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PS5 faceplate company forced to cancel orders following a complaint from Sony
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They get official license deals with Apple I believe in some cases
Not really the same thing. If someone was selling parts for the iphone, they would go after them, (which they have, shame apple)
apple cant patent cases because they are too general
This is so dumb. Very soon the ability for anybody to 3D print there own will be out there and they won't be able to fight that. If they wanted to sell them on their own terms than they shouldn't have made it just out of plastic.
Probably just because this is happening pre-launch and Sony likely has their own custom faceplates in the works, or officially licensed companies to make them on their behalf. Give it a year or so and I bet Sony won't care about third party faceplate makers anymore when PS5 has been out for long enough.
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Shame for them, but futile for Sony. In like a month anyone who really wants one will be able to get one or even make their own, as they should be able to
I'd be really surprised if there weren't licensing agreements there.
It seems here, the problem is two fold, in that the name is incredibly close to PlayStation, and the product wasn't licensed in any manner. The race to be the first ones to make these available may have bit them in the ass.
In principle I think Sony should allow people to sell third-party plates, especially if Sony themselves don't intend to enter that market. But if you couldn't see that this company was a fly-by-night business that was sketchy at best (how on earth do they know how to make the plates when they don't even have access to a PlayStation 5?) and chose a name that was guaranteed to attract a lawsuit, I don't know what to say.
He put a skin/wrap on it. I was thinking about doing that instead of using spray paint lol
So why did he title his video like that? Is it for Youtube algorithms? Good job on his research though.
I did the thing when the PS5's plates were shown to he removable... went straight to Alibaba to see if anyone started anything.
Of course Sony can't really stop all unofficial aftermarket plate/panel sales but in this case it was easy to go after this particular company since they themselves made it easy for Sony to go after them.
Also after watching the video posted by Iwao the company seems shady. I wouldn't be surprised if they are just saying that they are the ones manufacturing the custom plates while really they will just be getting it from Alibaba (once it starts selling them) and repackage those with their brand.
Also after watching the video posted by Iwao the company seems shady. I wouldn't be surprised if they are just saying that they are the ones manufacturing the custom plates while really they will just be getting it from Alibaba (once it starts selling them) and repackage those with their brand.
After watching that video I'm not going to be ordering anything from them when they do have their stuff back up.
It was skins glued to the original white plates. Not 3rd party new color plates. The interior of those plates was still white.
Lol, when something looks shady, it probably is.
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Thats usually how things work yes. Will not stop alot of chinese companies to make them and sell them without licenses.
Sony needs to wring every dollar they can out of people. The reason for the plates being so easy to remove and customize is so they can sell "Limited Edition" ones down the line
Is that a bad thing now? Would be better if you only had the option to buy a Limited Edition console if you wanted a new look other than skins?
Is Sony against 3d printing for personal use or against SELLING unlicensed faceplates that may or may not affect air flow?
Sorry that is not how patent infringement works. There are things like intent etc. You can't just change one tiny thing to not be infringing anymore.
The latter. Printing your own, even the exact same plate as original, is fine if you don't do it for profit
Good luck proving intent when they were obviously not trying to pass off the shells as official. Hardware modding is not illegal. Sony doesn't get to dictate who makes what when it comes to aftermarket sales. Apple tried to shut down 3rd party repair parts/shops and lost. Sony would lose here.
There is absolutely intent to produce plates that are almost indistinguishable from the original. They used Photoshops of official ps5 renders. Apple vs 3rd party repair shop is a different case altogether. Sony would definitely not lose here.
They might have agreements with companies to sell officially licensed ones
Yes, they would. Even the most litigious of the big 3 - Nintendo - doesn't go after hardware mods. It's dumb and it's dumb to defend this.
Hardware mods is different from things that are a 1:1 match to original parts. I work in patent litigation. For biotech, but still. This is how things work. In European patent law, at least
It wasn't a 1:1 match and it wasn't being sold as official or licensed. You guys are just saying things in defense of this action.
With Sony (and many other companies, I'm sure), winning isn't the intent. Sony isn't above throwing lawsuits at companies with the intention of putting them out of business as a result of smaller companies not being able to afford to continue defending themselves against lawsuits. Sony's done it before. It happened with Bleem! and Lik Sang.
Im saying things in how intellectual property protection works. It was a 1:0.99 match then, still infringing, you can't add/leave out 1 little detail to circumvent patents. Its not how IP protection works.
I wonder if Sony is sourcing the same legal team that handle patents that Nintendo use
They didn't do shit with PS4s faceplate and I expect the same this gen so I don't get why they get all fussy about it
Fake edit: then again if your website was called Platestation 5 then you fucked up lol
They didn't do shit with PS4s faceplate and I expect the same this gen so I don't get why they get all fussy about it
Fake edit: then again if your website was called Platestation 5 then you fucked up lol
You could argue that the way they initially named the brand was so close to PlayStation 5 branding that it might be mistaken as an officially licensed product by Sony. I agree that they cannot really dictate who makes what, and they can't really go after every unofficial after market plates but like I said this particular company didn't do themselves any favor with their initial branding.
Also, with their recent actions it makes me doubt that they are even manufacturing the plates that they were selling. Like I said earlier, maybe they intended to just buy those plates from Alibaba once it is available and just repackage them with their branding.
They just need to sell covers that can attach to the existing face plates to circumvent this one, I think. Doesn't change the form of the existing plate, but allows for changing its look.
I'm just wondering, based on how some posters here are arguing, how big is a company allowed to get before defending their patents/ip suddenly becomes "anti-consumer"?
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The issue isnt Sony selling it. The issue is they are stopping other companies from doing it so only they can control it.
It is not just a square. It has a distinct form. Come on. Look up design and utility patents. Form factors like this can be protected as intellectual property.
Ah...I see.
So their plan was to resell a product from Alibaba. It's not a bad hustle tbh, but sometimes there's a fine line between a hustle and a scam and they crossed over into scam territory. I doubt that they had engineers, or the dimensions as claimed. They were simply going to receive their Alibaba shipment, make sure the thing actually fits, mark it up around 600% and then ship it to you.
Surely not the spirited small company people had in mind when they say things like Sony is crushing the little guys.
First option - There'd be a huge market for people wanting to customize the console look. I would be surprised if they didn't create their own faceplates.
Second option - that's a really good point
Third option - damn straight they gonna