This is some parallel universe level bullshit. All the Playstation consoles were the best the technology could have gotten you at the time of release for a reasonably priced console. You have no idea what you are talking about...
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread - MY ANACONDA DON'T WANT NONE
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This is some parallel universe level bullshit. All the Playstation consoles were the best the technology could have gotten you at the time of release for a reasonably priced console. You have no idea what you are talking about...
Power PC architecture wasn't the issue it was the cell cpu itself and it's shit documentation. But yea, the tech was still really good for something that came out in 2006 and lasted until 2012-2013.
What would be the point of that?
Microsoft can also "bag" some big third party game.
Like, really? What's even the point of that speculation?
I think Ray tracing will be used sparingly where it makes sense.
At 9.50 in the video below he says Ray tracing is not always needed E. G you ray trace water reflection, but RT reflection is not necessary on a rock texture because the reflection is low detail.
Also there is a lot of progress still to be made using rasterisation, this video below has no ray tracing.
Bungie have partnered with NetEase. They don't need any "development resource support".
Microsoft have worked with Insomniac, From Software and Capcom on exclusives. After all, all it takes is just an agreement on what the project is and how much money is changing hands.
I think that the games we see from Microsoft in the launch will be Halo Infinite, Forza 8, something from Ninja Theory if it does not launch before the console launch, a third party title.
Sounds plausible.
You think Ms will have a 3rd party make a scarlett launch exclusive?
If MS was alone they could price them however they wanted, but if they come out at $399/$599 the party at Sony's Headquarters would last for months :P
I think 2 SKU's can work, but not at those prices you suggested.
Budget SKU? OK, but $399 is not budget. $199/$299 is the price you're looking for.
Premium SKU? OK, but $599 is too expensive to be meaningful in any way other than PR, specially agains a $399/$499 PS5 with the same CPU, an SSD, RT, fast RAM etc.
I mean it has nothing to do with those examples you posted, is all about perceived value here, and getting the price just right.
I doubt that will be how Sony does things with PS4 to PS5. It will be no different than PS3 to PS4, with the exception of backwards compatibility.
PS5 versions of those games will be separate releases, not patches/updates, IMO.
4K texture upgrades wont fit in a PS4 disc so itll have to be downloaded, maybe at a small cost $5??
Huh? That's a weirdly redundant question. I mean what is the point of any speculation.
Bungie no longer have Activision's other helper studio to assist with development, and a first party's marketing muscle can make a big difference for an indie developer.
There are many reasons why studios like Bungie might sign exclusive deals with MS or Sony.
I don't understand why you seem so offended by a bit of harmless speculation, and the "MS too" line really isn't necessary. MS could sign equally as surprising exclusive deals and me saying that Sony can doesn't imply i'm saying MS can't.
Chill out a bit, Welfare.
Yeah and it's dumb as fuck. I love Sonys first party games. I did double dip on a few they released from prior generations. But with BC coming to the ps5 for ps4, that is just down right anti consumer. Knowing MS will do this with their frost party games will make it look like a bad money grab.
Jeez that would be terrible. I pop Xbox original games like kotor into my x and get tons of enhancements. Same for 360 games and normal one games.
Xbox gonna snag that From Software exclusive for launch.
I like this game :)
Project Gotham Racing 3, Condemned Criminal Origins, Ridge Racer 6 were all exclusive to the Xbox 360 launch.
The Xbox One got Ryse: Son of Rome, Dead Rising 3 and Titanfall coming within launch window.
A lot of the studios they bought are not in position to put out games in the first year or two in my opinion. They would have to rely on some third party support before those studios are in position to consistently put out games. In any case, this is something that they have done with every console they have launched.
It was rumoured that ms is buying even more studios so maybe we will see something from them.
They'll be backwards compatible with some improvements thanks to PS5, but to get Raytracing, improved character models, better textures, better environments, that's gonna take extra work and a remaster will definitely be on the cards.
And many will gladly double dip if the improvements are big enough.
I doubt anything will be shown for launch of the new console, unless those said development teams were deep into developing something. I would assume that any game that is targeting launch has been in development for some time.
Intersection tests for rays would likely be narrowed down by evaluating a volume hierarchy first, and individual surface intersection would be the final stage. Culling would eliminate surfaces facing away from the origin of the ray being tested, not those facing away from the camera.
Both cases don't work in that way. 100 dollars / Euro are always enough to make flip part of the buyers......and most part of the market but the cheaper console of the gen ...this gen with mid refreshes should tell you everything
Didn't both of them do that for PS4 and x1.both talked specs and showed consoles later at e3 .
Wow us with a fps ? U mean graphically? Really for how much great is HZD ...last Killzone was so boring that I never played more than 30 mins I tried to go in 5 or 6 times but nothing ....and It was my first title of this gen
I hope they will give up on fps or at least on KZ
Destiny 3 is just random. That's the point. You won't see a massive third party IP turn exclusive next gen. It's like the speculation that Sony will buy Take Two or Microsoft buys EA, to me.
