Man killed after being "swatted" over $1 COD wager
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How does on validate that a bomb threat or hostage situation is real before sending in the appropriate authorities?
people should be more mad at swat gunning down innocent people than at 2 idiots calling swat.
not saying those 2 are innocent, but if police did its job nobody would be harmed
reading comments above it almost seems like people describe fake call as assassination contract
not saying those 2 are innocent, but if police did its job nobody would be harmed
reading comments above it almost seems like people describe fake call as assassination contract
Yes? Precisely to prevent innocent peoples deaths? In most countries police is not allowed/discouraged to use force until an actual danger/threat is confirmed.
Jesus Christ!
Yes the swat team killed a innocent due to a grumpy angry online warrior. Give him a nice big sentence in jail. Even if he is from another country just import the guy by law and serve justice.
What a fuckin ridiculous thing to do.
Yes the swat team killed a innocent due to a grumpy angry online warrior. Give him a nice big sentence in jail. Even if he is from another country just import the guy by law and serve justice.
What a fuckin ridiculous thing to do.
Is there really a difference between SWAT and the militarised police forces anyway? I imagine police stations are just sending in relatively untrained guys with SWAT levels of firepower these days
well, it reads like they didn't. It sounds liek they sent some officers but not a swat team. We don't even know if this locality has a swat team.
either way thats not the point. Two issues here. The two players going straight to swatting over bs is fucked up. I hope the one who contacted he swatter and the person who did the call are imprisoned for murder or manslaughter. Sadly I doubt it will fix things.
Second, and equally troubling, what the fuck was this police dept thinking? If this was a hostage situation it doesn't sound like they handled it right at all. On top of that wtf was that cop doing going straight for the kill. Some fucked up shit. To me, that cop shouldn't be an officer, that dept needs a lot of training, and I am almost to the point of thinking the officer needs to be arrested.
That's a damn hot take. The guy who provided a wrong address is most to blame, not the person who asked for the swat and not the actual swatter?
IMO, the person who provided a wrong address should feel utterly horrible but they're the least responsible (but still partially responsible).
Unfuckingbelievable
What the actual fuck??? What is wrong with these officers?? This just sounds like straight up murder, though of course the officer won't suffer any consequences, they never do.
What the actual fuck??? What is wrong with these officers?? This just sounds like straight up murder, though of course the officer won't suffer any consequences, they never do.
What if the caller said he had a bomb or was dangerous etc?
Sure the swat team was a bit too trigger happy but the caller could have made it sound like a very dangerious situation
These guys did an idiotic thing. But really? A cop just shoots an innocent guy opening his door? How much training do these cops actually have. Especially considering they should have been experts tactical police right and not just new cops.
SWAT members have specialized training beyond regular officers. Your regular officer shouldn't and legally wouldn't be able to be put on a SWAT team.
Not shooting a dude opening his door on sight would be a start. Do police kill people who surrender? No. So maybe start there. And yeah, someone calls in a hostage situation so you send the whole Swat team without any hesitation what so ever? Makes sense. No scoping. No validation attempt. No anything. That's certainly the appropriate approach.
This is horrific. A innocent person dead over two COD players.
So the police or swat team were told of a false homicide and hostage situation and went in guns blazing? Just imagine answering the door and getting shot by police and you haven't got a clue. I hate to say but I bet this way more likely to happen in the US more than any other western country. I find the policing disturbing as an outsider and sure you can find single cases for most countries or regions.
and that instantly gives them right to just murder people? "but the dude on the phone said" ?
They were told it was a hostage-homocide. As in, the guy had killed someone and was holding another person hostage.
Pretty much one of the most fucked up things you can report. It puts an already-trigger happy force on high alert.
Maybe call the phone number on record, watch the house with infared to see how the parties are acting in the house...dozens of other things
I have no idea how a human being could shoot and kill an unarmed 28-year old and continue to do what they do. Hope that dude gives it up before he can kill someone else.
Swatters should go to jail. The murderer probably should too but obviously won't.
Swatters should go to jail. The murderer probably should too but obviously won't.
The last part is true. But the militarization of the Police is what enables this shit in the first place.
Still, that's neither here nor there, the fact is that two kids basically sent a hit on each other, which one of the two shitbags got an unrelated third party killed. That is fucked up.
No, ofcourse not but ultimately the caller called them he is to blame. And i edited my post just before you quoted me the swat team is not fault free. They also should be considered into the court case.
And you solve a dangerous situation by shooting the first person you come across?
The guy they shot might as well have been the hostage, forced to open the door by the people that held him.
Manslaughter? Sounds like murder to me. Its not like the police were going to bring pizzas to the place.
And you could validate that all from a single phone call? Enough to unload on a dude opening his door? How do the police even know the dude opening the door isn't a hostage? How do they know anything? Is policing just taking any call at fast value and blowing people away?
Your standard of police conduct is low.
No. Fucking don't call a SWAT team under knowingly false pretenses.
Don't redirect the blame. This is happening way to often in todays society.
no, this guy died because swat pulled the trigger. and only that.
just because someone started chain of events doesnt make him main offender. yes, he is at fault. yes, without this call nothing would've happened. but this also wouldnt've happened if SWAT didnt gun people down on sight. each action carries different degree of guilt, and caller definitely has less degree of guilt in the incident than trigger-happy officer.
what if it was legit call? what if it was hostage answering the door?
It's all about legality.
He'd never be charged with any form of murder, but this would fit the definition of manslaughter.
Sorry i did not ment it like that english is not my first language so i don't always get my points across well so i will just keep it that the situation could have been handled better.
Swatting people is not cool and it does not endsl well it, should become a serious crime since it happens quite alot nowadays.
Their process is instantly murdering people because the police in our country are bloodthirsty scum.
Afaik this incident is completely unique so no one really knows how it will be handled. I don't think anyone has ever actually been killed as a result of swatting before (though everyone knew it was only a matter of time), and usually when swatting occurs the person who made the call is anonymous, though here the guilty appear to be known. The police will probably get away free as always, but anything less than jail time for the caller, if found guilty, would be absurd imo.
This seems... extreme. The Police in the US is really trigger-happy, isn't it?
Which is the consequence of "idiots still think swatting is funny"
Both sides are guilty
Swatting happens all the time to streamers and I can't figure out why people get off on doing it. It puts so many people in the path of danger for absolutely no reason whatsoever. Most of the time the major problem is the person doing it might be out of the country or unable to be traced due to using online calling / proxys it's insane that it isn't easier to figure out.
It's not even that I totally fault the police but it shouldn't be this easy to kill someone. Call the police, make shit up and law enforcement is so down to take your word at total face value that they murder people on sight?
Is that the kind of police force people want?
As far as the 2 CoD players are concerned I think everyone agrees fuck these guys, send their asses to jail for a long time. But Swatting is so effective because the police enable it to be.
Both the idiot and the SWAT are guilty as fuck. SWAT being trigger happy doesn't mean his job is to just straight murder anyone that opens a door. This is more close to being a killer than an officer.
And of course the idiot calling should be charged because this stupidity needs to stop. Eat your consequences if you act like a dumbass.
And of course the idiot calling should be charged because this stupidity needs to stop. Eat your consequences if you act like a dumbass.
Better risk the life of the cop than the life of innocent people, the cop knowingly signed up for that risk when taking that job
Of course, the US seems to have a wildly different interpretation of what the police force is supposed to do, but in the rest of the west, the police's job is to protect people, at all cost.