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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT7| - nm
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After VR I'm all out of working on software for financially unsustainable platforms for a while. ;)
Define 'realistic'.
I fully expect you will only be able to play games from the internal SSDs. Games will be built around that.
Yeah seems that way, hence potentially having proprietary storage upgrade modules to reduce the amount of swapping games you'll need to do with external storage.
I wonder if they will allow some games to be ran off of external storage, as I'm sure most indie games won't need to run off the faster internal, and it could help reduce the amount of space used up in the internal storage. So they could have most AAA games requiring an on console install, but a tier of games where it's not a requirement.
I think the choice would be nice, although I figure we'll all get used to super fast game loading and want everything on the faster storage anyway after a while.
Imagine thinking PS5 and Scarlett have the shown the same info regarding next gen when the OP has 3 different sections of PS5 stuff (console, controller, OS) + tech demo + confirming design of devkit vs 1 section for Scarlett that mirrors similar info on console info with the exception of utilizing GDDR6 memory.
I think they need a big exclusive at launch, something like Breath of the Wild for the Switch. Of course, they don't need Halo Infinite to sell millions of Xbox during holidays 2020, but I think that the new Xbox will be better perceived if it has a great exclusive at launch, which will affect sales for more than the launch window.
The most important thing for a console is to be desirable for consumers. Wii U had a lot of amazing games, but they came too late, when everyone thought that the console was a failure. I think a launch in March 2021 with a major exclusive would be better for Microsoft than a launch in November 2020 without any big exclusive.
Not a chance, they do that and give sony a one year head start and they might as well kiss the next gen goodbye.
We know enough about what kinda speeds we should at least expect. What we don't know is how its real-world implementation will impact the next-gen consoles with regards to game design and QOL features. But we can guesstimate though.
If we look at the current-gen consoles and peg their peak HDD throughput at around 100MB/s (which they aren't) and we assume that with next-gen consoles we an average NVMe based SSD which sits at around 2GB/s (which everything so far suggests we will be getting much better than this), we can still put the SSD of the next-gen consoles at least 20x the performance of current-gen HDDs. I believe this is the absolute worst-case scenario we can expect.
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Dammit. Forgot about in C you need StrCmp() and all the stuff about pointers and null-terminated strings. I did not write code in C for 2 decades.
That whole presentation was such a disappointment to me,we saw virtually nothing,just some bland CGI :(
Thats to be expected, the real disappointment was seeing nothing since.
Hopefully TGA changes that
Thought no release date was announced yet. Was hoping it would be a next gen game.
In any sane modern language the comparison should be undefined, as lexicographic order for strings is locale specific rather than absolute. Even equality is complicated because different Unicode sequences can be canonically equivalent; different sequences of scalars can represent the same sequence of grapheme clusters.
I got an admin message to not further derail the thread. sniff. So I won't continue to discuss this very interesting topic ;)
And you and inpHilltr8r are right. It is undefined! Produces a syntax error!
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IIRC Insomniac said they had to design spoderman with a 20mb/s HDD as baseline just to make sure it worked well for everyone.
Ok, I thought more about it.
You said that its not necessary about tf numbers. So...what if your ">" sign is not a "greater-than" sign but an arrow. Meaning Xbox Scarlett before Playstation 5. So Xbox releasing before Playstation maybe?
Yes, I am bored xD
I got an admin message to not further derail the thread. sniff. So I won't continue to discuss this very interesting topic ;)
My expectations are low when it comes to specs. But I guess we will see next gen games a lot.
It was announced for current gen. And while it was just a CGI reveal, we got details about how this will be their most ambitious game yet and what not. Sekiro was just a B tier project with Elden being the title with the bulk of their efforts behind.
Bloodborne is my GotG, so I am super hyped for Elden.
I am considering waiting for PS5 for those technical boosts though. 🤔
None is further ahead when it comes to revealing stuff about their console. It seems like people think that having two long articles from WIRED is better than some minutes video at a conference.
We know that both are using Zen 2, Navi, SSD, hardware accelerated RT. We know of Halo Infinite and Bluepoint working on something. Minor differences will be Sony talking about their controller and Microsoft stating that they are going GDDR6. Outside that, we know nothing about clock speeds, RAM amount etc.
Can't wait to discover Elden Ring's writing is about as half-assed as Martin's writing in anything beyond ASoIaF.
Speaking of that Sony "catridge" patent we discussed the other day, i see that clickbait articles are already out and they are terrible:
Forget the PS5, Sony might be developing a different console unlike anything we've seen in years
Forget the PS5, Sony might be developing a different console unlike anything we've seen in years
Martin is highly regarded in pretty much everything he does. Vampire fans love Fever Dream as an example. Also my understanding was that Martin consulted on world building. The actual writing was left to the actual game writing pros.Can't wait to discover Elden Ring's writing is about as half-assed as Martin's writing in anything beyond ASoIaF.
They are basing their articles on the cartridge design and they forgot that PS5 will officially support UHD Bluray discs? Now, what if they know about the ejectable seats that anexanhume posted days ago that I todl him to hide? Thank God this wasn't widespread otehrwise you will see articles turning the PS5 into rollercoaster.
PSP 3 with PowerVR Furian architecture and PowerVR Wizard ray tracing tech.
It'll be several times more powerful than Switch.
calling it now.
It'll be several times more powerful than Switch.
calling it now.
We've also seen how much faster Spidey loads on the PS5 SSD solution
Could the cartridge just be a weird way of selling external SSDs so ppl can expand storage without compromising performance? If games are made with it in mind it may be required for PS5.
id love to see a PsP2/3 with a 7nm or 5nm AMD APU that approaches PS4 performance and if they could release a Switch size that played all PS4 games I'd say release it as PSP2/PS4 Portable but idk if that's possible for years
id love to see a PsP2/3 with a 7nm or 5nm AMD APU that approaches PS4 performance and if they could release a Switch size that played all PS4 games I'd say release it as PSP2/PS4 Portable but idk if that's possible for years
I wonder if Cerny is helping out with Spider-Man 2's development. He was involved with the first game.
Gotta love that, besides the absolutely humongous L3, a pretty large part of the Cores themselves are taken by SRAM cells.
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Damn Colbert, appears your opinions have a lot of weight and can be used as "rumors".
walking on eggshells :(
walking on eggshells :(
Ok, we talked about how lockheart was going to cripple and hidner the whole vision of next-gen for being the lowest common denomonator and thank God it was scrapped, but I am starting to think, if Stadia is considered a next-gen platform, will it have the same effect like Lockheart, knowing that it has an old architecture and no RT capabilities, no fast SSD and whatever defines the 2 next-gen consoles? Or will it have separate games devloped for it while next-gen consoles and capable PCs will be on another league, until maybe the second revision of Stadia comes?
Lots of new games getting revealed at X019 in a few days, ill be damned if none of them are Scarlett exclusive.
This would be really cool, and I think it would make the lack of info on the console itself forgivable.
However, I just can't see them revealing a next gen exclusive game for a system before revealing the system itself.
Maybe we'll at least get a name or two?
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