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Coolluck

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Interesting that grenade isn't on a bumper. Seems like that and maybe specialist role should be up there instead of on the D-Pad.
 

smashkirby

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Oh I know, I still think it would be neat to have though. The kill animations are now third person...
Gliding is third person. Free falling in some situations, sure. But not parachuting since you can shoot while doing so.

Interesting that grenade isn't on a bumper. Seems like that and maybe specialist role should be up there instead of on the D-Pad.

That's one of the first things im re-binding. I do understand why though as apperently c4 has been seen replacing a grenade and they want a way to ready it before just throwing.
 

Tora

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100GB of space doesn't sound right when it's only 17GB on PS5 etc

I imagine they meant 100GB for the full game
 
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People were concerned that there was no hint of a beta and now we have it. Out of curiosity what is your concern given that now we will have a beta?

It's just nowhere near enough time for DICE to accumulate data about the game in the wild so they can bug fix and balance elements that need balancing. The word "beta" has completely lost its meaning in this industry. It's a glorified demo, not an opportunity for the devs to dig in to how the meta is going to play out and adjust anything that needs to be adjusted.
 

AndyD

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It's just nowhere near enough time for DICE to accumulate data about the game in the wild so they can bug fix and balance elements that need balancing. The word "beta" has completely lost its meaning in this industry. It's a glorified demo, not an opportunity for the devs to dig in to how the meta is going to play out and adjust anything that needs to be adjusted.
I trust that Dice knows better than we do how much info they will get in 2 days. Not to mention there are two more days on the front of that for preorders and EA Play people. And they know what the numbers look like. I mean this beta is one of the most anticipated gaming events of the fall based on gaming press and social media. They'll potentially have tens in not hundreds of thousands of players on each platform.
 

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It's just nowhere near enough time for DICE to accumulate data about the game in the wild so they can bug fix and balance elements that need balancing. The word "beta" has completely lost its meaning in this industry. It's a glorified demo, not an opportunity for the devs to dig in to how the meta is going to play out and adjust anything that needs to be adjusted.
Battlefield open "betas" have almost always been demos. They do proper alphas and closed betas for everything else.
 

terrible1fi

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I mean it's basically a demo. But for those that may have been assuming that this game is in shambles because we don't have a beta, well now we have it.

I will say that what we see in the beta is likely to be what we mostly see in the full release, although I'm sure we will see minor tweaks
 

Griffy

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What's even more interesting is that there's nothing at all on the individual bumpers. Probably should be grenade.
I feel there must be something on the individual bumpers, the screenshot just doesn't show it because the menu maybe dissolves between different pages to show different functions on certain buttons, and for vehicles/flight?

EDIT: Yeah, there's stuff on just the bumpers:
 

Stoney Mason

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2 days for the Open Beta? That is horrifically short. I'm starting to be really concerned about this game.
You may or may not have a right to be concerned about the full state of the game based on dice prior track record but betas have been demos and marketing tools for years now. Way over a decade. So using this as the basis of the concern just in and of itself is woefully outdated.
 

Stoney Mason

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I feel there must be something on the individual bumpers, the screenshot just doesn't show it because the menu maybe dissolves between different pages to show different functions on certain buttons, and for vehicles/flight?
Yeah even when I posted it, I thought it's not showing lb and rb properly. There would need to be a way to ping and commrose and battlefield has remappable controls anyway for console so I'm not worried on that front.
 

Shadybiz

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You may or may not have a right to be concerned about the full state of the game based on dice prior track record but betas have been demos and marketing tools for years now. Way over a decade. So using this as the basis of the concern just in and of itself is woefully outdated.

Yep. I remember the BF3 open beta, way back when (back in 2011, looks like). It was a demo, and this has been the case since.

With Battlefield games, if you see something you don't like in the open beta, and are hoping it will be fixed by launch...it won't be. Pretty much what you see is what you'll get.

That said, really looking forward to this!
 

elenarie

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In the simplest terms, alpha = feature complete, beta = content complete. :)
 

Donos

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Just preordered the PS5 version on amazon.de (f that price though). Amazon should send me a code when the beta starts?

Hope KB/M support for PS5 is in it (and 120 Hz). After Warzone, i don't want to go back to controller.
 
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Droidian

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I wonder how they're going to split the base xbox and PS4 players from the XsX & PS5 players from each other since the series X and PS5 will be 128 player vs the base 64.
I'm excited, I'll preorder for the hell of it since I'm buying into it anyway.

I was thinking of picking this up on PC but my XsX is connected to the better TV.
 

Coolluck

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I wonder how they're going to split the base xbox and PS4 players from the XsX & PS5 players from each other since the series X and PS5 will be 128 player vs the base 64.
I'm excited, I'll preorder for the hell of it since I'm buying into it anyway.

I was thinking of picking this up on PC but my XsX is connected to the better TV.

They're essentially different games.
 

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I wonder when we will get a proper breakdown of what/how the Battlepasses work?
Will it be like COD?
Will they make a universal currency, like COD points that can be used to buy Battlepasses? Earned during Battepasses?
Will we be able to gift Battlepasses?
 

