Motherboard: RDR2 Players Are Excited to Attack and Kill Feminists in the Game [update: re-instated]
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Regardless of the content of the videos, I think the headlines alone warrant the ban.
The guy is clearly inciting hate and its clearly working if you look at the gleeful reactions.
It's how I talk.
His age has absolutely no influence on this situation
something something the middle is a great place to beGuess we'll be getting that Boogie response soon.
Isn;t it obvious only irrational people driven by emotion have issues with misogynistic gamers making money peddling feminist murder fantasies to alt right gamers.
A logical person would understand that it;s just a difference of opinion.
okay, can you then explain the "because someone was feeling emotional" bit?
Guess we'll be getting that Boogie response soon.
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Except I actually AM having the discussion, and have similar discussions all the time. I'm not "more focused on being upset at Motherboard". I'm discussed by this guy's behavior. I'm not upset an Motherboard at all actually, I just think their tactic here is counter productive.
You on the otherhand are fostering discussion by driving by with "nope". And then hurling passive aggressive insults. Is that your idea of having a discussion. If so, lol!
Seriously, did I ever say I was upset with Motherboard? Or is literally making up shit your M.O.
Of course Boogie would do thisGuess we'll be getting that Boogie response soon.
You literally opened up with writing this article does a disservice to feminism dude.
More articles need to be written about how many misogynistic gamers there are and how many in the gaming community often rallies in their support. Not less.
If the titles are an issue, make it clear.
I think you know as well as I do; Youtube's TOS is way too vague for the amount of mediums that exist & the amount of content that can be uploaded to their site.
I've gone ahead and edited out the picture since it's rather large. This is some very strange whataboutism though, as I don't believe there is good reason for these other videos to stand either. Can't speak to their popularity relative to the one being discussed as the topic of this thread, which may be a reason why they attracted their attention and the ones you've listed haven't.
Are you arguing that it is good that these videos are still up?
I absolutely detest Sterling's videos/whole act but I've got a great deal of respect for the bloke all the same (especially how he's aided lesser-known others into prominence over the years). More power to those who like him.
He'd do well to ignore this sort of attention, it's not good seeing Youtube the platform in the state it is since its peak (for gaming-related content I mean) - Red Dead 2 is going to feature in Idiot Does Something To Get Famous stories for a looooong time I would say.
He'd do well to ignore this sort of attention, it's not good seeing Youtube the platform in the state it is since its peak (for gaming-related content I mean) - Red Dead 2 is going to feature in Idiot Does Something To Get Famous stories for a looooong time I would say.
guys, some people think killing feminists is good. others think killing feminists is bad. can't we all just meet in the middle and agree to beat feminists up without killing them?Guess we'll be getting that Boogie response soon.
i'm trying really hard not to read that post as dAmN eMoTiOnAl WoMeN, but...
This all could have been avoided if Anita Sarkeesian had just not gone after Gamers!!!111
no they're just saying either everything stays up or everything goes down but nothing can go down until everything goes down and it's a crying shame this kid's videos went down while those videos are still up so all the down videos must go up before all the videos come down
also TOSes apparently aren't designed to be as broad as possible so that sites like youtube can have some amount of leeway when making decisions and there should be a clearly labeled section about suffragettes as NPCs in videogames and the actions that you are and are not allowed to take with them
you can't effectively combat hate speech with algorithms (no matter how badly SV wishes this were the case), and wanting it to ONLY be the domain of algorithms is tantamount to wanting it to spread
Where did you get the "someone at the office being emotional" information from?
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Interesting. YouTube reinstated the channel.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7eAfUjR9gdIjoaoQaS0W-A
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7eAfUjR9gdIjoaoQaS0W-A
Because I think the article is counter productive. And being counter productive is a disservice. I then followed up with why I believe that.
If you disagree that's fine. We can discuss like adults, and you might even change my mind if you have good points. But driving by with "nope" and passive aggressive insults is not a discussion.
