Oh shit you're right. Don't know why I mixed the years/teams up. How could I forget the Tatum dunk on Lebron. š¤£
Oh shit you're right. Don't know why I mixed the years/teams up. How could I forget the Tatum dunk on Lebron. š¤£
Melvin: You mentioned staying healthy and the COVID vaccine. Are you at all concerned about the protocols?
Jordan: Not at all. Not at all. I am total in unison with the league. And I think everybody, you know, has been speaking about the vaccinations. And, you know, I'm a firm believer in science and, you know, I'm going to stick with that and hopefully everybody abides by whatever the league sets the rules. I think once everybody buys in, we're going the be fine.
It doesn't matter how good you are, if you can't play half of your games, then you might as well be watching all of them at home.
Didn't Kyrie already get Covid? If he did, he shouldn't have to get the vaccine. I find it funny that everyone screams TRUST THE SCIENCE but then is happy to ignore it when players that already had Covid would prefer not to get the vaccine, as was the case with Wiggins. What do all these "scientists" thinks the vaccine does?
Of course, if he's never had covid and doesn't want to get the vaccine he's a dumbass.
Good lord it has being said a million times that you should 100% still get the vaccine even if you had covid. This is isnt a game.Didn't Kyrie already get Covid? If he did, he shouldn't have to get the vaccine. I find it funny that everyone screams TRUST THE SCIENCE but then is happy to ignore it when players that already had Covid would prefer not to get the vaccine, as was the case with Wiggins. What do all these "scientists" thinks the vaccine does?
Of course, if he's never had covid and doesn't want to get the vaccine he's a dumbass.
MJ on his GOAT shit lol. Fuck man this is a crazy time. Glad hes with it. Hes in the know esp helping build some community health centers.Goat talk:
Michael Jordan endorses NBA's handling of COVID-19 vaccine: 'I'm a firm believer in science'
MJ has no issues with the NBA's COVID-19 protocols.sports.yahoo.com
Oh shit you're right. Don't know why I mixed the years/teams up. How could I forget the Tatum dunk on Lebron. š¤£
You can survive one round of covid and die from the second one. Delta has been killing people who have had covid prior. the vaccination plus surviving covid is the most ideal, not just saying BUT MAH NATURAL IMMUNITY.Didn't Kyrie already get Covid? If he did, he shouldn't have to get the vaccine. I find it funny that everyone screams TRUST THE SCIENCE but then is happy to ignore it when players that already had Covid would prefer not to get the vaccine, as was the case with Wiggins. What do all these "scientists" thinks the vaccine does?
Of course, if he's never had covid and doesn't want to get the vaccine he's a dumbass.
You can survive one round of covid and die from the second one. Delta has been killing people who have had covid prior. the vaccination plus surviving covid is the most ideal, not just saying BUT MAH NATURAL IMMUNITY.
Could be forever to just a few months Depending on the circumstances and if its a different enough variant could be less.As someone who already had covid back in July after being vaccinated, how long do you think my immunity would last? Does anyone have an average?
Didn't Kyrie already get Covid? If he did, he shouldn't have to get the vaccine. I find it funny that everyone screams TRUST THE SCIENCE but then is happy to ignore it when players that already had Covid would prefer not to get the vaccine, as was the case with Wiggins. What do all these "scientists" thinks the vaccine does?
Of course, if he's never had covid and doesn't want to get the vaccine he's a dumbass.
Uhhhh, what science says people who have had Covid don't need the vaccine? You don't automatically get antibodies by getting Covid. That's not a given whatsoever.
Didn't Kyrie already get Covid? If he did, he shouldn't have to get the vaccine. I find it funny that everyone screams TRUST THE SCIENCE but then is happy to ignore it when players that already had Covid would prefer not to get the vaccine, as was the case with Wiggins. What do all these "scientists" thinks the vaccine does?
Of course, if he's never had covid and doesn't want to get the vaccine he's a dumbass.
what reputable science tells you not to get the vaccine if you've already had Covid? You doin your own research too?
I am informing myself from as many trustworthy sources as possible, guess that counts as "doin' my own research". Most reputable scientists are recommending 1 dose of vaccine for people who've had Covid. 1 dose would in effect NOT meet the criteria for Kyrie to play, unless it was J&J.
People are very comfortable treating "THE VACCINE" as if it was some monolith, when in fact there is quite a wide degree of difference between something like Pfizer with 90+% protection against infection and J&J which is in the 70% range. People don't really care that Kyrie (or whoever) is protected against covid to the highest degree possible, what they care about is that he obeys the mandate because it's the mandate.
