This needs going in the OP, the thread is full of people acting like this is being released around the world
Theres no reason why this experiment means a proper version isn't in development as well
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Resident Evil 7 Cloud Version Announced for Switch (in Japan only)
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Theres no reason why this experiment means a proper version isn't in development as well
I get how game streaming works. it's been done before. you're bringing up stuff like "cloud service stations" which is a foreign concept to me. downloading a client, switch-side, is what people were expecting. this is what PSO2 does (and I think DQX on mobile/3DS).
still don't understand the relevancy of this cloud service station thing when the website just say download the tiny re7 cloud app, get a good internet, and rent it to play after 15 min trial. of course being not in japan the connection or whatever latency thing will be bad.
I think they are just testing the waters, what they earned from Monster Hunter and other titles might be invested on these services that, as I said, will likely become the new hot thing with PS5 / Xbox 2.
This won't come in US and EU soon as it would be extremely expensive to handle these kind of services worldwide, unless there is some sort of hidden partnershp, like with Nvidia.
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This is the most embarrassing thread I have read on Era, and I say that as a Switch owner.
Maybe you should check the RE7C site, http://www.capcom.co.jp/bh7cloud/
Step1, check the internet environment
Step2, Download the RE7C from the eShop
Step3, Play the BIOHAZARD 7 resident evil cloud version from the home menu
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You mean the Japanese sun right? There's a difference between constructive criticism and disingenuous hot takes with a sprinkle of ignorance and armchair analysis, this thread was filled with the latter. Just look at the mod post.
I should have specified, I meant the 3DS and iOS/Android versions. Was talking about cloud streaming games in general, not just the Switch.
How on Earth did you miss this thread? https://www.resetera.com/threads/eu...ing-spin-off-also-heard-by-egs-sources.42395/
Same. $20 for only 6 months. That just rubs me the wrong way.
Okay, so I might have the name for it wrong. I had decided to ask more my partner in my projects (she is originally from the Philippines, moved to Japan with her husband near a decade ago) about this since they live in Japan and have for a number of years, brought this up with them and the site.
http://www.capcom.co.jp/bh7cloud/
So the site talks more about this in detail. Essentially the key points are:
-They re using cloud gaming to stream beautiful graphics to the Switch that otherwise wouldn't be possible.
-Will include all RE7 content, such as Not a Hero, End of Zoe, Banned Footage, etc.
-There is Switch comparability as it can use Switch joy-cons and other features for Switch.
And now here's the important part:
-You download a special app connected to these cloud stations which allow you to stream the game without downloading the game itself. The game is continually sent from a Cloud server to your Switch via an internet connection, but to play you need a stable environment. Now here's the kicker to this, the internet specifics they recommend work like this:
But there's also a range from the service needed. The game downloads 45 MB to your Switch, probably for save files and application stuff to validate streaming the video. The service is provided by ユビタスのクラウドサ, aka ubitus cloud service.
Now ubitus is a worldwide clinic for cloud gaming that have a relationship with Capcom, you can find there page here: http://www.ubitus.net/en/ugamecloud.html
You'll notice almost all their featured games are Capcom games, the Devil May Cry, Dead Rising, Lost Planet, Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter games, etc., games are all there. The idea behind them is that they started a business to create a broader 'arcade', Capcom has worked with them multiple times and has most of their games on this service already. So why is it only just now that most people are hearing about this?
Because it's Japanese exclusive, you need to be within range of one of their stations in order to stream the game in most cases. Maybe RE7 will be an exception, since it is currently the only way to play RE7 on Switch and they're providing special promotion for it, but these past examples from Capcom have been kept mostly exclusive to being close to a center of theirs, you need the app to play it, be connected, and they have a 'range gap' as for the area the service is provided in most often. Japan will be covered mostly and it's only being released there, but unless they're doing something different than Capcom have done in the past with the service I don't think it'll be even available outside of Japan as you won't be able to get the app as you won't be close enough to a station.
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I can see why this blew up and lots of people are anxious, because this is is the future really, and everybody can intuitively feel it. As 5G gets rolled out, consoles or handhelds are more about the nicest form factor than anything else. It's more lucrative to be able to stream your games to all devices than having to port them, and it obviates buy in of expensive peripherals. I didn't expect it to happen so soon, but I'm actually not super against it either. €20 is better than €60, and I prefer to watch movies on Netflix even if I own the DVD myself too. It would be nice if there was still an option to buy your games physically, but that would mean higher cost games, higher cost consoles, and most likely consoles that quickly go out of date to what gets streamed. Doubt it would be a big market.
I get that the Switch probably couldn't handle the game natively, but cloud streaming something like this (Especially on hardware with wifi/online capabilities as lacking as the Switch's) sounds like it'd make for a terrible experience.
Basically like how GeForce now streaming gaming works on my Nvidia shield then, similar chips too I think.
I can tell you I trialled the GeForce streaming from their servers on a 150mb connection, it was shit, the amount of times the servers went down was infuriating, even after swapping servers so I cancelled it. It worked for a bit great then the amount of times the game hung was annoying, think when youd watch a film and it would buffer, only this was a immersive gaming sesh.
Also similar to psnow if you used that.
Meh for me, but nice for some people, I think this is how their Retro games will work too folks.
Thee are some Nvidia Lightspeed games that they allow you to download to the sheild console and seeing as the specs ar similar tonthe Switch these downloadable ones imo should come out on the Switch, these are
Half Life 2, And episods 1&2, Doom 3 bfg edition, Portal, Resident Evil 5, Metal Gear Rising, Tomb Raider 2013, super meatboy.
