That video is a suicide note. It's legitimate to question whether it should be kept online.
That video is a suicide note. It's legitimate to question whether it should be kept online.
Wow, YouTube is at it again trying to bury this video just like they did to the original. Absolutely disgusting.
Fuck YouTube. It will never be deleted forever.
BoomAlso, since they wanna watch us since they have nothing better to do:
Fuck you NeoGAF
Fuck you Evilore you dork boy sexual predator
I'm glad you permabanned me after calling your ass out. Just remember no matter how shitty Era gets, at least we aren't your garbage asses.
Wow, YouTube is at it again trying to bury this video just like they did to the original. Absolutely disgusting.
Fuck YouTube. It will never be deleted forever.
Also keep in mind, the negative reaction from Etika in that other topic was partly because he was spouting racist/homophobic slurs. Of course, people would not give him the benefit of the doubt. (And before you try to go through my posts, odds are, I was one of people too)
and he isn't wrong. and evilore has the balls saying we bullied etika, he shouldn't talk either that piece of shit
Then where were these people during this topic that cause the OP to leave this site for awhile?
Again, this "shame on Era" movement is not in good faith.
Also keep in mind, the negative reaction from Etika in that other topic was partly because he was spouting racist/homophobic slurs. Of course, people would not give him the benefit of the doubt. (And before you try to go through my posts, odds are, I was one of people too)
People had valid reasons to be skeptical of Etika and be frustrated with him. Look at the things he was saying. This situation isn't as simple as some are making it to be, these words are hurtful.
It's tragic that this man who built up this channel and a lot of fans died in this manner as he didn't deserve to go out like this. However these words were definitely harmful and some people's frustrations were warranted I feel.
Issues like this is why I keep speaking of balancing acts. In the early days, ResetEra was brigaded by Neo-Nazis and similar trying to sneak by. There are definitely people sneaking in even now to slip in jabs during topics like this with no intention of actually using the forum afterward.Then where were these people during this topic that cause the OP to leave this site for awhile?
Again, this "shame on Era" movement is not in good faith.
Also keep in mind, the negative reaction from Etika in that other topic was partly because he was spouting racist/homophobic slurs. Of course, people would not give him the benefit of the doubt. (And before you try to go through my posts, odds are, I was one of people too)
You clearly did not read the post you're responding to. Note, I did not say that there would be 100% crossover, and no, that was not an advocation to witch hunt to come up with some arbitrary percentage.You know, I could offer some examples, but that would be calling out.
i'm speaking from the perspective of the marginalized and their reaction to seeing vitriolic posts on social media.Why are treating it like its mutually exclusive? ResetEra being a safe space for minorities doesn't give those same people carte blanche not to treat people who are suffering from mental illness with human decency.
I am in no way saying that he didn't try to go for help. Just that the issue wasn't treated properly. Like you said, he was released from a mental health clinic WAY too fast.also emphatically disagree with your assertion that Desmond "could've" gone for help, considering his mental illness has altered his judgment to the point where he could not properly get the help he needed on his own + there was nobody around to give him the proper treatment he needed either (his stays at the mental health clinics were pretty much a catch and release)
But he's not wrong, we did bully him and it was disgusting, another voice stamped out on the most ""liberal"" forum on the internet.and he isn't wrong. and evilore has the balls saying we bullied etika, he shouldn't talk either that piece of shit
I doubt anyone including the staff disagrees with this, to be fair.Issues like this is why I keep speaking of balancing acts. In the early days, ResetEra was brigaded by Neo-Nazis and similar trying to sneak by. There are definitely people sneaking in even now to slip in jabs during topics like this with no intention of actually using the forum afterward.
We can't ignore that people like that are here, of course. But the fact that they're here with disingenuous criticism also doesn't make all criticism disingenuous. We need to be open to recognize our flaws and we need to take some pains to be aware of context or to know when we don't have it.
