I've personally already had to deal with overreactions and fear-mongering surrounding the virus. I work in a hospital and it was from staff. One of them was the nursing manager for a floor.I also have concerns about the inevitable domino effect Sony's move will have on people's perceptions of COVID-19. If a large company makes an important decision based on unsupported science or misinterpreting information from the WHO or any other organization, that will have negative social consequences as well (as xenophobic reactions have shown). I choose to believe Sony made this in good faith but the potential consequences are worth mentioning.
Wow getting pulled back in. Where the fuck are you going???The convention center is practically around the corner from Chinatown, but yeah... Sucks for people who were going to PAX for Sony's stuff.
I mean there's very little reason to think people in Chinatown are significantly more likely to have the disease atm than anyone else. Even if more of those people do travel to China or come into contact with people who do, there are currently a bunch of rules in place around such individuals to prevent spread.The convention center is practically around the corner from Chinatown, but yeah... Sucks for people who were going to PAX for Sony's stuff.
Just because you can argue this, doesn't mean you should. Lol. It's the fact that the Flu AND the C-V are out there together what makes this even more sensible to do.So should we shut everything down every flu season? After all it killed an estimated 14k people this year IN THE US ALONE low balling the estimate.
I get why Sony took the precautions and I respect them protecting their employees. I also don't want everyone shutting the fuck down every time a health scare comes along.
There are an incredibly small number of cases in the US which are already being quarantined. The restrictions on travel and limitations placed on people who might be at risk make it highly unlikely that you'll randomly Run into someone carrying the disease over here. A lot of care is being done to prevent an outbreak in the US and if the risk was enough to really merit concern the CDC would start recommending against gatherings like this in the first place which they aren't doing at the moment
If the virus is not under control by then it will definitely affect E3. And probably the release of the new consoles.While America is very low risk, Sony will have people flying in from Asia.
I wonder if this will effect E3 for other publishers.
People are flying here internationally, on planes with other passengers flying internationally, from countries with higher rates of the virus than the US. Another thing is that were an employee to get sick, it would likely spread to many other employees, it's a large company. It could have a big effect on their bottom line.There are an incredibly small number of cases in the US which are already being quarantined. The restrictions on travel and limitations placed on people who might be at risk make it highly unlikely that you'll randomly Run into someone carrying the disease over here. A lot of care is being done to prevent an outbreak in the US and if the risk was enough to really merit concern the CDC would start recommending against gatherings like this in the first place which they aren't doing at the moment
"Tis just games" is such a weak mindset. You are ok with Sony cancelling, losing, imperfection of a craft. When you stop getting angry after having an event cancelled, you've lost twice.
Worth keeping in mind Spain has way less people than the us so the actual rate of appearances isn't that difference, and the fact that the US is so much bigger also means the way outbreaks work will be different. Also with Spain it's an EU country so you need to keep in mind that travel from other EU countries that also have had cases need to be consideredThere are fewer cases of coronavirus in Spain than the US, but AT&T, Amazon, BT, Ericsson, Deutsche Telekom, Cisco, Intel, Facebook, HMD Global, Nokia, LG, Sprint, Verizon, Sony, MediaTek, Royole, Marvell, Volvo, NVIDIA, Marvell, McAfee, Sprint, Rakuten, Western Digital, and Vivo all withdrew from the Mobile World conference in Barcelona. The conference was subsequently cancelled. Maybe all these large companies are overreacting, maybe they have risk assessment teams telling them better safe than sorry. Sony pulling out of PAX isn't an isolated event, and it will probably be a rocky road for conferences for the next couple months.
Wasn't there a PAX in the past where someone with swine flu spread it to those on the showfloor?
Part of the problem is that, right now, the WHO defers risk assessment to people and companies individually. It's up to you to assess the risk. Obviously some people/companies will be more or less risk averse in these circumstances than others, so you'll have varying responses. I mean, actually, maybe this isn't a problem per se, but it's just how it is. I'm not sure there's an objectively right or wrong answer here. I doubt in cases like this the decision to either press ahead, or withdraw from something is taken lightly, though, and I'm sure it's done in good faith. No-one would go into a decision process like that wanting to disrupt plans... if Sony didn't want to attend PAX for other reasons, I'm sure they'd have no problem saying so (see: E3).
Lol dude people going to take you seriously"Tis just games" is such a weak mindset. You are ok with Sony cancelling, losing, imperfection of a craft. When you stop getting angry after having an event cancelled, you've lost twice.
The convention center is practically around the corner from Chinatown, but yeah... Sucks for people who were going to PAX for Sony's stuff.
