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Anthony Hopkins · Feb 9, 2020

Isayas said:
I dunno goofed up then and I apologize but there is no way in hell PS5 is sniffing 2080.

No worries.
But 2 reliable sources say ps5 is more powerful then a 2080.
klee said XsX is slightly above 12tf and ps5 is above that, a 11tf Navi would be better then a 2080. Jason Said both are above 2080.

Edit: made a mistake, Hopkins is tired.

ItWasMeantToBe19 · Feb 9, 2020

Anthony Hopkins said:
No worries.
But 2 reliable sources say ps5 is more powerful then a 2080.
Jason and klee said XsX is slightly above 12tf and ps5 is above that, a 11tf Navi would be better then a 2080.

Where did Jason and Klee say the PS5 is more powerful?

Isayas · Feb 9, 2020

Anthony Hopkins said:
No worries.
But 2 reliable sources say ps5 is more powerful then a 2080.
Jason and klee said XsX is slightly above 12tf and ps5 is above that, a 11tf Navi would be better then a 2080.

Again I apologize for saying he didn't say it but man he did say that lol. I can't have my PS5 as strong as my PC which is a 2080 Super.

Patent · Feb 9, 2020

ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Where did Jason and Klee say the PS5 is more powerful?

Jason says that they are both more powerful then a 2080, he has never said who is the more powerful of the 2 systems tho but its so close and it would take awhile to figure it out

Isayas · Feb 9, 2020

III-V said:
Source?

It is a 600 USD video card.

Burrman · Feb 9, 2020

Anthony Hopkins said:
No worries.
But 2 reliable sources say ps5 is more powerful then a 2080.
Jason and klee said XsX is slightly above 12tf and ps5 is above that, a 11tf Navi would be better then a 2080.

Only Klee said ps5 was ahead if I remember correctly

vivftp · Feb 9, 2020

Isayas said:
It is a 600 USD video card.

Retail price has zero bearing on how much it would cost to put something similar in the consoles.

anexanhume · Feb 9, 2020

BlacknGoldBlood said:
Consistent with 9.25- 10 TFs?

Gohlad said:
And if we "do the math" the 5700XT comes to the infamous 12TF (CGN). Furthermore, it's consistent with Digital Foundry's testing of "2x the power of the One X" being achieved by it.

No, consistent with >10TF. If it were less, the 2070 or 2070 super would be the most appropriate equivalent.

Tappin Brews · Feb 9, 2020

imagine how many votes no would have if all those that were tempted by cats and walnuts could stick to the question

Isayas · Feb 9, 2020

vivftp said:
Retail price has zero bearing on how much it would cost to put in the consoles.

Why not 2080ti then?

III-V · Feb 9, 2020

Isayas said:
It is a 600 USD video card.

Comparing a custom APU to A discrete GPU made by a different company altogether?

I'll take Jason's word for it.

Evolved1 · Feb 9, 2020

Isayas said:
It is a 600 USD video card.

Yeah, if you buy one.

Isayas · Feb 9, 2020

III-V said:
Comparing a custom APU to A discrete GPU made by a different company altogether?

I'll take Jason's word for it.

We will see and he is more likely accurate anyways.

vivftp · Feb 9, 2020

Isayas said:
Why not 2080ti then?

I'm not sure what you're trying to prove with that question. These consoles will be a certain level of power which is superior to the 2080 it seems. The fact that Nvidia charges a lot for the 2080 means nothing there.

ItWasMeantToBe19 · Feb 9, 2020

Burrman said:
Only Klee said ps5 was ahead if I remember correctly

What did Klee get right so far? Because he looks like he will not be accurate about PS5 reveal in February.

Anthony Hopkins · Feb 9, 2020

ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Where did Jason and Klee say the PS5 is more powerful?

I made mistake, just klee said ps5 s more powerful.

Patent · Feb 9, 2020

ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
What did Klee get right so far? Because he looks like he will not be accurate about PS5 reveal in February.

Maybe wait and see on that one

s y · Feb 9, 2020

Exciting week ahead of us.

ItWasMeantToBe19 · Feb 9, 2020

Patent said:
Maybe wait and see on that one

We'll see, but I'm getting doubtful.

vivftp · Feb 9, 2020

s y said:
Exciting week ahead of us.

