mess due to them losing the source code, so it really should get fully repainted backgrounds like LoM get.
Nobody would have just ignored SFR if other stuff had come out first. SFR is something like Square Enix's 53rd remake/remaster available on at least one modern platform.
For what it is worth, Chrono Trigger has had something like 7, 8, or 9 releases by now, and Square Enix knows how much money to expect from doing the 10th <$10 ROM dump (not a lot).
Wasn't a ROM dump of 3 mario games one of the best selling games of last year?
Any suggestion on where to start or which ones are worth playing? Like maybe an image macro or series summary or something?
I'm glad to see someone with some taste here.When are we going to start asking the important, hard hitting questions? For example...
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Where is Front Mission though?
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There's not a whole lot of concensus on which are best. Remasters of RS2/3, SF1, and SSG are all going to get support. SSG is the only "modern" one (it is SaGa 14, while the others are SaGa 5/6/7)
When are we going to start asking the important, hard hitting questions? For example...
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Where is Front Mission though?
Do you think that is at all relevant here? Square's recent ROM dump collections didn't do even remotely as well. Like... 1-3% of the Mario collections, by my guess. Using one of the most popular IPs of all time as a reflection of how well ROM dumps can do is just ill-conceived.
Being limited edition for an anniversary seems to drive up sales a lot, at least? I think only Super Mario 3D and Dragon Quest Wii have been super successful?
Why would anyone even want a ROM dump version of Chrono Trigger. The Steam version is now amazing with all its updates. They should just be porting the Steam version!
Anyway I'm happy that Saga remasters are successful. Just Saga Frontier 2, Romancing Saga Minstrel's Song and Unlimited Saga to go, right?
And since it's been so long all I remember anymore is that I stopped playing at some point back when it came out.SF2 was such a departure from the first game that I didn't even give it a chance. I'd like to right that wrong.
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I believe Akitoshi Kawazu is the longest-tenured employee at Square Enix.Why do SaGa games get good remasters but Square's other series don't? Is Square run by fools?
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That would be Kazuhiko Aoki.I believe Akitoshi Kawazu is the longest-tenured employee at Square Enix.
They can still sell 1-3% of what the mario collection sold and still be profitable because they are rom dumps. They cost almost nothing to produce.
I do think the Mario Collection shows that there is demand for these kind of games now that they aren't as widely available as they used to be. I mean, I know it's mario but it sold WILDLY beyond anyone's expectations. I don't think it would have sold that well during, say, the Wii generation when Mario 64 was on the VC and the other two games you could play the Disks. I think the same goes for FF and Chrono Trigger, there is a drought of releases for these games, and that drives demand up.
I hope the devs will do something to make this battle more palatable. At least I hope. I got stuck there and never was able to finish.I hope the newcomers are ready for the Battle of South Moundtop.
I recommend you wear wrist straps on your controllers or fasten something to your Switch.
Yeah, I think they intentionally designed the battle so that the common sense moves would put you one or two turns behind where you need to be, if you are lucky, to holdout the required number of turns. I have seen people claim you can defeat the steel soldier units with ranged attacks, but I was never able to pull it off.I hope the devs will do something to make this battle more palatable. At least I hope. I got stuck there and never was able to finish.
At least this time I'll be aware of it, and we can all help each other on how to pass this brick wall of a battle
This whole SaGa renaissance thing has been amazing, but I guess that will be the case anytime one of your favorite series gets the love it deserves.
There really needs to be a some kind of disclaimer about Kawazu being the driving force behind of all these remakes/remasters in threads like this. Inevitably these threads always turn into people complaining that their favorite games,or games they deem more worthy, are not getting the same treatment and people having to explain it is due to Kawazu's influence for the umpteenth time.
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If you're asking for Romancing SaGa 1 (SaGa 4), that's probably super complicated. Kawazu highlighted how weird the situation is, because there's 4 different ways it could go.
1) Remaster of 2D version.
2) Remake/overhaul of the 2D version (may be possible in the new Pixel Remaster engine?)
3) Port of Minstrel Song
4) Extensive HD overhaul of Minstrel Song.
The quote was something like that and rather recent, so it sounded like if it is happening, it wouldn't be particularly far right now.
I've only played Scarlett Grace and it was very different from any other JRPG I've ever played.What's the selling point or differentiation of SaGa games compare to other jrpg?
I am kinda interested but don't wanna spoil myself through videoes.
What's the selling point or differentiation of SaGa games compare to other jrpg?
I am kinda interested but don't wanna spoil myself through videoes.
For me it is the variety and uniqueness of each entry. Some are completely non - linear, others are far more linear but present the story in novel ways and then you have the more experimental entries inspired by board games. Many of the games also feature systems that feel really rewarding once you learn and master them.What's the selling point or differentiation of SaGa games compare to other jrpg?
I am kinda interested but don't wanna spoil myself through videoes.
Less focus on narrative and more focus on gameplay. The gameplay tends more towards the abstract systems, lack of explaining mechanics and more expecting players to feel their ways out. Choices and consequences of actions are important, gating or allowing you into content depending on what you do. People frequently mention them as JRPGs by way of WRPGs, but honestly that only makes sense after playing and getting a feel for them.What's the selling point or differentiation of SaGa games compare to other jrpg?
I am kinda interested but don't wanna spoil myself through videoes.
The issue is that the game is too linear and doesn't really give you time to prepare or get into the mindset of the battle mechanics. So I guess it's just going to be a community thing where we prep each other for it. Other SaGa games blindside you but at least it's with battle mechanics you've been experimenting with the entire game and you have some freedom to build your party.I'll be waiting for Saga Frontier 2 and Unlimited Saga.
And please, do not change Battle of South Moundtop. It's the best and only well designed war scenario in the game. It also helps that it's clearly inspired by the Battle of Waterloo, for history buffs out there.
No, I'm serious. It's brilliant and makes use of all the mechanics of the mode. The games just doesn't teach the players the intricacies of the war scenario rules, as per SaGa tradition. If anything the other war scenarios need to be made more interesting and challenging.
SaGa 2 DS and SaGa 3 DS are functionally their own wholly distinct games, with a design evolution and lineage that is clearly traced from Minstrel Song to LR to SaGa 2 to SaGa 3 to Scarlet Grace.
Minstrel Song and RS1 (Wonderswan version?) are also distinct games, IMO.
I literally dropped Kingdom Hearts the second I head that III wouldn't have local dub.Imagine coming into this thread and having to read that the KH remastered were good and most people liked them.
Only someone who hasn't lost his version of the dub can write something like that. KH lost most of its charm by removing local dubs. FF X is also a pretty downgrade...
SE is really bad at going the extra mile.