Imperfection of craft? What the fuck?... Is this a troll post?"Tis just games" is such a weak mindset. You are ok with Sony cancelling, losing, imperfection of a craft. When you stop getting angry after having an event cancelled, you've lost twice.
I mean this is true, having a lot of measures in place is absolutely important. My point was more that most of those measures come before people would even be entering the conLike I said earlier in the thread, it might not be about getting infected by Americans but rather having people from other countries infect Americans as well. Sure it is only 12 cases in America but there is already community spread in some countries, including my own. It took 1 person to spread to 7 others here, out of which 4 went back to their countries and spread it to other folks. These measures also keep the situation from getting worse in the US.
Is sony pulling out of gdc too since it's right around the corner? Well, honestly I have no idea if they were going to gdc.
Are you seriousThe convention center is practically around the corner from Chinatown
Oh come on dude.The convention center is practically around the corner from Chinatown,
A+"Tis just games" is such a weak mindset. You are ok with Sony cancelling, losing, imperfection of a craft. When you stop getting angry after having an event cancelled, you've lost twice.
I shouldn't but...Imperfection of craft? What the fuck?... Is this a troll post?
People losing their minds over not being able to see a stupid new demo.
Now THIS is the worst take in the threadThe convention center is practically around the corner from Chinatown, but yeah... Sucks for people who were going to PAX for Sony's stuff.
i understood that reference dot gif"Tis just games" is such a weak mindset. You are ok with Sony cancelling, losing, imperfection of a craft. When you stop getting angry after having an event cancelled, you've lost twice.
It's a joke:Imperfection of craft? What the fuck?... Is this a troll post?
People losing their minds over not being able to see a stupid new demo.
Not what I was arguing but whatever. I just want the world to keep spinning and people to stop being racist to Chinese people due to a health scare. You can still go out and interact with people. Just wash your damn hands and if you are sick stay home and get tested. Is that so radical? CDC spread the information on this virus to curb the spread (which it is doing) and not make people lose their god damn minds.Just because you can argue this, doesn't mean you should. Lol. It's the fact that the Flu AND the C-V are out there together what makes this even more sensible to do.
Nobody should be in danger so you can watch a new trailer or play a demo man.
Thank you!
I know people who live in a small village who stopped going to the local Chinese restaurant because of the virus.....
lolI shouldn't but... https://www.resetera.com/threads/ni...-after-losing-suggests-a-weak-mindset.170926/
Edit: Sorry for being a buzzkill, but this thread has enough hostility in it already. Last thing we need is people going bananas on a joke post.
The convention center is practically around the corner from Chinatown, but yeah... Sucks for people who were going to PAX for Sony's stuff.
Well, it seems that the president of MWC, who is american , was influenced, on top of cancellations, by CDC recommendations.There are an incredibly small number of cases in the US which are already being quarantined. The restrictions on travel and limitations placed on people who might be at risk make it highly unlikely that you'll randomly Run into someone carrying the disease over here. A lot of care is being done to prevent an outbreak in the US and if the risk was enough to really merit concern the CDC would start recommending against gatherings like this in the first place which they aren't doing at the moment
This is not what the staff post is saying at all. The staff post did not say that viruses are a belief.
The reasoning used to pull out of PAX East is the same reasoning people are using to avoid Chinatowns and Chinese restaurants.
Quantifiable data showing actual risk is not present in either case.
The fuck is this?The convention center is practically around the corner from Chinatown, but yeah... Sucks for people who were going to PAX for Sony's stuff.
I mean keep in mind that when we talk about this issue each EU member country isn't that functionally different from an individual US state, since people from one can freely travel to the others, so it's a bit different than the normal situation between countriesWell, it seems that the president of MWC, who is american , was influenced, on top of cancellations, by CDC recommendations.
Yes MWC probably has more Chinese people attending than other events,but any important meeting, conference etc is a potential risk. As i said, the 2 cases in Spain were, if not mistaken , a German and an English, both coming from conferences in Europe , apparently not related with China, yet they had the virus. So even overreaction, seems the right thing to me, at least hold the expansion as much as possible until a vaccine is created.
And i think cancelling a few events is not a major thing.
It will be interesting, if things continue like this, what will happen with Olympic games for example.
There's no "playing their cards right". If Sony delays the PS5 it's due to delays on the production line due to people getting sick. There isn't some conspiracy behind the scenes.If Sony play their cards right they can use Corona virus to delay the ps5 launch to next year. That way they can push their commitment they made with end of this year.
If Sony play their cards right they can use Corona virus to delay the ps5 launch to next year. That way they can push their commitment they made with end of this year.
I think that's exactly what that poster is saying.by "play their cards right" you mean hope the Coronavirus continues to infect people?