True but the point still remains...it wasn't surprising at all though.
Why are you so insistent on defend NASCAR over everything else? That seems to be your number one priority in this thread.
.How does it make sense to vilify an entire entity because one person associated with it said a racist slur?
Would he be allowed to drive NASCAR if he didn't say the n-word? That's the real question.
Because this site is being hypocritical about what it stands for by saying blanket statements about a group of people. It offends me that people think that I'm racist because I like the racing in NASCAR.Why are you so insistent on defend NASCAR over everything else? That seems to be your number one priority in this thread.
Who gives a fuck is a major corporation, just like any other sports league. I stopped watching NFL after how they handled black players kneeling and the fans reactions.
great post and sums it up perfectly. i don't think most owners/drivers would say this sort of thing (At least i hope not!) and this young driver may just be an entitled idiot edgelord gamer who's using it more in that vain. but regardless there's no excuse for it, and he should get the full brunt of criticism for his stupidity. And he really did the sport a disservice with this shit. You already had this undercurrent of skepticism by many people and this only makes people feel more unwelcome.Look, I know you feel for some reason like you're on trial for watching and enjoying NASCAR, but you're not. Pretty much everyone knows that not everyone who participates in or watches NASCAR is a racist. However, given the comparative amount of confederate and MAGA flags waving at NASCAR events compared to every other sport in America, I think it's unreasonable to deny that there's a significantly stronger relationship between NASCAR and racism than other American sports. And regardless of where the drivers come from it's a cultural thing that pervades the environment of NASCAR.
It might be easy to ignore the writhing mass of hatred in and around the stands of a race when you're watching on TV, but when you're actually attending all of those events you have to be willing to tolerate it constantly. And given the permissive attitude toward racism at its venues by NASCAR, it shouldn't be surprising to learn that many of the staff, drivers, mechanics, etc. are drawn to the sport because of the miasma of racism that surrounds it. Remember, it's not just non-fans who view NASCAR as being a bastion of racism. Many people became fans because it's a bastion of racism.
He will be driving the My Pillow car next season
Why are you so insistent on defend NASCAR over everything else? That seems to be your number one priority in this thread.
Because this site is being hypocritical about what it stands for by saying blanket statements about a group of people. It offends me that people think that I'm racist because I like the racing in NASCAR.
great post and sums it up perfectly. i don't think most owners/drivers would say this sort of thing (At least i hope not!) and this young driver is just an idiot edgelord gamer using it more in that vain, and he should get the full brunt of criticism for this. And he really did the sport a disservice with this shit. You already had this undercurrent of skepticism by many people and this only makes people feel more unwelcome.
as you said, it's one thing to watch on tv and engage online but you go to most any NASCAR event and I'd imagine it's not a very welcoming environment for minorities, unfortunately. And that's really it. As long as that overtly contentious fandom, which permeates the sport, is tolerated, they will be unable to successfully build bridges to outsiders looking to become involved. No minority wants to willingly be inundated with confederate flags, MAGA hats and Trump worship.
Some NASCAR driver even dropped the n word on an interview a few years back.So up until today then? Because this has never happened before.
hell if you listen to the in car audio feeds during races the drivers and crew often swear up a storm between each other, and yet funnily none have so far been heard to say a racial slur.
Who? And what was the result?Some NASCAR driver even dropped the n word on an interview a few years back.
yikes.Woah, no way
Kyle Larson tweets his favorite NFL team is 'any one that stands'
Larson answered a fan question about his favorite NFL team in an impromptu Twitter Q&A.sports.yahoo.com
No one is blaming any Nascar fans on here at all, at least I'm not. And i'm a Nascar fan too! I'd love to go to Bristol one day, especially for a night race.Some of these posts are terrible drive by generalization posts. Generalization/Stereotyping is the bedfellow of racism itself. Not the same but similar.
This.
So don't blame us when we both rage at Larson for what he did AND the people making these generalization posts. We are trying to fight the stereotype and be a positive influence in a dark spot.
Quality post.
Pretty fucking telling that no one on the stream is shocked. Just "Hey, we're currently broadcasting."
NASCAR suspends Larson indefinitely
NASCAR suspends Kyle Larson indefinitely
Chip Ganassi Racing driver Kyle Larson has been indefinitely suspended from NASCAR following his use of a racial slur during an iRacing event Sunday night.m.nascar.com
I'm hoping it would be Ross Chastain. I haven't read anything on sponsors yet.which xfinity driver will get to take his place now (should have kept the sponsors for the car though, so we can maintain the current car numbers on the field)
Does it surprise you that so many people on this website that play video games and talk about video games haven't even batted an eye at all of the comments saying he did this because he's a gamer, let alone gotten as defensive as you have for Nascar fans?Because Larson isn't Nascar. Nascar isn't Larson. I don't know why this concept is hard to understand.
He is already suspended without pay. His team owner will likely fire him. His sponsors WILL drop him.
The community of Nascar has already shown their distaste for what he did.
What else does the community of Nascar and Nascar ownership itself need to do to further relay the fact they do not condone what he did?
I think if they kick him out of the car they shouldn't lose any sponsors. Who knows though.which xfinity driver will get to take his place now (should have kept the sponsors for the car though, so we can maintain the current car numbers on the field)
no it doesn't
I know it's easy to make "hurr durr NASCAR jokes" but the dude is from California. It's just as easy to make gamer jokes.
Honestly, I think all white people use that word regularly around their other white friends only. Then that moment in the heat of the moment they blurt it out by 'mistake' every time.
I am black and I never use that word with, 'er' or 'a'. So when I get angry I never blurt it out by mistake. Why do all white people do it by mistake?
If it is not part of your regular vocabulary then you would not say it my 'mistake'.
and that doesn't make it acceptable, does it? At least it shouldn't be.You say on the forum where people constantly post "gamers are trash" as if we don't already know.
Then the defenders come in saying, it was one mistake and he should not be punished.Completely agree. Do not believe any apology that comes from his "PR" team.
GamerGate proved to me that a lot of gamerz are super trash.and that doesn't make it acceptable, does it? At least it shouldn't be.
I agree. Much like saying Kyle Larson is trash, as are the certain fans that still fly the rebel flag at Talladega, and not dogging on NASCAR or its fans as a whole in a generalizing way.GamerGate proved to me that a lot of gamerz are super trash.
But a lot them are super dope too (see; SonicFox).
There is nothing wrong with calling out and shaming the abhorrent parts of a given fandom/hobby.