The difference is that they can lose their jobs in such scenario rather than getting away with a slap on wrist.
ResetEra Ownership Update
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Kinda insulting to the mods, and you'd have to see life soley in terms of dollar dollar bills to come out with that. Seems plenty of them are happy to keep doing what they've been doing going forwards... people shouting on their behalf for a salary yet not seen one post from a mod saying that's what they want in order to continue, so...
The biggest L is surely reserved for every single user here who has had their data sold on to a corporate entity that indends to further monetise them and subject them to more targeted advertising. Especially those who thought this was a site scraping by to cover costs, and in particular those that chose to pay monthly and yearly to block ads a free browser add-on could handily manage.
It's always the middle of the night somewhere. Was posted at the start of the working day in the new owner's country - as they announced the news. Seems reasonable.
But ran... hell the fuck yes, lol. $3.5m in the bag and another mil to come by the end of the year as long as this place doesn't go into meltdown I assume.
It did have multiple sh
Does she involved in fuckery too or what, not following too much of this siteI remember SweetNicole.
I think a lot of people had this notion that ERA was like this massive cooperative, contrasted against GAF and its single owner. That's the promise many bought into during the GAF exodus, even if it was never in the fine print. Chickens have come home to roost.
lmao I keep forgetting that's a thing. That is absolutely the biggest L.
Nice, glad you could work out an arrangement that seems to preserve the site and get some investment. Haven't read the 25+ pages yet so hoping there's no divisive bombshells haha.
Oh shit nice sale.
I'm gonna give the site room to transition and see what changes there are before jumping to conclusions about what the sale could change. I'm too old to switch to another forum. Guess I'll finally get some work done.
Oh shit nice sale.
I'm gonna give the site room to transition and see what changes there are before jumping to conclusions about what the sale could change. I'm too old to switch to another forum. Guess I'll finally get some work done.
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GDPR ensures a right of access to know what data the company holds, how they use it, with whom they share it and how they obtained it in the first place. Legally they cannot refuse this request without a very good reason (i.e. it infringes on the privacy of others). Here is a more comprehensive outline of your rights as a data subject: https://gdpr-info.eu/chapter-3/
It's probably best to contact the site's Data Protection Officer, though if we have one then I can't find a way to identify or contact them. You could always ask and admin about who to speak to about it, though if they are unwilling or unable to provide this information then your next best bet is to file a report with the relevant public body (not sure whether it should be your country or the Swedish Authority for Privacy Protection).
I can only speak for myself but I'd be surprised if I'm the only mod who feels this way. I don't moderate for the sake of the owners past or present, but for the sake of the community.
Paid moderators are usually there to protect the brand, the corporation, or the income. Youtube mods sure aren't there to protect the Youtube *communities*.
I doesn't bother me that people think a paid mod team would do better, or if people are concerned about what happens to this community... because we've been through some real shit in the past, even predating this site and fears based on things that actually happened are hardly irrational. I hope (and for the record believe) that moderators will continue to be volunteers from within the community, and will continue to operate as an independent team.
yea, I never really thought about it much, someone had to be putting a lot of work into this place to keep it running. I assumed they were collecting some ad money and maybe making a ok living off it.
but $4.5 million pay day while there's dozens of volunteers and the only reason this place works and exists is because of the users? hahahaha.
It's speculated that the part owners, that Cerium bought out, were some or all of the original admin list from when the site launched.
It was always a curiosity to me that some of the founding members of era were long time banned members on gaf, it was a bit strange that once the issues emerged on gaf they were among those willing to lead the exodus for a community they weren't really involved with.
It wouldn't surprise me if it was a planned competitor with a different focus and pivoted once the opportunity arose.
Someone got swindled. I'm not gonna clearify exactly who in any more specificity than this, now that bans are flying, but, hint-hint, it's everyone.
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lol what possible reason could PlayStationEra have to abandon the forum?