Yaqza

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I wonder when we will get a proper breakdown of what/how the Battlepasses work?
Will it be like COD?
Will they make a universal currency, like COD points that can be used to buy Battlepasses? Earned during Battepasses?
Will we be able to gift Battlepasses?
I'd like to know whether additional weapons are going to be given for free with Battlepass, but outside of it players will have to earn them.
 
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I'd like to know whether additional weapons are going to be given for free with Battlepass, but outside of it players will have to earn them.

Unless they have quietly chanced things DICE did state back around E3 time that everything affecting gameplay (maps, weapons, vehicles, specialists...) will be free.

What is paid content is cosmetics for most part, but some are attached as freebies to leveling operators, weapons etc.
 

Yaqza

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Unless they have quietly chanced things DICE did state back around E3 time that everything affecting gameplay (maps, weapons, vehicles, specialists...) will be free.

What is paid content is cosmetics for most part, but some are attached as freebies to leveling operators, weapons etc.
Well, "free but earned" is still technically "free", so...
But I hope you are right.
 

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I wonder how they're going to split the base xbox and PS4 players from the XsX & PS5 players from each other since the series X and PS5 will be 128 player vs the base 64.
I'm excited, I'll preorder for the hell of it since I'm buying into it anyway.

I was thinking of picking this up on PC but my XsX is connected to the better TV.
Last gen consoles, Xbox one and PS4, can play together. And PC, XSX, PS5 players can play together.
 
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Well, "free but earned" is still technically "free", so...
But I hope you are right.

That bit in hair splitting territory.

Very few if any game just unlocks all new weapons and gadgets right off the bat as new content cycle / season begins. Some games even make you to pay for new seasons so you even can unlock new weapons in first place, but in case of 2042 those seasons will be free in that sense. Just download a patch and start unlocking new shit.

If you want new fancy skins to use then you need pony up.
 
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In the simplest terms, alpha = feature complete, beta = content complete. :)
I feel there must be something on the individual bumpers, the screenshot just doesn't show it because the menu maybe dissolves between different pages to show different functions on certain buttons, and for vehicles/flight?

EDIT: Yeah, there's stuff on just the bumpers:


Really strange to post the button configuration and then miss two frequently used buttons with important features like this.
 
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The dark ages of battlefield about to end!


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Legacy

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That trailer was so hype! Really tempted to preorder and try the beta
 

Hewlett

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I'll ask this here instead of bumping an older thread:

With the delay to November, is there still an early launch for preorders like there originally was in Oct or is Nov 19th now the release date for everyone?
 

bitcloudrzr

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Just preordered the PS5 version on amazon.de (f that price though). Amazon should send me a code when the beta starts?

Hope KB/M support for PS5 is in it (and 120 Hz). After Warzone, i don't want to go back to controller.
I am not sure that their crossplay plans are set in stone and the beta will probably give them the data they need.

Console - Mouse & Keyboard Support

We've heard your questions about mouse and keyboard support for consoles. We can confirm that we won't be supporting this on consoles at the launch of Battlefield 2042, but we are still investigating the various options about making that available, and how it may impact cross-play. If that ever changes, you'll hear it from us first.
 

Stoney Mason

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Well this is what I have been waiting to hear.

DiCE incorporating easy anti cheat and faster response to reporting cheaters.

Yes. Fuck yes. This is what I was waiting for. Now I am more interested in the game and its future.

"Finally, in another move to keep play fair, Battlefield 2042 will not offer mouse and keyboard support for consoles at launch. Any changes to this in the future will be announced by DICE prior to them being rolled out."
I'm gonna assume this is weird phrasing from the author of the article since I don't see how offering mouse and keyboard on consoles helps "fair play" in a title that is already mixing inputs. Arguably by not offering the option at launch it is doing the exact opposite of that.
 

Theorry

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I'm gonna assume this is weird phrasing from the author of the article since I don't see how offer mouse and keyboard on consoles helps "fair play" in a title that is already mixing inputs. Arguably by not offering the option at launch it is doing the exact opposite of that.
Yes this is indeed contradiction.
 

Stoney Mason

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and the beta will probably give them the data they need.
I'm gonna be a pessimist on this one and argue they are gonna do what they want to do here rather than listen to feedback or follow best practices. I'm not normally a skeptic like this but it seems so clearly they just want to unify the market here for reasons outside of what is the best experience for everybody. I'll leave it up to the beta to change my mind on this but this still remains the #1 feature I fundamentally don't like about the game.
 

Mr Eric

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I'm gonna assume this is weird phrasing from the author of the article since I don't see how offering mouse and keyboard on consoles helps "fair play" in a title that is already mixing inputs. Arguably by not offering the option at launch it is doing the exact opposite of that.

yep, I don't get it as well unless the idea is that they don't want M&K console players when crossplay is off ? If you are a console player, turning off crossplay could be because you don't want to have M&K players in your game, and if they add M&K to console maybe they can't have it limited to console/PC crossplay but still active even without crossplay ?
 
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