I can tell you I trialled the GeForce streaming from their servers on a 150mb connection, it was shit, the amount of times the servers went down was infuriating, even after swapping servers so I cancelled it. It worked for a bit great then the amount of times the game hung was annoying, think when youd watch a film and it would buffer, only this was a immersive gaming sesh.
Also similar to psnow if you used that.
Meh for me, but nice for some people, I think this is how their Retro games will work too folks.
Thee are some Nvidia Lightspeed games that they allow you to download to the sheild console and seeing as the specs ar similar tonthe Switch these downloadable ones imo should come out on the Switch, these are
Half Life 2, And episods 1&2, Doom 3 bfg edition, Portal, Resident Evil 5, Metal Gear Rising, Tomb Raider 2013, super meatboy.
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Assuming you're referring to the NES games via the online service, they're already confirmed to be playable offline.
This sounds like the usual IP range block used for games that is streamed to prevent bottlenecks and to guarantee good performance within a certain targetted area.
Akatsuki no Kiseki for PS4 and PSV are IP-locked for example and are streamed from a server. Then there are PS NOW that tests your latency and only lets you play it if it's below a certain value.
Anyone believing this and Phantasy Star Online 2 Cloud versions being remotely playable outside Japan, where the servers are, should remember that super fast internet is not the deciding factor here, it's latency.
Well thats a relief then, maybe the Wii, and Gamecube games then, if they do those and it wouldn't be to far a stetch considring the Nvidia Shield in china already has Wii games
It's not so much about defending this decision as accepting that this is what happens when you make a console considerably weaker than the competition.
That said, I have no idea how difficult it would be to port RE7 to the Switch because it is visually impressive on the consoles and PC.
I'm assuming it would be quite a bit of work.
I think the Switch could handle the game natively, but it would require a developer with the will and drive to do so.
Capcom? LOL
Movies and TV shows aren't affected by input lag though. I don't really see how games can be compared, this could render entire genres of games unplayable.
While the idea is......interesting, this "service" just doesn't seem to fit what I want for my switch. I would have prefered a DOOM/Skyrim/L.A. Noire type of port, rather than a stream.
Where is this narrative that ResetEra, the site that changed its logo to that plug dude and had a 200+ page thread for a nothingburger of a Direct mere weeks ago and constant "the Nintendo Switch cured my gaming ennui and cancer" threads, is anti-Switch?
Jesus. Maybe people actually think there are hardware limitations to porting a AAA game from more powerful consoles to a portable system?
Edit: sorry for not explicitly addressing the topic in this post. It was mostly aimed at the side discussion about Switch sentiment on this forum from the previous page.
Jesus. Maybe people actually think there are hardware limitations to porting a AAA game from more powerful consoles to a portable system?
Edit: sorry for not explicitly addressing the topic in this post. It was mostly aimed at the side discussion about Switch sentiment on this forum from the previous page.
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Wrong thread?
This thread is about Resident Evil VII Cloud version (Japan only).
I just finished catching up with the thread. My comment mostly refers to the shitshow on the last few pages.
For what it's worth, I think this is a really cool workaround if porting to the Switch proves difficult or too costly. It all depends on the quality of the streaming service.
For the record, I also believe that PSO2C is not ideal.
Streaming only works in limited scenarios. It is a technology that has been pushed for many years now and has failed to catch on, and with a reason. There's no let's see how this works, we know how it works and is badly, unless you are one of the few people living close to a data center with very high speed internet and low interference sources from your surroundings.
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Threads about Square Enix or Capcom, in GAF and now in ERA, in a nutshell:
I really don't think that is the case. Just thinking of one game from each company- Nier Automata for SE and Monster Hunter World for Capcom- you see that the reception here is overwhelmingly positive and thus disproved this meme that everyone here hates these 2 companies and everything they do.
Interested to see how this cloud version can work.
Any word if this is the base game only, or will it have all the free dlc?
Any word if this is the base game only, or will it have all the free dlc?
More like those two are exceptions and everything else gets a "lol" or a "fuck you," or both.
What's the point of making a cloud based game run on a particular system? If it is being streamed, might as well make it work on every (or most) device out there. Even on Raspberry Pi if you want.
It has all the DLC content IIRC.
I mean whatever then. I obviously disagree with you but I don't know what I can do to convince you otherwise. If this would've been REVII port announced for the Switch simply then I know I for one would have been over the moon and more jolly compared to this service. Context is important.
5G is aiming at 1ms latency and up to 10Gbps, it won't be an issue 5 years from now. (In the west and east asia)
People need to differenciate devs and execs.
Square Enix and Capcom have good games, but they often make - from the user standpoint - baffling commercial decisions.
No I did not, I even actively participated in several and I still conclude the same. Wasn't the game in the top 5 most anticipated games of this year? That would be odd for a site that has a collective hatred of Capcom. There was massive amounts of excitement and joy for that game.
But we're getting off topic here and into... messy territory ultimately.
As long as ultra-low latency isn't a requirement and the bitrate's high enough, streaming can work well. I'm actually surprised this hasn't been tried before on the Switch. You get around the weak hardware, you get around the storage limits and high costs of carts. Hope this works out.
Plus, weren't there some patent four cloud computing related things before the Switch reveal?
Very interesting! Not sure how that fits with the mobile-centric Switch, but it'll be nice to see how this plays out. That being said, mobile broadband in Japan, at least from my very limited understanding, dwarfs what's available in the US in speed, reliability and pricing, so it may not be an issue at all. It also circumvents the issue of storage on cartridges. I wonder how much game data is stored locally, if any?