Keeping a digital suicide note up especially from somebody who's audience that consists of a LOT of impressionable children doesn't seem like the best course of action.
i'm speaking from the perspective of the marginalized and their reaction to seeing vitriolic posts on social media.
I am in no way saying that he didn't try to go for help. Just that the issue wasn't treated properly. Like you said, he was released from a mental health clinic WAY too fast.
Official Staff CommunicationAs staff we should in fact have paid more attention to and done better with the initial thread, and that's something we've been agonizing over for days. We do usually moderate mental health topics much more vigilantly and that did not happen in this case. We regret that enormously and it's taken a personal toll on all of us.
We do not usually retroactively revisit old threads to issue a lot of bans, but this is an unprecedented situation and we feel it is both appropriate to correct a mistake and also the best way for the community to heal. We will be reviewing the thread again. We have to balance what was known at the time with what is never appropriate, but the bans will not be short.
At the end of the day we are a small team of volunteers trying to keep up with a massive community as best we can. We are members as well and we feel the same things you do.
Thank you.Official Staff CommunicationAs staff we should in fact have paid more attention to and done better with the initial thread, and that's something we've been agonizing over for days. We do usually moderate mental health topics much more vigilantly and that did not happen in this case. We regret that enormously and it's taken a personal toll on all of us.
We do not usually retroactively revisit old threads to issue a lot of bans, but this is an unprecedented situation and we feel it is both appropriate to correct a mistake and also the best way for the community to heal. We will be reviewing the thread again. We have to balance what was known at the time with what is never appropriate, but the bans will not be short.
At the end of the day we are a small team of volunteers trying to keep up with a massive community as best we can. We are members as well and we feel the same things you do.
Official Staff CommunicationAs staff we should in fact have paid more attention to and done better with the initial thread, and that's something we've been agonizing over for days. We do usually moderate mental health topics much more vigilantly and that did not happen in this case. We regret that enormously and it's taken a personal toll on all of us.
We do not usually retroactively revisit old threads to issue a lot of bans, but this is an unprecedented situation and we feel it is both appropriate to correct a mistake and also the best way for the community to heal. We will be reviewing the thread again. We have to balance what was known at the time with what is never appropriate, but the bans will not be short.
At the end of the day we are a small team of volunteers trying to keep up with a massive community as best we can. We are members as well and we feel the same things you do.
I feel like further punishing users for the way the moderation team handled the situation is a strange move. Hopefully the review of how the staff and mods here handled this situation goes far beyond thisOfficial Staff CommunicationAs staff we should in fact have paid more attention to and done better with the initial thread, and that's something we've been agonizing over for days. We do usually moderate mental health topics much more vigilantly and that did not happen in this case. We regret that enormously and it's taken a personal toll on all of us.
We do not usually retroactively revisit old threads to issue a lot of bans, but this is an unprecedented situation and we feel it is both appropriate to correct a mistake and also the best way for the community to heal. We will be reviewing the thread again. We have to balance what was known at the time with what is never appropriate, but the bans will not be short.
At the end of the day we are a small team of volunteers trying to keep up with a massive community as best we can. We are members as well and we feel the same things you do.
Good call, thank you for this.Official Staff CommunicationAs staff we should in fact have paid more attention to and done better with the initial thread, and that's something we've been agonizing over for days. We do usually moderate mental health topics much more vigilantly and that did not happen in this case. We regret that enormously and it's taken a personal toll on all of us.
We do not usually retroactively revisit old threads to issue a lot of bans, but this is an unprecedented situation and we feel it is both appropriate to correct a mistake and also the best way for the community to heal. We will be reviewing the thread again. We have to balance what was known at the time with what is never appropriate, but the bans will not be short.
At the end of the day we are a small team of volunteers trying to keep up with a massive community as best we can. We are members as well and we feel the same things you do.
You mean of course people repeatedly ignored everyone who is more familiar than they are with mental illness telling them that his behavior was an example of mental illness? Because, sure. That happened.
