If people will pay to experience them, why do they all get price cuts within a month and drop to $20 or less within a year?
A small percentage (3-5%) of PS4 owners will run out and buy Sony games day one. Everyone else waits for the inevitable "devaluation." In the long run Sony will work to convert the 95% into subscribers, not worry about the 3% who are willing to pay any price.
Dear Sony, I live in LATAM. Can you please give me access to this service? In exchange, I give you money.
That's a huge price cut.
Is it sustainable to put their exclusives day one on the service?
If people will pay to experience them, why do they all get price cuts within a month and drop to $20 or less within a year?
A small percentage (3-5%) of PS4 owners will run out and buy Sony games day one. Everyone else waits for the inevitable "devaluation." In the long run Sony will work to convert the 95% into subscribers, not worry about the 3% who are willing to pay any price.
What part of the cow is Knack from?PlayStation games sell millions upon millions of copies. They're not going to devalue their games by putting them on a service day one. Again, PlayStation games are the prime cut of steak, people will pay to experience them.
I don't think that'll be the case. When I go to PS4 PSNow games I have downloaded but not played in awhile they sometimes have a little lock on them then when I launch them it says that the product is not licensed or something but the lock goes away and I can launch it the second time. I think it's kinda reactivating the license through PS Now. If the game isn't available on PS Now I imagine the lock will stay.The 3 month rotation thing actually need some more details. Saw some people saying that it might be like PS+: The game will leave the service catalog but remains on your account if you continue as a subscriber.
How it works on GamePass when this happens? The game gets straight up locked?
I want SP only games with big budgets, and they wouldn't do it without profit.
But I think that first party games should be permanent to the service after some time.
I for one am glad that the conversation around subscription services will be more positive now that Sony is taking theirs more seriously.
But that's where the profit comes from, the small percentage that buys day 1.
And I'm not one of those btw, Death Stranding will be my first $60 purchase this year (and Pokemon with the discount voucher).
That 3% you cite brings in nearly 3-5 million 60$ boxed sales over the first week of release for a big title. It's a ridiculous amount of revenue.
When your games have this kind of pull, putting it on a service day one for peanuts is a little more than a fanboy's wet dream.
I will gladly sub when 1st party appears day 1.
Otherwise it's uninteresting.
?No one else is doing anything like that. Theyve been cranking out huge exclusives for years now. That would be a pretty crazy service.
If people will pay to experience them, why do they all get price cuts within a month and drop to $20 or less within a year?
A small percentage (3-5%) of PS4 owners will run out and buy Sony games day one. Everyone else waits for the inevitable "devaluation." In the long run Sony will work to convert the 95% into subscribers, not worry about the 3% who are willing to pay any price.
As always with this argument, feel free to do the math. Getting 20%, 30%, 40% of the install base to pay you $10 every single month is worth way more than having 3% of the install base give you $60 once. As we know from attach rates, most users do not buy more than one game each year, so getting them to give you $100 is simply more money than you'd otherwise make hoping they drop $60 on your games.
Microsoft is absolutely doing that and have been for a while. Gears 5 was a massive game and you could play it for a buck.No one else is doing anything like that. Theyve been cranking out huge exclusives for years now. That would be a pretty crazy service.
If people will pay to experience them, why do they all get price cuts within a month and drop to $20 or less within a year?
A small percentage (3-5%) of PS4 owners will run out and buy Sony games day one. Everyone else waits for the inevitable "devaluation." In the long run Sony will work to convert the 95% into subscribers, not worry about the 3% who are willing to pay any price.
Does PS Now work like PS+ in that other accounts can use the service as long as the main account is set as the primary?
I love the Horizon games but only have a PS4. I'm tired of having to go to a friends house to play the best racing games this gen 😑
As always with this argument, feel free to do the math. Getting 20%, 30%, 40% of the install base to pay you $10 every single month is worth way more than having 3% of the install base give you $60 once. As we know from attach rates, most users do not buy more than one game each year, so getting them to give you $100 is simply more money than you'd otherwise make hoping they drop $60 on your games.
I dont think they do. Sony or nintendo putting all their games up like that would be a world apart thanks to the nature of the output.
Umm Disney Plus (Streaming service) is giving Marvel Shows the same budget as their movies...Sony has a very clear vision. It's the same thing that movie theaters are doing tbh. Sure, you could put the movies on Netflix day one. But are those movies any good?
PlayStation games are like The Joker, Ad Astra, a Marvel movie etc. You know, big budget, expensive movies.
Sure, a lot of people are going to wait until on demand or a streaming services to watch those movies, but imagine if a marvel movie was put on a streaming service? Can't have that kind of devaluation for an IP that prestige. Board members would lose their minds.
Are they removing the first party games? No Spider-Man and available until 1/2/2020 on lots of big exclusives?Damn good deal.
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? Microsoft first party games are on gamespass day 1I dont think they do. Sony or nintendo putting all their games up like that would be a world apart thanks to the nature of the output.
Well said, these are business that need to keep the lights on. It's good when they do things that benefit us, but we have to stop acting like they are really worried about us and our pockets. If economist are right and the market overall slows down, $9.99 pice points are going to be very attractive as folks start to hold on to their money.If 3% of the base buys a $60 game on launch day, take $10 for retailer (and with Sony making their own physical game store online they will recoup this $10) thats $50 x 3M sales = $150M
If it's 5%, like Spider Man and TLOU2 likely is, that's $250M. After retailer cut.
it would be absolutely delusional to put those games on Now on launch day. Literally throwing away money.
GTA V is still selling past 100M copies, that's why it's a limited time game on Now. So players get hooked then pay retail for it later. But that's my point, it has retail legs like many PS4 exclusives do too.
Xbox for example, can afford to put launch games in GP because their base is inherently smaller and probably more third party driven than Sony or Nintendo's, since their first party output has taken a beating in recent years.
5% ofXbox One base (let's say 40M) is 2M, where as it's 5M on PS4. Almost triple.
if Xbox One exclusives were selling 5-10M copies at retail in the first 2-3 months, you wouldn't see them on games pass on day one imo
The price is great. The selection is a bit better, but it's only for a couple months, which is unfortunate. The Sony games should be part of the service always.
Every single new Xbox Games Studio game is on GamePass, day one.
Guys, that person is making a point about the perceived quality of first party games.
How much money either service makes for either company is not my problem. What matters to me is what I am getting for my money.
Unless you own shares in Microsoft or Sony why would you care?
Ah, fuck that console warring bullshitGuys, that person is making a point about the perceived quality of first party games.
While I do gravitate more towards the Sony exclusives, I don't think the others are of less quality.
They're finally about to get serious now with their Now. Might subscribe now.
I honestly think this is Google's doing since there is no pricing info for xCloud yet.This was surprising to see this morning.
Credit to Xbox for making this happen, this is why competition is so important.
I will gladly sub when 1st party appears day 1.
Otherwise it's uninteresting.
If people will pay to experience them, why do they all get price cuts within a month and drop to $20 or less within a year?
A small percentage (3-5%) of PS4 owners will run out and buy Sony games day one. Everyone else waits for the inevitable "devaluation." In the long run Sony will work to convert the 95% into subscribers, not worry about the 3% who are willing to pay any price.
I've zero interest in this console warring bullshit.If you feel like ms/nintendo/sony stables are all of equal value, then getting any of them for 10 a month day one is the same thing. If not, then not.
No, it's not shared with all the games in the service. Devs get paid for X amount of time or by x amount of downloads...there is no revenue sharing.What the hell, it's $10 per month to be shared for ALL THE GAMES IN THE SERVICE against a full $60 for a single game. It seems that you are the one that have to do the math.