For those who don't know: Ukraine had the 3rd largest stock of nuclear weapons after the fall of the Soviet Union. They gave them up in exchange for guarantees by western nations promising them safety and security. Yep.
I mean… I am Russian, so I can sort of imagine. I usually try not to watch state TV channels, though, so I am not desensitized, for better or worse.
Yuuup.For those who don't know: Ukraine had the 3rd largest stock of nuclear weapons after the fall of the Soviet Union. They gave them up in exchange for guarantees by western nations promising them safety and security. Yep.
So far, this speech is about all of Ukraine.So what happens when they take a new part of Ukraine now? How long until they take the whole Ukraine? The salami slicing indeed. Fuck this shit.
How far is the Lithuanian border?
That argument is, and always has been, BS
Gonna be a big frickin no thank you from me.Putin is deranged. At some point NATO will need to do something, even if the threat of nukes is there. This is insane.
Yeah this is legitimately terrifying exactly because this is a rambling, deranged historical revisionism rant. This is not a cold, calculating dictator laying out his reasoning, this is Putin living in cloud cuckoo land
Russian President Vladimir Putin spent much of his marathon talks with France's Emmanuel Macron this week on the Ukraine crisis reciting grievances that date back to the end of the Cold War, two sources in the French leader's entourage said.
In the first detailed read-out on Monday's meeting in Moscow from the French delegation, the sources said Macron had been struck by how different Putin was to the man he had met in his summer residence on the French Riviera three years ago.
"(Putin) gave him five hours of historical revisionism," said one of the two sources, describing how the Kremlin leader laid out his belief that the West had broken commitments to Russia since 1997 with the enlargement of NATO to include former Soviet bloc states.
"So he goes on for hours rewriting history from 1997 on. He drowns you in these long monologues. And the president (Macron) kept on going back to the issues of the day," said the source.
"These more than five hours of talks make us realise how different the Putin of today was to the Putin of three years ago," said the source, who was briefed on the contents of the Macron-Putin talks and spoke on condition of anonymity.
CNN international had it on last i sawHow is CNN not covering this? This is pathetic none of the media is showing it...
Guarantees by Western Nations and RussiaFor those who don't know: Ukraine had the 3rd largest stock of nuclear weapons after the fall of the Soviet Union. They gave them up in exchange for guarantees by western nations promising them safety and security. Yep.
For those who don't know: Ukraine had the 3rd largest stock of nuclear weapons after the fall of the Soviet Union. They gave them up in exchange for guarantees by western nations promising them safety and security. Yep.
Good fucking lord. Just going to hope someone near Putin grows a conscience and "solves" this.
This isn't a speech from someone willing to negotiate in good faith.
Now he's claiming he floated the possibility of joining NATO in 2000
this is like a depressed teen letting out 30 years of geopolitical angst
It really is. Putin being unhinged and even the closest circle Lavrov, Shoigu, et al. seeming to act like they afraid of him means this could turn in to anything. If Putin get his way here who knows what is next on his agenda.
putin has made clear he thinks that was a mistake
Moldova.It really is. Putin being unhinged and even the closest circle Lavrov, Shoigu, et al. seeming to act like they afraid of him means this could turn in to anything. If Putin get his way here who knows what is next on his agenda.
Guarantees by Western Nations and Russia
Yo, Iran: take good fucking notes.
Now he is suggesting NATO is gonna start a preemptive nuclear war?
They are?How is CNN not covering this? This is pathetic none of the media is showing it...
Honestly, following this speech, I feel like maybe he doesn't want to stop with Ukraine. I don't think this turns into a world war or anything, but I do feel like he's got his eye on rebuilding the old Russian empire and I can't blame Eastern European dudes for being nervous.
Now he's claiming he floated the possibility of joining NATO in 2000
The amount of pensioners in Russia living below poverty line is greater than the population of entire Ukraine.Is this all worth Putin bankrupting his country?
They were already in a shaky economic status.
When sanctions hit and they cut off supplies to Russia and it territories.. how many people are going to die due to things like starvation?
Putin said not long time ago that "if there is no Russia there will be no world"
This is why the "west" needs to continue to funnel resistance supplies as much as they can post-invasion; need to completely bog down their army and economy in a sustained operation.Honestly, following this speech, I feel like maybe he doesn't want to stop with Ukraine. I don't think this turns into a world war or anything, but I do feel like he's got his eye on rebuilding the old Russian empire and I can't blame Eastern European dudes for being nervous.
Yeah. I had been watching this but at this point it's just giving me extreme anxiety so I'm gonna have to step away. Scary shit, even if it is mostly words currently and remains that way.
Honestly, following this speech, I feel like maybe he doesn't want to stop with Ukraine. I don't think this turns into a world war or anything, but I do feel like he's got his eye on rebuilding the old Russian empire and I can't blame Eastern European dudes for being nervous.
This has been one of his big excuses for terrorising Ukraine the past decade. I really hope there is little on his mind about Nato actually starting a nuclear war, because he has proven to be so unhinged that if he does think that, we are fucked.