Ok, this is kinda insane.
Never in a million years I would expect AC to be on the same ballpark as pokemon.
Ok, this is kinda insane.
Never in a million years I would expect AC to be on the same ballpark as pokemon.
Is there a possibility that all mid developers that rely on their home market just transition to switch first/exclusives? Maybe with a pc port down the way.
Unfortunately, I think designing for Japan would hurt the appeal in the rest of the world for the PS5. I'm imagining a physically smaller and weaker console that is sold in the $300 to $350 range that focuses on the uniqueness of the Dual Sense even more from a software perspective.
It makes sense, but everyone always does what sony says. It's been like this since 1996, so it won't change.
People always prefer buying the product with options .
If PS5 Standard Edition : PS5 Digital Edition is 80:20 Globally in the First Year
It doesn't mean that the reality is Physical Medium is stronger on Playstation
If PS5 Standard Edition : PS5 Digital Edition is 80:20 Globally in the First Year
It doesn't mean that the reality is Physical Medium is stronger on Playstation
I would probably agree with that, at least that is more true than saying there's no interest in home consoles in Japan.
Yeah, proving even more that some warring points against the Switch is stupid, it's doing well on all fronts.
It's also why it's eating into the typical PlayStation audience, only a couple and usual suspect are absent now.
I wonder if someone like AniHawk can give us some insight to what the japanese devs are thinking right now
I think GAAS as a lot to do with the low effort by Sony on Japanese market.
Yup, which I'm not sure is a great choice when conditions are already challenging.
How you mean?
Relatively small monetisation potential or that people will still be spending on existing GaaS game?
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Flagship title from Nintendo would mean bigger hardware sales and eventually bigger software sales. The only way Momotaro would be affected negatively is with Nintendo releasing Super Mario Party this year.
3DS (2012) VS Switch (2020) Peak year
Switch need an avg. of 105.649 for the next 2 weeks to beat 3DS in 2012
Code:
|----|--------------------|--------------------|
| | 3DS | Switch |
|----|----------|---------|---------|----------|
|Week| Weekly | 2012 | Weekly | 2020 |
|----|----------|---------|---------|----------|
| 01| 203.605| 203.605| 284.827| 284.827|
| 02| 257.377| 460.982| 116.301| 401.128|
| 03| 101.697| 562.679| 96.458| 497.586|
| 04| 77.519| 640.198| 67.987| 565.573|
| 05| 81.699| 721.897| 75.922| 641.495|
| 06| 69.180| 791.077| 100.961| 741.456|
| 07| 60.231| 851.308| 80.312| 821.768|
| 08| 88.909| 940.217| 41.490| 863.258|
| 09| 72.032|1.012.249| 53.098| 916.356|
| 10| 71.797|1.084.046| 50.585| 967.941|
| 11| 63.717|1.147.763| 57.274| 1.025.215|
| 12| 63.746|1.211.509| 392.576| 1.417.791|
| 13| 94.776|1.306.285| 282.561| 1.700.352|
| 14| 118.072|1.424.357| 154.640| 1.854.992|
| 15| 67.312|1.491.970| 25.313| 1.880.305|
| 16| 62.653|1.554.623| 27.874| 1.908.179|
| 17| 80.561|1.635.184| 107.104| 2.015.284|
| 18| 71.282|1.706.466| 115.043| 2.130.326|
| 19| 88.226|1.794.692| 42.420| 2.172.746|
| 20| 45.063|1.839.755| 38.380| 2.211.126|
| 21| 41.712|1.881.467| 52.557| 2.263.683|
| 22| 51.804|1.933.271| 107.593| 2.371.276|
| 23| 101.718|2.034.989| 68.192| 2.439.468|
| 24| 61.212|2.096.201| 55.187| 2.494.655|
| 25| 56.394|2.152.595| 78.428| 2.573.083|
| 26| 66.953|2.219.548| 93.799| 2.666.882|
| 27| 65.267|2.284.815| 52.250| 2.719.132|
| 28| 51.930|2.336.745| 96.879| 2.816.011|
| 29| 46.633|2.383.378| 113.197| 2.929.208|
| 30| 44.202|2.427.580| 125.231| 3.054.439|
| 31| 235.974|2.663.554| 86.605| 3.141.044|
| 32| 118.786|2.782.340| 173.338| 3.314.382|
| 33| 108.897|2.891.237| 148.699| 3.463.081|
| 34| 107.140|2.998.377| 70.129| 3.533.210|
| 35| 64.921|3.063.298| 78.773| 3.611.983|
| 36| 67.926|3.131.224| 77.611| 3.689.594|
| 37| 57.305|3.188.529| 83.920| 3.773.514|
| 38| 56.970|3.245.529| 110.029| 3.883.543|
| 39| 59.199|3.304.698| 70.542| 3.954.085|
| 40| 77.183|3.381.881| 91.093| 4.045.178|
| 41| 58.233|3.440.114| 108.575| 4.153.753|
| 42| 78.401|3.518.114| 95.852| 4.249.605|
| 43| 60.033|3.578.548| 64.768| 4.314.768|
| 44| 60.079|3.638.627| 86.985| 4.401.358|
| 45| 82.644|3.721.271| 139.200| 4.540.558|
| 46| 186.662|3.889.933| 116.267| 4.656.825|
| 47| 170.559|4.060.492| 179.143| 4.835.968|
| 48| 158.527|4.219.019| 145.178| 4.981.146|
| 49| 154.654|4.373.673| 204.622| 5.185.768|
| 50| 219.103|4.592.776| 229.698| 5.415.466|
| 51| 333.409|4.926.185| | |
| 52| 433.788|5.359.973| | |
| 53| 266.790|5.626.763| | |
|----|----------|---------|---------|----------|Switch need an avg. of 105.649 for the next 2 weeks to beat 3DS in 2012
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This is already happening in Japan with most small and mid developers, it doesn't need PS5 to underperform.