Great, now he's got his channel back, and picked up some 4chan groupies along the way. Way to go! /s
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Really didn't mean to derail the thread. I actually thought I would be in the majority with my take that men do stupid shit all the time, such as dipshit #1 who is literally using a video game as revenge porn against feminists. How people are jumping over that to defend men and hitting me with #notallmen is crazy. We even have some people in here defending the kid as if his actions are no big deal. We just had someone go into a yoga studio and shoot women because he was an incel. We gotta stop acting like our shit does not stink. Obvious-fucking-ly not all of us do wild shit and behave like this, but the ease in which some of you are willing to sweep this under the rug is scary.
Swastika is so contextual though - there would need to be case by case vetting I think. For a large, large part of the world, including my own, it's a religious symbol.
I'm arguing that Youtube's TOS is vague, which leads to inconsistencies.
Someone's channel's taken down because in a video game, he chose to beat on women....
But I can literally look up videos on your site of people choosing to beat on women in video games...And those videos have been up for years!
Youtube, is beating on women in video games against your TOS, or is it not?
Because if it was, these other videos shouldn't & wouldn't be on your site. Period.
trash men looking out for other trash men. story as old as time
now this fuckwad and his fellow alt-right buddies will feel vindicated and empowered. this is so depressing
You've explained nothing other than it makes him a martyr....
That's not an explanation for why it does a disservice to feminism, that's a serious charge friendo.
I don't think KKK can be equated to feminists at all.
But I dislike that the game gives you good karma for killing KKK members. I don't think any kind of killing should give you good karma.
A swastika is different from a manji symbol.
Not true. It is present in many religions, and doesn't face the same direction in all of them.
Like I said in my original post, I believe the channel was taken down because it was being flagged at such a fast rate..However, if it was the choice of another human being, that's not okay.
HAHAHAHA
Gamers rallying to get feminist murder fantasies back online and YouTube immediately bends over backwards ... but gaming isn't a txoic cesspool at all nope
I look forward to them personally apologizing to the misogynist.
YouTube should have to make a public statement and really own up to this. Really make it clear that they are sorry to the man who likes to make money off his fantasies of violently murdering fantasies.
The videos themselves are one thing, but the headlines add the context that makes them hateful and inciting.
In their TOS Youtube can't specifically account for all the ways people will find to spread hateful content.
If this guy had just an ounce of self awareness he would've known that he can get banned for spreading content like that. But the "anti-SJW" crowd doesn't have that self awareness, they have determined "SJWs" and feminists to be their enemies. They feel attacked by progressive ideology and lash out. There is nothing deliberate about it, its just dumb and in my opinion also dangerous. Deplatforming these people is probably the best solution.
Not surprised they re-instated them. I was actually surprised they took it down. Figures that they'd see this as a "mistake". Cowards.
What? You're against human moderators for Youtube?
Yeah, was impressed by Youtube for a moment, should have known they wouldn't actually stand by that action.
Most video games reward you for killing shitty people. Why should this one be any different? It would be weird if killing KKK members didn't give honor.
I like how you're running on the assumption that someone "at the office" was feeling emotional. Oh and that this grown ass man is a kid. Great priorities fam.This situation is not in TOS.
In fact TOS is incredibly vague when it comes to certain mediums. (artwork, films, games, music)
That's probably why these videos have existed on Youtube's site for so long...
I said it once, I'll say it again:
Behind closed doors, Youtube needs to have a conversation about their ethics & morals when it comes to Video Games.
When they've come to a decision on what type of Website & Business they want to be, make it KNOWN. Update TOS. Make the rules clear and concise.
- IF Youtube doesn't allow violence based off race, gender etc in VIDEO GAMES, MAKE IT CLEAR.
- Figure out how this rule works...Do they not allow violence based off race, gender, religion if the game is an open sandbox? What if killing someone based off these factors are part of the story? GAMING IS TOO LARGE to not have these types of conversations.
- Give the kid his channel back.
- Then, give everyone a chance to clear their portfolio of any videos that violate those rules.
But to abruptly terminate a channel, because someone at the office was feeling emotional, is unprofessional.