Thanks for doing that.Official Staff CommunicationAs staff we should in fact have paid more attention to and done better with the initial thread, and that's something we've been agonizing over for days. We do usually moderate mental health topics much more vigilantly and that did not happen in this case. We regret that enormously and it's taken a personal toll on all of us.
We do not usually retroactively revisit old threads to issue a lot of bans, but this is an unprecedented situation and we feel it is both appropriate to correct a mistake and also the best way for the community to heal. We will be reviewing the thread again. We have to balance what was known at the time with what is never appropriate, but the bans will not be short.
At the end of the day we are a small team of volunteers trying to keep up with a massive community as best we can. We are members as well and we feel the same things you do.
Thank you for looking into this.Official Staff CommunicationAs staff we should in fact have paid more attention to and done better with the initial thread, and that's something we've been agonizing over for days. We do usually moderate mental health topics much more vigilantly and that did not happen in this case. We regret that enormously and it's taken a personal toll on all of us.
We do not usually retroactively revisit old threads to issue a lot of bans, but this is an unprecedented situation and we feel it is both appropriate to correct a mistake and also the best way for the community to heal. We will be reviewing the thread again. We have to balance what was known at the time with what is never appropriate, but the bans will not be short.
At the end of the day we are a small team of volunteers trying to keep up with a massive community as best we can. We are members as well and we feel the same things you do.
I love this! Well said, thank you for sharing this perspective.If we take just one thing away from losing Etika, it should be this...let love be the driving force in all you do, every aspect of your life. Your words and your actions have consequences, in your life among your family, friends and world community, or online, behind a computer screen and anonymous, we need to show more love and empathy, all of us, to our fellow humans. I think that is what Etika wanted people to realize when he posted his final video. So next time you get all cozy behind your computer monitor, take a second to remember that you are talking to a real person with blood in their veins, a person you have no idea what they may be going through in their life.
It's like your mother used to say, "don't have something nice to say? keep your mouth shut" and "treat others how you would like to be treated"
LOVE MORE
Thank you.Official Staff CommunicationAs staff we should in fact have paid more attention to and done better with the initial thread, and that's something we've been agonizing over for days. We do usually moderate mental health topics much more vigilantly and that did not happen in this case. We regret that enormously and it's taken a personal toll on all of us.
We do not usually retroactively revisit old threads to issue a lot of bans, but this is an unprecedented situation and we feel it is both appropriate to correct a mistake and also the best way for the community to heal. We will be reviewing the thread again. We have to balance what was known at the time with what is never appropriate, but the bans will not be short.
At the end of the day we are a small team of volunteers trying to keep up with a massive community as best we can. We are members as well and we feel the same things you do.
Please.Thanks for doing that.
Would it also be possible to create a seperate discussion where the meta actions can be discussed so that this thread can serve it's primary purpose of mourning the tragic death of a person?
Official Staff CommunicationAs staff we should in fact have paid more attention to and done better with the initial thread, and that's something we've been agonizing over for days. We do usually moderate mental health topics much more vigilantly and that did not happen in this case. We regret that enormously and it's taken a personal toll on all of us.
We do not usually retroactively revisit old threads to issue a lot of bans, but this is an unprecedented situation and we feel it is both appropriate to correct a mistake and also the best way for the community to heal. We will be reviewing the thread again. We have to balance what was known at the time with what is never appropriate, but the bans will not be short.
At the end of the day we are a small team of volunteers trying to keep up with a massive community as best we can. We are members as well and we feel the same things you do.
Nice one.Official Staff CommunicationAs staff we should in fact have paid more attention to and done better with the initial thread, and that's something we've been agonizing over for days. We do usually moderate mental health topics much more vigilantly and that did not happen in this case. We regret that enormously and it's taken a personal toll on all of us.
We do not usually retroactively revisit old threads to issue a lot of bans, but this is an unprecedented situation and we feel it is both appropriate to correct a mistake and also the best way for the community to heal. We will be reviewing the thread again. We have to balance what was known at the time with what is never appropriate, but the bans will not be short.
