Seriously?
Watch the video and then say that. I disagree wholeheartedly.
Luke was the one that asked if he kissed a girl. It was asked right after the contestant was talking about a perk of his job being getting cute girls to talk to him.
Literally not what this is about.Guys, the person was 19 years old. It's not like Katy kissed a minor.
Cool. Talking to cute girls doesn't mean kissing them.Watch the video and then say that. I disagree wholeheartedly.
Luke was the one that asked if he kissed a girl. It was asked right after the contestant was talking about a perk of his job being getting cute girls to talk to him.
The only reasonable position based on the article is this:
1. Katy Perry was wrong to do this, especially because he made it clear the kiss was unwanted, and because of the power dynamic in that situation.
2. An apology would be a reasonable expectation.
3. Reacting as if this is "nothing" conveys either a) a lack of understanding re: our need to respect people when it comes to their own bodies / acts they perceived as intimate, or b) that you're projecting your personal reaction to the situation onto this guy, which doesn't make sense.
Literally not what this is about.
If I'm applying for a job, no matter how casual the interview, if the producer just fucking kisses me? That's a severe overstep.
Man people have intense feelings about a kiss. I am sure the guy has been kissed on the mouth before. It's not like they made out. This whole romanticization of stuff is kinda silly. Do people actually give a shit about their first peck on the lips? Seems like hollywood, I certainly do not remember mine.
Elaborate.I hope I live to see the day when reputable news sites stop writing stories about how outraged the Twitter twits are.
AgreedI hope I live to see the day when reputable news sites stop writing stories about how outraged the Twitter twits are.
Oh good, it's difficult to tell here.
I remember you from the other site. Didn't you vote for Trump? If so, that's an amusing double standard.This man has every right to his complaints and Katy Perry should lose her position on the show from this.
Unfortunately the more the man complains, the more society will label him. Really unfortunate when considering what this picture would look like if the roles were reversed.
She should apologize, but its not severe enough to have her fired or anything like that.
Were you hit on the head with a mallet after your first kiss? How can you not remember it?Man people have intense feelings about a kiss. I am sure the guy has been kissed on the mouth before. It's not like they made out. This whole romanticization of stuff is kinda silly. Do people actually give a shit about their first peck on the lips? Seems like hollywood, I certainly do not remember mine.
Man people have intense feelings about a kiss. I am sure the guy has been kissed on the mouth before. It's not like they made out. This whole romanticization of stuff is kinda silly. Do people actually give a shit about their first peck on the lips? Seems like hollywood, I certainly do not remember mine.
He had not been kissed on the mouth before and he wanted to save it for his first relationship. This is uncommon in society at large but not really within very conservative religious circles.
When I was younger, I thought the same way.
Ah, sorry. Hard to tell sometimes. Apologies.I FUCKING WELL KNOW. IT WAS A BASTARD JOKE.
Fuck me!
And no, that doesn't mean I think sexual assault is something to laugh at which someone will inevitably come out with.
I'm not even going to bother replying to that motherless quote. Good grief.
I guess it's possible that no one had ever given him a peck on the lips but I'm skeptical. To me the probability that he had never been kissed is in the same ballpark as never been hugged or held hands.
You may be right - i was going by the article and now that i read it again I could imagine her interpreting him the way you said. When i read that he pointed to his cheek and said "on the cheek?" I interpreted that as him conveying again that he didn't want a kiss on the lips.Watching the video, he doesnt really make it clear it was unwanted. He says to her "can't kiss a girl if I haven't been in a relationship". To me it came across as him saying he just hasn't had the opportunity. Katy was still wrong to do it either way though.
Were you hit on the head with a mallet after your first kiss? How can you not remember it?
Also, you're saying the kid is a liar?
It's not insane because you don't agree with it. That's a pretty ridiculous thing to say tbh.
Consider that everyone didnt grow up with your experience. I grew up in the same situation as that kid. It's not outlandish to take him at his word.I am saying he may be exaggerating a little. I certainly remember the first time I made out with a girl. The first time a girl kissed me, no chance. When I was a kid guys did rough and tumble things and hanging out with the girls was like playing house and weird shit like that, it was all just a ploy so the girl would try and kiss you. I thought nothing of it.
Katy Perry fucked up. this is probably the last thing she expected.
He had a laundry list of reasons why he didn't want this to happen to him, while I'm guessing most would either be ok with it or would be upset but let it slide quietly.
At the end of the day she was "playing her character" and it backfired on her.
She should definitely apologize.
This thread is split 50/50. Which views are you talking about?Most people on ERA are pretty dismissive of other view points. People like to ridicule things they don't seem to understand.
Consider that everyone didnt grow up with your experience. I grew up in the same situation as that kid. It's not outlandish to take him at his word.
Wouldn't be a big deal (publicly) if the producers decided not to air it though. It was their decision to include it in the episode.
calling it insane is insulting, not everyone has to or wants to adhere to hookup culture, etc. If this guy wants to live his life on "puritan" rules, that's fine, it's not doing anybody any harm. There is literally no reason to shame someone for doing this.In this day and age I would think most people would consider it insane unless you're super conservative (which I also think are nearing a level of insanity in relation to what is and isn't allowed). We aren't puritans right? Kissing doesn't mean losing your virginity unless something's changed in recent years.
This thread is split 50/50. Which views are you talking about?
Dude sounds like an idiot, Katy fucked up and overstepped bounds and should catch a bunch of shit for it, but nothing is gonna happen.
I guess it's possible that no one had ever given him a peck on the lips but I'm skeptical. To me the probability that he had never been kissed is in the same ballpark as never been hugged or held hands.
I guess it's possible that no one had ever given him a peck on the lips but I'm skeptical. To me the probability that he had never been kissed is in the same ballpark as never been hugged or held hands.