Something like Sony contracting a third party for a new IP can very likely happen, like Bloodborne or Ryse with MS. Something massive like Destiny is on the scale of speculating if Call of Duty goes exclusive.
PS4 didn't show the console but xbox one did.
I think this E3 will be about xcloud and similar info song gave on PS5 and maybe a next gen teaser.
I think full unviels will be closer to launch.
Sorry let's agree to disagree ..no..Sony never been looking to be a "powerhouse" ....u til the ps3 ...and it was basically in par with the x360
As I said I know that I'll not make you change idea....so let's close here ..this is not the right thread for this
Yes they were. They crammed the best technology they could afford at the time for the PS, PS2, PSP VITA and PS4, given the price point. This is not up for debate, really. The PS3 plan to include a Raserizer did not pan out, so they had to fall back on Nvidia, but the idea was, just like for any other of their consoles, having the best performing machine at launch. Every console manufacturer, throughout the history of the medimum, including the pre Wii Nintendo, aimed to launch great pieces of hardware. What are you on?
I dunno... I feel like for games made after a certain period they would already be doing that work already. I think studios have come a long way in how forward-thinking they are in their engines & asset production than we are giving them credit for.
It's quite common for modern game asset creation to be made high and scaled down for perf reasons. Maybe not as much in older generations, but definitely for this gen where developers are making games to scale from XB1 all the way up to top tier PCs with multi-GPUs. Third party studios that need their game to be in multiple platforms definitely have engines and asset pipelines that can already scale.
And I'm sure I could be wrong, but I heavily doubt any of Sony's first or second parties won't have already been considering "what comes next" from as far back as the PS4 Pro. Same for MS and their studios working on games that would ship on both base XB1 & 1X. The only unaccounted for variable on that is probably RT.
Ya that makes sense. It was interesting she specifically didn't mention ms this time, but E3 is so close.
I actually think Microsoft might show Halo running on "simulated next-gen hardware" at E3 this year. It would be a huge risk, but we're really in uncharted territory with the idea that we will have seen Halo: Infinite at two E3s before the lead console for the software is even formally unveiled. Yes, it will be on Xbox One, but it is clearly designed, in my opinion, to be a Scarlett showpiece.
They should only show halo infinite on scarlett if its a big upgrade over current gen
I think they would be better of showing a clip of forza 8 and wowing people with next gen racing visuals, with hopefully full 3d crowds!
Guys, imagine a next-gen Monster Hunter World in which there's a lot more environmental interaction, complex physics & animations, monsters can slip and fall as they're chasing you or vice-versa. An Anjanath could run and slip right into the side of a cliff or hill, where rocks don't just break apart and disappear but smoothly come crashing down. It would be a whole new level of interaction, animation, physics. Would only be possible because of the massive leap in CPU.
From GDC 2018 - the 2015 MHW prototype
From GDC 2018 - the 2015 MHW prototype
In ign filtered interview, Bonnie Ross said the technical director will give a presentation at E3 of the new technology.
Cool.
I don't think they will be like, "this is scarlett graphics"
They will talk about the tech not the platform differences of next gen.
Not sure if this has been posted but 3D Realms dev's claim that the PS5/Xbox 2 is much faster then Google's 10.7tf Stadia. Article:
https://screenrant.com/google-stadia-playstation-5-xbox-power-comparison/
If this is all true (my guess is that it's true) then next gen consoles will be beasts in terms of performance.
https://screenrant.com/google-stadia-playstation-5-xbox-power-comparison/
If this is all true (my guess is that it's true) then next gen consoles will be beasts in terms of performance.
I hope those are very very big improvements then and more than what you listed there.
It seems that no one can prove XBOX will be more powerful. Who can say it is less possible that PS5 is most powerful?.
What game is it?
He might be talking about the fact they are not streamed.
I mean to be a lot more powerful then stadia, is what? Double?
That would mean 20tflop gpu, 32gb ram.
From what we heard about Navi more then 13tflops just does not seem possible in consoles.
Project awakening, one of the first AAA projects made by cygames. However it is still very early.
I never said that there will be a budget sku.
Thats your imagination and conclusion what lockhart will be.
So and therefor 399 would be fine for me.
Too expensive, too expensive is not really convincing me as an argument.
Please enlight me, but not that way.
Justify your opinion otherwise it won't change mine.
And i think you didn't understand my post at all because the main questioning is why such prices are not accepted when they are accepted with nearly every other product.
I got that feeling that most gamers are narrow minded when it comes to gaming
My bet is that Sony snatches this up as an exclusive early PS5 titles.
It's PS4 only at this time. Would not surprise me if it is cross-gen in the same vein as Sony's first party games.
As for the topic, I am excited to see just how fast these loading times will be for PS5 games. Making the PS4 games load extremely fast is always nice, but I wonder how it will go for PS5 games.
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