Yup it is! We got Dreams coming out!

So... Why is it exciting to you? 😀

Patent · Feb 9, 2020

ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
We'll see, but I'm getting doubtful.

You can doubt, but the idea the window has passed is ludicrous

Burrman · Feb 9, 2020

ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
What did Klee get right so far? Because he looks like he will not be accurate about PS5 reveal in February.

I really don't know what he's called yet. I asked this before but never got an answer

ItWasMeantToBe19 · Feb 9, 2020

Patent said:
You can doubt, but the idea the window has passed is ludicrous

What has Klee gotten right so far though?

Patent · Feb 9, 2020

ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
What has Klee gotten right so far though?

Im not basing my info on klee, he did tease the xsx reveal the day before as far as i know but idc not what im hanging my hat on

Isayas · Feb 9, 2020

vivftp said:
I'm not sure what you're trying to prove with that question. These consoles will be a certain level of power which is superior to the 2080 it seems. The fact that Nvidia charges a lot for the 2080 means nothing there.

I was moving the goalposts.

MykhellMikado · Feb 9, 2020

III-V said:
Not for Oberon/PS5 it doesn't. For Arden/XSX it does. Jason also said long ago that both were shooting for higher than Stadia (10.7 TF). In my estimation, Jason has said quite a bit. He's not a super technical guy but he knows what a damn 2080 is.

Ummm Stadia is GCN Tflops.

Interestingly enough that's the equivalent of a Vega 56 Tflops which would make sense if its outdated info of an early devkit.....

Also that 10.7 GCN is only 8.5 RDNA Tflops... which is also consistent with rumors....

Deleted member 50658 · Feb 9, 2020

ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
What has Klee gotten right so far though?

Sometime like a day or so before VGA´s he said we would find out more very soon and he would not be needed much longer. People started to talk about there might be something at the show and one poster posted a picture of scarlett johansson and Klee replied with BINGO or something similar.

Brees2Thomas · Feb 9, 2020

Burrman said:
I really don't know what he's called yet. I asked this before but never got an answer

Klee did say PS meeting at end of February, but in my book, he shouldn't be held to that since the meeting date may have been pushed back.

ItWasMeantToBe19 · Feb 9, 2020

Rumpestump said:
Sometime like a day or so before VGA´s he said we would find out more very soon and he would not be needed much longer. People started to talk about there might be something at the show and one poster posted a picture of scarlett johansson and Klee replied with BINGO or something similar.

Well that is one thing so that's good. What other things has he suggested?

SublimeAnarky · Feb 9, 2020

Reddit

Has that been posted/discussed here yet? Also, is there a better way to link reddit on our posts?

ItWasMeantToBe19 · Feb 9, 2020

SublimeAnarky said:
Reddit

Has that been posted/discussed here yet? Also, is there a better way to link reddit on our posts?

This has 0 upvotes on Reddit so I don't know why it should be taken seriously?

FF Seraphim · Feb 9, 2020

SublimeAnarky said:
Reddit

Has that been posted/discussed here yet? Also, is there a better way to link reddit on our posts?

Saying 2.0ghz clocked chipset. God I need to see how they do the cooling factor.

vivftp · Feb 9, 2020

Isayas said:
I was moving the goalposts.

Ahhh, icic. 😃

SublimeAnarky said:
Reddit

Has that been posted/discussed here yet? Also, is there a better way to link reddit on our posts?

I've wanted them to do chiplets ever since I first heard about them. Would make a PS5 Pro easier if they could just add more GPU chiplets for the desired power. Pro with 3nm quad GPU chiplets would be nifty 😁

Brees2Thomas · Feb 9, 2020

SublimeAnarky said:
Reddit

Has that been posted/discussed here yet? Also, is there a better way to link reddit on our posts?

Looks like BS to me.

Deleted member 50658 · Feb 9, 2020

ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Well that is one thing so that's good. What other things has he suggested?

Very similar in power with a slight edge to PS5, we should stop obsessing over the teraflops difference and those are unimportant basically compared to the rest, from what he seen, from a game his source is working on, we are in for a ride come next gen and apparently he said in a PM to a user that the Sony event was planned for the end of feb. He also is a public figure and posted both his real name and picture of him working on a video game magazine back in the day so he is not like many other "insiders" claiming things on twitter etc anonymous.