Can it pass it next week?3DS (2012) VS Switch (2020) Peak year
Code:|----|--------------------|--------------------| | | 3DS | Switch | |----|----------|---------|---------|----------| |Week| Weekly | 2012 | Weekly | 2020 | |----|----------|---------|---------|----------| | 01| 203.605| 203.605| 284.827| 284.827| | 02| 257.377| 460.982| 116.301| 401.128| | 03| 101.697| 562.679| 96.458| 497.586| | 04| 77.519| 640.198| 67.987| 565.573| | 05| 81.699| 721.897| 75.922| 641.495| | 06| 69.180| 791.077| 100.961| 741.456| | 07| 60.231| 851.308| 80.312| 821.768| | 08| 88.909| 940.217| 41.490| 863.258| | 09| 72.032|1.012.249| 53.098| 916.356| | 10| 71.797|1.084.046| 50.585| 967.941| | 11| 63.717|1.147.763| 57.274| 1.025.215| | 12| 63.746|1.211.509| 392.576| 1.417.791| | 13| 94.776|1.306.285| 282.561| 1.700.352| | 14| 118.072|1.424.357| 154.640| 1.854.992| | 15| 67.312|1.491.970| 25.313| 1.880.305| | 16| 62.653|1.554.623| 27.874| 1.908.179| | 17| 80.561|1.635.184| 107.104| 2.015.284| | 18| 71.282|1.706.466| 115.043| 2.130.326| | 19| 88.226|1.794.692| 42.420| 2.172.746| | 20| 45.063|1.839.755| 38.380| 2.211.126| | 21| 41.712|1.881.467| 52.557| 2.263.683| | 22| 51.804|1.933.271| 107.593| 2.371.276| | 23| 101.718|2.034.989| 68.192| 2.439.468| | 24| 61.212|2.096.201| 55.187| 2.494.655| | 25| 56.394|2.152.595| 78.428| 2.573.083| | 26| 66.953|2.219.548| 93.799| 2.666.882| | 27| 65.267|2.284.815| 52.250| 2.719.132| | 28| 51.930|2.336.745| 96.879| 2.816.011| | 29| 46.633|2.383.378| 113.197| 2.929.208| | 30| 44.202|2.427.580| 125.231| 3.054.439| | 31| 235.974|2.663.554| 86.605| 3.141.044| | 32| 118.786|2.782.340| 173.338| 3.314.382| | 33| 108.897|2.891.237| 148.699| 3.463.081| | 34| 107.140|2.998.377| 70.129| 3.533.210| | 35| 64.921|3.063.298| 78.773| 3.611.983| | 36| 67.926|3.131.224| 77.611| 3.689.594| | 37| 57.305|3.188.529| 83.920| 3.773.514| | 38| 56.970|3.245.529| 110.029| 3.883.543| | 39| 59.199|3.304.698| 70.542| 3.954.085| | 40| 77.183|3.381.881| 91.093| 4.045.178| | 41| 58.233|3.440.114| 108.575| 4.153.753| | 42| 78.401|3.518.114| 95.852| 4.249.605| | 43| 60.033|3.578.548| 64.768| 4.314.768| | 44| 60.079|3.638.627| 86.985| 4.401.358| | 45| 82.644|3.721.271| 139.200| 4.540.558| | 46| 186.662|3.889.933| 116.267| 4.656.825| | 47| 170.559|4.060.492| 179.143| 4.835.968| | 48| 158.527|4.219.019| 145.178| 4.981.146| | 49| 154.654|4.373.673| 204.622| 5.185.768| | 50| 219.103|4.592.776| 229.698| 5.415.466| | 51| 333.409|4.926.185| | | | 52| 433.788|5.359.973| | | | 53| 266.790|5.626.763| | | |----|----------|---------|---------|----------|
Switch need an avg. of 105.649 for the next 2 weeks to beat 3DS in 2012
Almost certainly, week 51 is typically the biggest week of the holidays.
