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NBC News: Biden hopes to avoid divisive investigations of Trump, "just wants to move on" and prefers unity; Plans to not interfere with the DOJ
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I'm not falling for trump going to prison unless he is really going to prison.
Let's see what NY has
Let's see what NY has
As unfortunate as it may be, there is some sense to this. It honestly risks keeping Trump relevant and in the forefront of the news when Biden is trying to accomplish other things. Let states like New York do their thing without the political fallout that may occur if it comes from the Biden administration. Biden can avoid being able to be painted as going on a political "witch hunt", which would play into the right wing narrative ("Oh, they stole the election and now they're coming after conservatives")
That was my takeaway too. That Biden also said that he won't interfere with whatever the Justice Department wants to do, plus any state charges that may await Trump in New York, show that Trump may be wrapped up in legal battles for the next few years or so.
Lmao this first page is full of apologists. A lot of you call Trump a fascist and say things like "Mango Mussolini", but he shouldn't be prosecuted federally because???? Which is it? Is he an existential threat or not? Some of ya'll just really wanna go back to brunch.
Fuck that.
Ah yes, the let powerful corrupt assholes get away with it doctrine totally served us well and definitely helped reduce partisanship....
I don't think Biden personally should be the one to chase it, as it will just add to the cult of MAGA's persecution complex over Trump and their desire to martyr him as some kind of political prisoner...
However there should 100% be some high level investigations into Trump, his family, the businesses, sexual assault cases and whatever else that was being suppressed while he was president and protected.
However there should 100% be some high level investigations into Trump, his family, the businesses, sexual assault cases and whatever else that was being suppressed while he was president and protected.
No, Biden mentioned he's not going to pardon Trump. What he's not gonna do is press the DOJ to investigate Trump or call them off if they decide to do that on their own. This is as things should be.
I understand not investigating what has happened while he was sitting President, as that seems to be the role of the House and Senate (and leads to nothing as we saw already). But if he is going to ask the DoJ to stop any investigations that are feom things prior to Trump becoming President, I think this is a horrible idea. There is no reason why there should not be investigations on crimes commited before January 20, 2017, as otherwise it just means that once you become President you are immune to criminal prosecution, which is shitty precedant to set.
I hope that is the case. IRS investigations should continue, along with States using their rights to prosecute.
"But the most important thing on this is that he will not interfere with his Justice Department and not politicize his Justice Department."
Some of y'all need to learn how to read before you react.
This was always going to happen. A sitting president directing members of his staff to prosecutes a very popular former president...I cannot see how this could possible come back to bite you in the ass
Some of y'all need to learn how to read before you react.
This was always going to happen. A sitting president directing members of his staff to prosecutes a very popular former president...I cannot see how this could possible come back to bite you in the ass
There are so many priorities that he should be focusing his time on, so I get it.
the House, DOJ and State AGs on the other hand can and should go crazy with the investigations.
the House, DOJ and State AGs on the other hand can and should go crazy with the investigations.
If there's anything America hates more than truth, it's reconciliation.
Far easier to have a negative peace full of empty unity than actually do the difficult work of seeking justice.
Far easier to have a negative peace full of empty unity than actually do the difficult work of seeking justice.
He should be prosecuted and held accountable for his crimes. That doesn't require Biden to make prosecuting him a personal, Presidency-defining crusade.
Biden is in a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation. Just in this thread, liberals want justice for the things the orange clown did. But the right would see it as e witch hunt confirming trump distorted view that everyone is working to get him. Even if things brought against him are fair.
The country is very divided and throwing trump in prison will further the divide. While some people seem to ignore this divide, at some point it will turn into something very dangerous. It's why biden wants to avoid it. He wants to work to fix the country and not make the presidency about trump. Which would be ideal for trump after he leaves office imo as it will keep him in the spot light. The state attorney general would still go after him.
The country is very divided and throwing trump in prison will further the divide. While some people seem to ignore this divide, at some point it will turn into something very dangerous. It's why biden wants to avoid it. He wants to work to fix the country and not make the presidency about trump. Which would be ideal for trump after he leaves office imo as it will keep him in the spot light. The state attorney general would still go after him.
No, and he's not preventing others from investigating and/or prosecuting him. He's just not going to push for it himself.
It really is the best move and looks far less vengeful this way. There will be a line of people looking to make Trump pay, so focusing on the country over Trump is a good thing.
Isnt this exactly whatJoe is doing? By saying this he is getting involved in the decisions DoJ is making.
You all know
Is a really important sentence, yeah? The story isn't that Biden's administration won't prosecute Trump, it's that Biden will not interfere with whatever the DoJ decides to do. Which means a federal prosecution is possible, but won't be at the orders of Biden.
Unless you all want the Biden version of the Saturday Night Massacre or Bill Barr?
Is a really important sentence, yeah? The story isn't that Biden's administration won't prosecute Trump, it's that Biden will not interfere with whatever the DoJ decides to do. Which means a federal prosecution is possible, but won't be at the orders of Biden.
Unless you all want the Biden version of the Saturday Night Massacre or Bill Barr?
We're saying Biden doesn't make that call. Not directly. And that's how it's supposed to be, because the office of the Presidency is explicitly politicized, whereas the FBI and DOJ are (supposed to be) neutral.
Look, we all know he said he wouldn't get in the way of investigations. But if he's signaling this, it's a step removed from that. He needs to clarify his position, because the last thing that will heal this country is letting this administration get away with what it's done, and still doing.
If all else fails, there's still the state charges, but if Biden really goes down this path it sets a terrible tone for his presidency already.
If all else fails, there's still the state charges, but if Biden really goes down this path it sets a terrible tone for his presidency already.
For the sake of the rule of law and democracy, the past 4 years will have to be thoroughly investigated.
That's not true. There's always the danger of another Trump around the corner, regardless of what happens to the one we have. Think about it, has any conviction in history have ever truly deterred other bad actors from committing similar crimes? You cannot eradicate corruption. The only way forward is to continue to educate the voter base.
Hey, like it or not, Trump appeals to millions of people. It's better to make him old news than continue to focus the country's attention on him.
I thought it was understood - even in other threads in this forum - that the Federal govt wasn't supposed to be doing anything explicitly, but instead NYS?
Why is there any controversy in not having the Federal govt go after Trump?
Why is there any controversy in not having the Federal govt go after Trump?
I'm disappointed by how this phrasing works, but I totally disagree with this. I don't think Biden will pardon Trump or anyone associated with him.
so let him stay out of it, biden himself can stay relatively quiet on the topic, sure. keep him out of it
other people will be spearheading the legal proceedings
make someone else the face of that work
there must be accountability
biden himself can take a step back from that but it should proceed regardless
doesnt make sense for him to be personally involved anyway
other people will be spearheading the legal proceedings
make someone else the face of that work
there must be accountability
biden himself can take a step back from that but it should proceed regardless
doesnt make sense for him to be personally involved anyway
State AGs too.
I'm strongly against the idea of Biden getting personally involved in any of this.
Honestly, Biden has way more pressing issues when he gets into office. The health crisis and economic crisis (in that order) will be huge mountains to climb,. The best thing he can do is let things playout for Trump as they will.
Let the states do their thing and we can stop giving Trump the attention he craves. The worst thing for him is to be ignored and forgotten.
Trump will be wrecked by divorce (that's coming), the state of NY going after him and his whole family, massive debt collections, his foreign interests that he let down.. etc, etc. His world is going to crash down FAST.