Burrman · Feb 9, 2020

BlacknGoldBlood said:
Klee did say PS meeting at end of February, but in my book, he shouldn't be held to that since the meeting date may have been pushed back.

What did he call before that gave him such a track record?

SublimeAnarky · Feb 9, 2020

ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
This has 0 upvotes on Reddit so I don't know why it should be taken seriously?

I didn't know that reddit up votes were a prerequisite to speculation. This was me attempting to find material that could move us on from controller conversations.

Looks like it hasn't been seen here before though, so have at it Era. Let's get these hype trains back on track. :)

tusharngf · Feb 9, 2020

PLASTICA-MAN said:

Rtx 2080 is a monster but it's a 2 yr old gpu now. Still very impressive.

Brees2Thomas · Feb 9, 2020

Burrman said:
What did he call before that gave him such a track record?

I don't know. I believe he was verified by a mod here as having a legit source in the video game industry.

tusharngf · Feb 9, 2020

SublimeAnarky said:
Reddit

Has that been posted/discussed here yet? Also, is there a better way to link reddit on our posts?

From Reddit link but doesn't say anything about the source. Looks fake to me.

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Proposed specification on the chip-let design:

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- 10.3 Teraflops (Navi)

- 40 compute units (8 disabled / 48 total)

- Clocked at 2Ghz (2010Mhz) due to reduction in yield with die size

- 16GB GDDR6 + 4GB DDR4 (background task)

- 512GB/s memory bandwidth

- Hardware-based ray tracing & VRS (Variable Rate Shading)

- Hybrid SSD at 5-7GB/s

- Price & launch date: Unknown

Deleted member 12635 · Feb 9, 2020

I thought Reddit & Pastebins are banned now?

Tappin Brews · Feb 9, 2020

come on kiddos, hes fucking klee. from gamefan. thats enough cred.

FF Seraphim · Feb 9, 2020

Colbert said:
I thought Reddit & Pastebins are banned now?

Better than talking about controllers!

Wereroku · Feb 9, 2020

Colbert said:
I thought Reddit & Pastebins are banned now?

Just pastebin is banned in the op.

anexanhume · Feb 9, 2020

tusharngf said:
From Reddit link but doesn't say anything about the source. Looks fake to me.

-

Proposed specification on the chip-let design:

-

- 10.3 Teraflops (Navi)

- 40 compute units (8 disabled / 48 total)

- Clocked at 2Ghz (2010Mhz) due to reduction in yield with die size

- 16GB GDDR6 + 4GB DDR4 (background task)

- 512GB/s memory bandwidth

- Hardware-based ray tracing & VRS (Variable Rate Shading)

- Hybrid SSD at 5-7GB/s

- Price & launch date: Unknown

The problem is that the silicon described is nowhere near the reticle limit. Ergo, full of shit.

______________

edit: and something I want to repeat because I love yelling into the void. If PS5 does indeed have hardware RT and VRS, it likely would have been impossible that Oberon, which first leaked around the start of 2019, could have those features. This is because Navi supposedly needed a design spin that would have landed around the same time. This is why people are not putting faith in the GitHub leak as representative of the final design. They clearly were working with what silicon was available at the time.

Deleted member 12635 · Feb 9, 2020

FF Seraphim said:
Better than talking about controllers!

True. LOL.

Deleted member 15973 · Feb 9, 2020

Klee, come back and feed us

Bosch · Feb 9, 2020

I think Jason said to get with a grant o Salt the part to be as powerfull as a 2080.

I really doubt that... Consoles probably will be in line with a 2070-2070S something there.

TheUnseenTheUnheard · Feb 9, 2020

iboshow said:
Klee, come back and feed us

Klee seeps

Bosch · Feb 9, 2020

Anthony Hopkins said:
No worries.
But 2 reliable sources say ps5 is more powerful then a 2080.
klee said XsX is slightly above 12tf and ps5 is above that, a 11tf Navi would be better then a 2080. Jason Said both are above 2080.

Edit: made a mistake, Hopkins is tired.

Jason didn't say that. He said he heard they are as powerfull as a 2080 but to get that with a grain of salt.

jschreier if he could come here would be nice. Because you guys are changing what he said.

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