Drive club and Watch Dogs (3rd party) we're launch titles until shortly before launch
I get the speculation. But I underestimated how big the speculation would be. There seems a real thirst for the new consoles. Which I didn't see coming. Certainly when the graphics will not go forward very much if they want to go 4K.
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where have you been? the 12.9 tflops dream is dead.
Yeah it'll be interesting to see how they're tackling the new situation. Great games sell but without next gen exclusives the system launch will essentially be like the Pro and X launches and I don't think those set the world on fire, or did they?
I am a lot more optimistic about next-gen Playstation launch. I think Sony will be more "focused" with next-gen launch titles than they were with PS4. In 2013 they were still supporting Vita, and had exclusive titles coming for PS3 even after the launch of PS4 (Gran Turismo 6, Ratchet and Clank Into the Nexus).
That's for the best. I'm not getting a next gen console in the first year either. Gonna wait for the 1st revision to sort out any manufacturing problems if there's any.
Are you sure we'll have 10+ TF of GPU power in these consoles?
Dont think they would.
Yeah, but gutting the SSD would really gut what could be possible in terms of gameplay.
MS would need 48 CUs at 1.8 tflops to hit 11 tflops. That would make the GPU even bigger than 255mm2, no? the wcfftech site lists 40 CUs for the main Navi chip. the X1x was a 232mm2 chip in a die 350mm2 in size. I dont see how MS can add 20% more CUs without going above 280mm2 just for the GPU alone.
You go all in and crazy on the GPU and then there is only a 1TB SSD????? Disappointing for a #KrazyKenFridayPrediction aka #InsanityFridayPrediction
Exactly. Something as high as a 30% difference in GPU power will only translate to Native 4K vs 1800p, and at those resolutions that is near impossible t tell apart. This s why i think its just stupid for any platform to focus on being "the most powerful" even if that means they also end up being more expensive. Price parity and the games to me is far mo important. And be I MS or sony, they can have identically priced 4K consoles with one being able to still boast a 5%-10% power advantage over the other.
Can't dig in on the thread or the last one to get links.... but Some sony suit said something about how the PS4 will still be the primary driver well into the ex generation or something like that, then some MS guy apparently said there will be no next-gen exclusives or something.
Don't take my TF count seriously... I was just making an example. But yes your die space allocation estimates make sense and g in line with the assessment anexanhume made. But Its more likely to be a 48CU GPU with 4 disabled to give you 44CU for whichever platform holder goes with that config.
While I am leaning towards the unified pool thing too.... Yes, DDR4 is really that much less than GDDR6. It's less than half the price.
i see. so sony f'ed krazy ken by forcing the bluray on him and not giving him enough of a budget to use a decent gpu.
how is that nvidia's fault?
Read stories that Nvidia didn't let Sony customise the GPU, and screwed them over the pricing. Same thing happened with MS with the first Xbox, which is why they opted out with using Nvidia for the Xbox 360.
Well on One X they managed to put a 14nm 232mm2 + 4CU GPU on a 16nm APU.
Pretty sure the 360 had an Nvidia GPU.
hmm, indeed they did. Team 12 tflops back on track! Lets see if Cerny can work his magic.
i stand corrected.
Who knows, maybe Nvidia themselves learnt to play nice.
