I'm not upset about the spoilers itself. I'm showing sympathy for the team. They've gone through hell to make this game and the fact that it leaks in the final stretches must be extremely disheartening.
Seriously wtf is up with this thread. So many obnoxiously condescending replies. God forbid people show sympathy.
There's no ethical justification for leaking something your colleagues have worked tirelessly towards.
Now is a good time to start using a video blocker and backlist some keywords on twitter/tweetdeck
what i use is
Video Blocker
Unspoiler
Unspoiler
Don't let the internet spoil your TV! Block headlines, tweets, facebook posts and everything with Unspoiler.chrome.google.com
tweetdeck and the twitter site don't sync your mute list so make sure to do it twice.
here's my list
It's too bad major gaming websites encourage the spread and discussion of these leaks.
I fully support unionization and better work conditions, but you still have an employment contract that I'm sure has terms about breaking NDAs and such. Professionalism is still key.Game dev careers average well under 10 years because the industry is terrible and abusive. It's just a constant churn through college kids. And Naughty Dog is one of the worst offenders. I was going to say something about this being a "dirty secret", but it's not even a secret anymore. Game companies should probably get their act together, treat people better, cause this is an inspiring act of sabotage, and I doubt it'll be the last.
I hope not.
Do we know who leaked it? I'd like to hear their side of the story.Even if ND has the worst place to work on earth, no one should leak the game like that. That person just destroyed all ND employees and people who wanted to experience the game too.
I think defending that leaker isn't much different than defending crunch...
It would help on here if spoiler threads were banned until a game is actually released.
Not a 100%. If you want to avoid the spoiler thread you can PM and I can confirm/deny what is and isn't true or ask in the spoiler thread without reading what was written.
That person fucked over his own co-workers. The issue with crunch needs to be addressed and not ignored but there is no justification for hurting your own co-workers who are in the same position as you because you're unhappy with your work conditions.
Don't read any tweet comment section or social media comment section from Sony, naughty dog, etc
I'd also say twitch x YouTube channels/videos
every post will be filled with spoilers
People are inside, bored and love to troll so it's not a good mix
Go to your Notifications tab.How do those block certain words things work? Might want to start using one for myself.
Supposedly a QA tester that wasn't being paid at all.Was it a disgruntled employee? I was hearing stuff about something like on Twitter.
It really does suck for many. Now it's a social media and Youtube minefield to navigate.
That's certainly a take and a half.I think defending that leaker isn't much different than defending crunch...
Not a 100%. If you want to avoid the spoiler thread you can PM and I can confirm/deny what is and isn't true or ask in the spoiler thread without reading what was written.
Just not doing that stuff here because I don't want people getting spoiled.
Not everyone thinks someone should be jailed, sued into poverty (if he's not already) and beaten to a pulp because he leaked the details to what equates to an expensive toy. Crazy, I know.
Sure but it's not just about spoilers. It's leaking a game that multiple people worked hard on and runining it for millions of people.Spoilers sucks.
But so do awful working conditions.
That's certainly a take and a half.
People are actually defending a company cheating an employee out of $$?
The rumour is they weren't paid and that's why they did it. I can understand the other employees being upset by the leak but I can also understand the attitufe of "fuck them, they broke their contract, why should I stick to my end" when you don't get paid during a pandemic. There's a time when you just get so broken. I do feel really sorry for the other devs but Naughty Dog's work practices have been an industry open secret for years, it sounds inevitable that they were going to break someone this far at some point, especially when they've had years to change. Mostly really angry at Sony and Naughty Dog leadership that caused the situation in the first place. It shouldn't have come to this.I fully support unionization and better work conditions, but you still have an employment contract that I'm sure has terms about breaking NDAs and such.
No luck with Video Blocker. Added a couple of keywords, but they still show up? Or are subbed channels exempt?Now is a good time to start using a video blocker and backlist some keywords on twitter/tweetdeck
what i use is
Video Blocker
Unspoiler
Unspoiler
Don't let the internet spoil your TV! Block headlines, tweets, facebook posts and everything with Unspoiler.chrome.google.com
tweetdeck and the twitter site don't sync your mute list so make sure to do it twice.
here's my list
You do realise they didn't leak state secrets right
Not everyone thinks someone should be jailed, besten, sued into poverty (if he's not already) and beaten to a pulp because he leaked the details to what equates to an expensive toy. Crazy, I know.
Damn. Not even getting paid. Wow.The rumour is they weren't paid and that's why they did it. I can understand the other employees being upset by the leak but I can also understand the attitufe of "fuck them, they broke their contract, why should I stick to my end" when you don't get paid during a pandemic. There's a time when you just get so broken. I do feel really sorry for the other devs but Naughty Dog's work practices have been an industry open secret for years, it sounds inevitable that they were going to break someone this far at some point, especially when they've had years to change. Mostly really angry at Sony and Naughty Dog leadership that caused the situation in the first place. It shouldn't have come to this.
Yeah same. I was reading a random wario64 tweet and saw shit. I'm disappointed I was spoiled but the experience is what ultimately matters.Yeah I was reading Benji & ZhugeEx sales tweets about unrelated shit and got mega spoiled.
Oh well, out of context plot points won't make or break the experience for me. It's not like a 2 hour movie; there are 20+ hours of gameplay surrounding those spoilers to put them in context, and most of my enjoyment from games comes from playing them rather than hearing specific plot points. Still, people suck
Not everyone thinks someone should be jailed, sued into poverty (if he's not already) and beaten to a pulp because he leaked the details to what equates to an expensive toy. Crazy, I know.
They just leaked the work of 4 years of 300+ developers, nothing relevant
If they aren't being paid then ND/Sony broke the contract firstI fully support unionization and better work conditions, but you still have an employment contract that I'm sure has terms about breaking NDAs and such. Professionalism is still key.