At the end of the day we are a small team of volunteers trying to keep up with a massive community as best we can. We are members as well and we feel the same things you do.
Official Staff CommunicationAs staff we should in fact have paid more attention to and done better with the initial thread, and that's something we've been agonizing over for days. We do usually moderate mental health topics much more vigilantly and that did not happen in this case. We regret that enormously and it's taken a personal toll on all of us.
We do not usually retroactively revisit old threads to issue a lot of bans, but this is an unprecedented situation and we feel it is both appropriate to correct a mistake and also the best way for the community to heal. We will be reviewing the thread again. We have to balance what was known at the time with what is never appropriate, but the bans will not be short.
At the end of the day we are a small team of volunteers trying to keep up with a massive community as best we can. We are members as well and we feel the same things you do.
Official Staff CommunicationAs staff we should in fact have paid more attention to and done better with the initial thread, and that's something we've been agonizing over for days. We do usually moderate mental health topics much more vigilantly and that did not happen in this case. We regret that enormously and it's taken a personal toll on all of us.
We do not usually retroactively revisit old threads to issue a lot of bans, but this is an unprecedented situation and we feel it is both appropriate to correct a mistake and also the best way for the community to heal. We will be reviewing the thread again. We have to balance what was known at the time with what is never appropriate, but the bans will not be short.
At the end of the day we are a small team of volunteers trying to keep up with a massive community as best we can. We are members as well and we feel the same things you do.
Hi. Thank you. For what it's worth as someone who's dealt with suicidal feelings for years this means a lot.Official Staff CommunicationAs staff we should in fact have paid more attention to and done better with the initial thread, and that's something we've been agonizing over for days. We do usually moderate mental health topics much more vigilantly and that did not happen in this case. We regret that enormously and it's taken a personal toll on all of us.
We do not usually retroactively revisit old threads to issue a lot of bans, but this is an unprecedented situation and we feel it is both appropriate to correct a mistake and also the best way for the community to heal. We will be reviewing the thread again. We have to balance what was known at the time with what is never appropriate, but the bans will not be short.
At the end of the day we are a small team of volunteers trying to keep up with a massive community as best we can. We are members as well and we feel the same things you do.
Official Staff CommunicationAs staff we should in fact have paid more attention to and done better with the initial thread, and that's something we've been agonizing over for days. We do usually moderate mental health topics much more vigilantly and that did not happen in this case. We regret that enormously and it's taken a personal toll on all of us.
We do not usually retroactively revisit old threads to issue a lot of bans, but this is an unprecedented situation and we feel it is both appropriate to correct a mistake and also the best way for the community to heal. We will be reviewing the thread again. We have to balance what was known at the time with what is never appropriate, but the bans will not be short.
At the end of the day we are a small team of volunteers trying to keep up with a massive community as best we can. We are members as well and we feel the same things you do.
But he's not wrong, we did bully him and it was disgusting, another voice stamped out on the most ""liberal"" forum on the internet.
I can't imagine a world where I mock a depressed person who's clearly crying out in an episode of some sort but I'm also not a cowardly piece of dog shit who would do so for forum clout or to appear the "wokest". I'm not sure what to make of this situation other than that this place really needs to re-evaluate how they judge issues related to mental health because as it stands now ResetERA is 100% not a safe place to discuss it.
Official Staff CommunicationAs staff we should in fact have paid more attention to and done better with the initial thread, and that's something we've been agonizing over for days. We do usually moderate mental health topics much more vigilantly and that did not happen in this case. We regret that enormously and it's taken a personal toll on all of us.
We do not usually retroactively revisit old threads to issue a lot of bans, but this is an unprecedented situation and we feel it is both appropriate to correct a mistake and also the best way for the community to heal. We will be reviewing the thread again. We have to balance what was known at the time with what is never appropriate, but the bans will not be short.
At the end of the day we are a small team of volunteers trying to keep up with a massive community as best we can. We are members as well and we feel the same things you do.