GAAS has a change the way companies view things, for example, Valve no longer releases games like they use to do to the fact that they can just sit back and collect money from their GAAS games and from other games.
Sony does the same thing, they try to acquire the Warfram publisher, IMO, with this goal in mind. I dont really know how GAAS perform in Japan so i cant say much about the market there.
Most likely. Only 212k next week to beat the 3DS total, and it's expected to do higher than that.
NO.
that's wrong the Japanese market isn't declining, Nintendo is the only company making games that appeal to that market.
The ps5 isn't selling well because of Sony's own Decisions.
This year should be W52 no? Correct me if I'm wrong (cuz of the dates)
6 million dream lives if your predictions stay this close...
I will definitely do so.
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The comparison is striking for sure, but PS5 has a lot more going for it long term than Wii U did. Sony does not respect the Japanese market at all, that's very clear by now, but they know they have certain strong titles in their back pocket because of their global reach and Japanese publishers' deference to them. Wii U was also competing directly with 3DS in terms of Nintendo platforms, whereas PS5 will soon be the only platform on the market beside Switch. PS5 is not going to be strong in Japan, and it's quite likely it will perform worse than PS4, but it's far from completely dead.
actually also in 2012 Week52 has been stronger (going by those comparison's numbers)
No, it's week 52 this year. Check year 2015 which had the same days aligned.
I don't quite know why but I am really hyped for the SM3DW re-release. Even though I 100% the game on Wii U already, and I really don't even know what Bowser's Fury is? It's strange. Anecdotal obviously, but I wonder if other people feel the same.
I have this hunch that it's going to sell really well despite being a Wii U port. Maybe the second biggest Wii U port after MK8DX. It's more just instinct that tells me this though so I can't explain it.
Ahh, I see what you mean but I'm not sure that's the case when you consider how heavily PlayStation is investing into single player experiences. The only GaaS games SIE has announced for PS5 are Destruction All Stars and GT7 if I'm not mistaken?
My take is that SIE primarily views Japan as a market of developers, which I think Jim Ryan's comments reflect:
Japanese content has largely existed as a differentiator vs Xbox in the last generation and built a unique audience so that even multiplatform games skew heavily to PlayStation.
As a result the question to them is how much PlayStation can shrink before it affects their ability to have that exclusive content and the answer is probably quite a lot. Even when we're discussing the "inevitable" decline of PS5 vs PS4 we're only talking going from 9m+ to ~7-8m which won't be above to cause developers and publishers to drop the platform, especially when the platform is going to mega-successful outside of Japan.
I think there's an argument that they're possibly being too passive about it but I think the scenario where the platform completely collapses is unlikely.
Level 5 trying to get the digital leftovers on the eShop.
Yo-Kai Watch 4++ for 1,500 yens. Really tempting if they don't localize the game.
Yo-Kai Watch 4++ for 1,500 yens. Really tempting if they don't localize the game.
The PS4 did about the same numbers as the PS3 which was Sony biggest flop to date even with a far better (IMO) support of Japanese games. When Japan is not even 10% of your sales where and decreasing year by year at a rapid pace while selling better and better abroad instead it makes sense to not focus on that market.
It will be the biggest Pikmin game ever in Japan (it already is considering the sales of the Wii U version).
Sony gives a lot of freedmon to their developers that has help them a lot in sales of the console do to how agressive the bundle, it is easier to sell a console when you put 3 AAA titles with 90MC and 10M sales on a box for 300$, they made a bet and it paid off, the problem is that this titles dont do anything in Japan.
They have been touching the GAAS for a long time now with Naughty Dog games, GT and with GoT update, tough this is not realy a GAAS. Desctruction will be their first true GAAS game.
There is also rumor that Horizon 2 will have some sort of GAAS element to it.
1) Supply chains have been running since the summer. If Nintendo wanted, they could've produced more.
2) Demand is much higher than supply. If there were no supply constraints, then this year would've been much higher than last year.
3) That's bullshit.
Thank you! I knew I was forgetting another major title but for the life of me I could not think of it.
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Nintendo can have JPN for itself. Sony is doing fine with JPN.
I presume you mean without Japan. Surprised to see you in this thread after blaming it for doom and gloom around Sony. Nice that you are the arbiter of what Nintendo can and can't have. lol
I'm just here for the doom and gloom after ignoring these threads for about 6 months. It's the hot thing right now because Christmas.
Sony is going to be fine without Japan console sales, but this is going to have a major impact on Japanese developers. For example, we know that PS4 Japan sales of Monster Hunter World were 20% of total sales for the base game and 34% of the Iceborne expansion.
That's going to be a big hit for Capcom if their largest market doesn't have an install base to sell games to.
But Capcom is also selling games on PC. That's a growing market in Japan.