I should have seen this coming after Sweet Nicole left. She made it feel like this was a small community focussed site. Bless her she did well.
No that is pretty much it. He assembled the best team the fastest and created the most viable successor to GAF and thus all the migration went to Era. A few others tried as well to cash in on the exodus with their own forums, but Cerium lucked out. He promised transparency and to that effect there would be no sole owner, instead a whole team collectively owned the site. Shortly after the LLC was established and ads began to roll to "cover the server expenses" and pay some coding staff. Eventually all the other owners sold their shares to Cerium and retired and suddenly he became the sole owner, announced over night. After that he pretty much vanished, likely to avoid risking ever getting cancelled over something like Lore, so to not ruin his chances to eventually sell the site. I assume a lot of the prominent communities leaving has resulted in reduced traffic and revenue this year (membership growth has also stalled), so this was the best time to jump ship for him.
So it was never about getting away from a sexual harassing owner of another site…
it was about exploiting people's anger about it.
who could have foreseen this?
it was about exploiting people's anger about it.
who could have foreseen this?
To be honest, the factual site management down to the moderation always fell short of the promises made when Era first came to be. The hierarchy never was flat, the moderation never was transparent. I stopped expecting it to be at one point after one of many shitshows that happened over the past 4 years. So I find it hard to be surprised (outside of the $4.5M evaluation) that the site would be sold at some point now. Somehow seems like a fitting end.
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I dunno I'd probably respect the paid employees version of mods because they'd have a vested interest in doing the job tbh I'd expect more of them too which probably would be a good thing
MOBA is a Swedish company and has to follow GDPR rules.
Everything you need to know about the "Right to be forgotten" - GDPR.eu
Also known as the right to erasure, the GDPR gives individuals the right to ask organizations to delete their personal data. But organizations don’t always have to do it....
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Y'all have no idea how little relative effort it takes any remotely experienced web dev to set-up a website, and especially one that runs on forum software, it's kind of amusing how y'all think it's some kind of monstrous effort that took months of planning.
It's actually unbelievable we let one person own the whole site after what happened with GAF. It should never have been allowed.
lmao what. It takes almost no effort to get a forum up.
It's not like the scales have fallen from my eyes or anything. The way this site was originally pitched sounded like a bunch of idealist horseshit to me from the get go. An opportunity presented itself when neogaf imploded and an opportunist with the resources to act upon it seized their chance; it was never about community, ideology or a shared vision other than making a profit somewhere down the road. And I get it. That's just the way the world works. I'll wait and see how everything shakes out, but I won't be terribly surprised if ResetEra withers on the vine.
The ownership of Era was always BS. They could have set up a non-profit foundation or a user-owned co-op to own it, but chose not to. I guess some Swedish company owning it isn't necessarily worse than some individual rando owning it.
This is the perfect post to this bullshit.
I didn't realise Cerium was the sole owner, and that wasn't super fucking transparent. if he really was 'breaking his back' over managing the site then he should've explored sorting out a coop amongst admins and looked into paying mods. But nah fuck everyone else just sell it for millions after already pocketing millions in ad revenue and exploiting labor. running after you sell it to a corporate entity that's already said it plans to exploit us for more profit.
Fuck this.
Or they would do the bare minimum needed to keep their jobs, know nothing about this community and the people in it, and do whatever their bosses tell them at the end of the day. You would expect more of them and not get it.
A random faceless corporation focused on maximizing revenue isn't going to do a better job of moderating a community as large and varied as Era is.
Pretty much. People were lured under that premise but in the end we were all just a means to a couple of million dollars into somebody's pocket.
The LLC was there from the start. Founded October 23, 2017 from looking at the public records. Which makes sense considering shares were divided between different people in the beginning.
To be fair, the mods seem to be fine with not getting paid.
Couldn't be me tho that's for damn sure, especially with the profits being made lol
You should respect this forum's staff regardless of income.
That and it was very clear day 1 that it was a barebones site, even from just lurking.
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