If it's about highest protection why not mandate boosters if it's been more than x time since your vaccination? Why not mandate Pfizer and Moderna only? Why not mandate antibody tests so that if your antibodies fall below a some detectable level you need to get re-vaccinated? There exist an infinite number of additional requirements that could be created to maximize protection. Since it's not about maximizing protection, and we're making no distinction between vaccines with wildly varying efficacy, then why should someone with prior infection not count the same as someone who was vaccinated?
I am informing myself from as many trustworthy sources as possible, guess that counts as "doin' my own research". Most reputable scientists are recommending 1 dose of vaccine for people who've had Covid. 1 dose would in effect NOT meet the criteria for Kyrie to play, unless it was J&J.
People are very comfortable treating "THE VACCINE" as if it was some monolith, when in fact there is quite a wide degree of difference between something like Pfizer with 90+% protection against infection and J&J which is in the 70% range. People don't really care that Kyrie (or whoever) is protected against covid to the highest degree possible, what they care about is that he obeys the mandate because it's the mandate.
If it's about highest protection why not mandate boosters if it's been more than x time since your vaccination? Why not mandate Pfizer and Moderna only? Why not mandate antibody tests so that if your antibodies fall below a some detectable level you need to get re-vaccinated? There exist an infinite number of additional requirements that could be created to maximize protection. Since it's not about maximizing protection, and we're making no distinction between vaccines with wildly varying efficacy, then why should someone with prior infection not count the same as someone who was vaccinated?
People don't really care that Kyrie (or whoever) is protected against covid to the highest degree possible, what they care about is that he obeys the mandate because it's the mandate.
I mean, a lot of what you're saying is just outright wrong.
Many scientists are recommending "at least" 1 dose of the vaccine, not "only" 1 dose for those who have had COVID. While one dose may well be enough for those who have had COVID, a second dose is not going to hurt anyone.
Regardless, all Kyrie needs is one dose. The New York mandate only requires you to have received one dose. Not be fully vaccinated. So you're flat out wrong that this would not "meet the criteria". Some other states/locations require the full vaccination, but all of those would be allowing him to get tested as an alternative. He'd be able to play. While one dose may not be ideal for many, it is very possible that this exception was put in place specifically because many people are choosing only one after having had COVID.
The reason the NBA wants everyone to be vaccinated is so they can get as close to normal as possible in these times. After nearly two years of COVID, that's what most people want, to get life closer to normal. Antibody testing everyone regularly is a long way from that, and quite frankly isn't really needed to manage things at this point with so many being vaccinated.
Every vaccination, including Johnson & Johnson, has shown stronger results in many studies than natural infection alone.
MJ's psycho ass would've probably beat the shit out of Kyrie if this happened and they were on the same team tbhGoat talk:
Michael Jordan endorses NBA's handling of COVID-19 vaccine: 'I'm a firm believer in science'
MJ has no issues with the NBA's COVID-19 protocols.sports.yahoo.com
The nuts thing about all of this is that I bet Kyrie, deep down, really thinks he's some kind of martyr, when in reality the fact that he (potentially) missed a season or more for THIS reason, of all reasons, is going to age so fucking poorly. Like imagine in 10 years when Kyrie Irving's entire legacy is "Oh yeah that guy missed an entire season because he refused to get vaccinated during a pandemic that killed tens of millions of people". He's going to look like an even bigger dumbs as time goes on.
There's been reports that Kyrie says he will retire if he's traded. Similar to Rob Gronkowski a few years ago when he threatened to retire if traded, essentially making it impossible to make a deal happen.
Oh fuck. Shit. Not a strong immune response to the vaccine! Damn. Here I was hoping I didn't get ANY immune response to the vaccine or at least a weak one so I can get COVID next month.Many scientists are recommending only one dose, if for no other reason, because having a second dose after already having a first + covid can result in a having a bad time / very strong immune response to the second dose.
Nah. We know exactly who Kyrie is. A very talented player who is a selfish dumbass.
Why aren't the (thankfully few) people defending this shit and spewing vaccine misinformation catching bans.
You can't call someone a fucking moron on this forum for spewing vaccine misinformation, but spreading misinformation is cool. LUL
This is flatout false and pure misinformation.Many scientists are recommending only one dose, if for no other reason, because having a second dose after already having a first + covid can result in a having a bad time / very strong immune response to the second dose.