It's not technically a lie if they were paid to finish the PS5 version first. They can "optimize" the Series versions for 6 months to a year, whatever the contract stipulates.
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What exactly is the point you are trying to make here? That MS had Elden Ring trailers on their show case and Sony later had some Elden Ring stuff on theirs? Is it possible there just was no specific marketing deal, or are you implying that Sony "took" Elden Ring marketing away from MS somehow? And that somehow corroborates that they'd do a secret exclusivity deal with Wukong?
Maybe Sony contractually can't market it as an exclusive like they usually would? Game Science could have been a strong enough position to take money from Sony and still retain the right market the game on Xbox. This is much better for Game Science, then say hiding the Xbox version for 6-12 months and dropping a trailer after everybody has long moved on.
I'm trying to argue that Sony never mentioned exclusivity or for how long on Hellblade, and Ninja Theory evidently weren't allowed to talk about other console versions. They gave hints instead like "support from Sony" (money bag), but it's not farfetched for other dev teams like Game Science to handle this differently, even if it means just making up shit, so as long as they don't disclose information that wouldn't be in line with their contract.
Now we are in conspiracy territory.
I think investors would like to know if Sony secured such a blockbuster exclusive, would only be good news for their stock price.
Been #1 Game on US PSN since release at least. Generating more revenue than Fortnite, COD, etc
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I understand that Xbox originally marketed it a bit; the aspect I was calling into question is that Sony ever had marketing themselves, since I don't recall that being the case. And even then, there have been plenty of instances where both MS and Sony have been allowed to market the same game, with Dragon Age being the most recent example of this.
You are being beyond ridiculous and coming off like a console warrior in denial. We have 3 sources confirming this — Microsoft themselves, Paul Tassi's source, and now IGN's source, yet it's still "take with a huge grain of salt" territory? You serious?
Probably not, like 95% of the sales are probably in Asia/China...
Though 5% of 10 million is still a big 500k. But that's not that big of a deal, and it's hard to imagine that the game moved many consoles.
there was no Series S memory leak thing. there was a memory leak thing, and in typical fashion, people kind of just decided that the actual problem was Series S
(for those of you who read thru the thread, this is exactly what I'm talkin bout lol)
This thread is wild. Straight up getting into conspiracy stuff.
The kinds of dumb conspiracy theories I enjoy, not the crazy political kind.
The kinds of dumb conspiracy theories I enjoy, not the crazy political kind.
Showing a trailer at a conference does not a marketing deal make.It was
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Obviously guessing until we get the numbers for August, but even with the lion's share being on PC, a fraction of that would still be considered great for a debut game like that.
That as well.
500k wouldn't let it surpass COD and Fortnite in revenue.
Also, we have reports that it doubled PS5 sales on Alibaba in China.
The game did move consoles over there for sure at least.
both reports deny any technical issue preventing the game from certification/shipping.
the memory leak rumor explicitly said "Due to this issue, the game has not passed Xbox's bug detection tests" and "The studio is already working hard to resolve this issue and achieve the necessary certification." tho. These reports refute that it seems to me.
Which do you see as the conspiracy theory, that it is a Sony deal or it isn't?
Exclusives are 50% about gaining a game, and 50% about denying the game to other platforms.
Sony still gains a lot by keeping Wukong off of Xbox even if the agreement came too late to impact marketing. A PS5 DE is now the cheapest way for a person in China to play Wukong instead of the Series S.
Sony still gains a lot by keeping Wukong off of Xbox even if the agreement came too late to impact marketing. A PS5 DE is now the cheapest way for a person in China to play Wukong instead of the Series S.
There is a lot of subtle pro-PS console warring going on in this thread with the obfuscations/conspiracy theories in this thread.
Microsoft themselves said they "can't comment on the deals made by our partners with other platform holders" about Game Science/Black Myth Wukong along with 2 reports of an exclusivity deal including a full IGN article now.
How much more proof do we need when Microsoft themselves explicitly refers to the deal?
It's pretty simple: Sony made a private deal with Game Science with the focus on selling PS5s in Asia/China and gained a worldwide exclusivity to the title in exchange for promoting the title in Asia/China. Sony has been doing a lot of work promoting the game and PS5s in China.
It's becoming public now. There's no need to try to twist the situation to suit narratives.
Microsoft themselves said they "can't comment on the deals made by our partners with other platform holders" about Game Science/Black Myth Wukong along with 2 reports of an exclusivity deal including a full IGN article now.
How much more proof do we need when Microsoft themselves explicitly refers to the deal?
It's pretty simple: Sony made a private deal with Game Science with the focus on selling PS5s in Asia/China and gained a worldwide exclusivity to the title in exchange for promoting the title in Asia/China. Sony has been doing a lot of work promoting the game and PS5s in China.
It's becoming public now. There's no need to try to twist the situation to suit narratives.
The Developer said exactly why the game is delayed why would anyone not believe them. They were paid by Sony to make up that reason, why? Lol
Did Game Science ever say anything about the memory leak or was that just "insiders"? IIRC all Game Science said was they were "optimizing for Xbox" or some language like that.
Wasn't this one of the project under PlayStation China hero projects? That PlayStation helps Kickstart/ support/ funds in upcoming emerging studios in emerging markets ?
If so I can see why it would launch as exclusive.
View: https://x.com/ChinaHeroPRJCT/status/1826996343103250555?t=PLgV3yY1JUhx1UWT7anCkg&s=19
If so I can see why it would launch as exclusive.
View: https://x.com/ChinaHeroPRJCT/status/1826996343103250555?t=PLgV3yY1JUhx1UWT7anCkg&s=19
Don't you know? The Series S has been the bane of so many developers and games! Such as BG3 and, uh, and, others!
Game Science said 'optimizing for their quality standards', whatever that means.
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Yeah I was just referring to the split; it's moved a lot of consoles in Asia for sure but likely very few outside of there. Hard to know the exact numbers of course because we've only seen totals including PC.
The same paragons who are up in arms about their game being associated with "feminist propaganda"? No, I wouldn't put lying about this past them.
it's not that crazy to assume that the series s is the problem considering it was the cause of BG3 delay.
This stuff lol, I want to see the contract that says "Sony payed them to not optimize Series version for 6 months" *puts on tin hat*
i'm just gonna refer you to what I posted a few pages back
i mean shit we had a thread about that memory leak where the OP literally wrote "not a Series S problem" and the second reply was "so it's a Series S problem?"
Isn't that how all timed exclusivity deals work? I pay you to finish my version first?
Given these reports and Microsoft's public statement. Yeah it's pretty crazy.
Do we really think Microsoft would put out a public statement about a deal that Game Science might have with Sony if the issue was a problem putting the game on Series S?
If the deal doesn't exist, then Sony/Game Science can just deny Microsoft's statement. Mind you Microsoft's statement has been public now for almost 2 full months without denial.
They are massive dickbags and I will never support this game but ultimately money talks: it's not in Sony's best interest to keep such a deal secret or instruct the developer to concoct fake reasons for an Xbox delay so until they or Game Science confirm it the smart thing to do is treat such rumours with scepticism.
I'm pretty sure they said it was console exclusive.
EDIT: https://www.polygon.com/2014/8/12/5995349/dmc-ninja-theory-hellblade-playstation-4-ps4
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