Nope. Just a fucking shit city.
Do you get it yet, gun control morons?
I kept trying to tell people that if you ban guns, people will just find another way to commit atrocities. The Vegas shooter could've thrown knives from that hotel window and produced the same results. Wake up.
It's not really bullshit, Croydon is well known for being a shithole full of violence, gangs and knife crime.
But it's not to harass minorities, it's to prevent crime by providing a deterrent.So you are saying stop and search being used to harass minorities is worth it if it reduces knife crime? (Which is actually still going on and is clearly working lol)I am saying it needs to be used properly instead of black dudes being stopped all the time. I get stopped at least once every time I am in London.
Not sure why you bring whataboutism into this? Two completely different things that both need reducing in different ways
Do you get it yet, gun control morons?
I kept trying to tell people that if you ban guns, people will just find another way to commit atrocities. The Vegas shooter could've thrown knives from that hotel window and produced the same results. Wake up.
Both New York and London have absurdly low murder rates. And New York has some of the tightest gun control in the nation.Do you get it yet, gun control morons?
I kept trying to tell people that if you ban guns, people will just find another way to commit atrocities. The Vegas shooter could've thrown knives from that hotel window and produced the same results. Wake up.
It's not really bullshit, Croydon is well known for being a shithole full of violence, gangs and knife crime.
You aren't getting what I said or are doing it on purpose. Stop and search is a good idea, but the way it has been carried out isn't. It has been called out loads of times in the press and by prominent POC, for how it is prejudice towards POC, especially black men. So yes the way it is being used is to harass poc.But it's not to harass minorities, it's to prevent crime by providing a deterrent.
There's nothing at all racist about pointing out how much one area of a huge city is fucked up and has a notorious bad reputation. It has nothing to do with the diversity in the area, everything to do with how infamous Croydon is for it's links to gang, knife and gun crime. This isn't something completely pushed at minorities, plenty of white English people in Croydon are scum too, so please fuck off trying to make it something racial.What a way to describe one of London's most diverse and busiest parts. The same way trump was lambasted for his shithole comment about African countries you need to be for this BS. Stop pushing your racist narrative and get educated
There's nothing at all racist about pointing out how much one area of a huge city is fucked up and has a notorious bad reputation. It has nothing to do with the diversity in the area, everything to do with how infamous Croydon is for it's links to gang, knife and gun crime. This isn't something completely pushed at minorities, plenty of white English people in Croydon are scum too, so please fuck off trying to make it something racial.
https://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/all-about/crime
Educate yourself.
There's acknowledging an area with a high crime rate.There's nothing at all racist about pointing out how much one area of a huge city is fucked up and has a notorious bad reputation. It has nothing to do with the diversity in the area, everything to do with how infamous Croydon is for it's links to gang, knife and gun crime. This isn't something completely pushed at minorities, plenty of white English people in Croydon are scum too, so please fuck off trying to make it something racial.
https://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/all-about/crime
Educate yourself.
What a way to describe one of London's most diverse and busiest parts. The same way trump was lambasted for his shithole comment about African countries you need to be for this BS. Stop pushing your racist narrative and get educated
Of course, every local news outlet in the Country links to surrounding areas, the point was that you should use it to see the major Croydon crimes aren't down to minorities or POC and not just label the bad reputation Croydon has on nothing more than race.Linking to the crime page for the Croydon Advertiser shows how miss informed you are, they don't just cover Croydon they also cover it's surrounding areas.. basic research skills 101 is providing a reliable source fuck sake.
You sound just like those idiots that where sprouting their no-go zone nonsense last year without knowing much , does Croydon have crime .. yes just like any other part of the country .. Gangs .. yes like every other part of the country so signalling out Croydon which predominantly has an ethnic make up of POC you ain't doing your self any favours
Croydon , so please tell me more about my "shithole" "ceasepool" town
Whereabouts?
I don't think it's a nice city. I travel through there every day on the way to work. The high street is depressing. The Whitgift centre is awful. It's rundown, intimidating and dangerous. I have two young boys and I'd far sooner let them out in town than anywhere near Croydon at the weekend.
Who on earth do you think you are? I live about a mile from there but have to bow down to your sanctimonious bollocks about how it's some rainbow place of sunshine. Jog on.
Of course, every local news outlet in the Country links to surrounding areas, the point was that you should use it to see the major Croydon crimes aren't down to minorities or POC and not just label the bad reputation Croydon has on nothing more than race.
I never called it a no go zone, I called it a shithole full of violence and crime. I'm not wrong.
Wake up sheeple.Do you get it yet, gun control morons?
I kept trying to tell people that if you ban guns, people will just find another way to commit atrocities. The Vegas shooter could've thrown knives from that hotel window and produced the same results. Wake up.
Murders in NYC have fallen from an annual peak of over TWO THOUSAND in 1990 to post-WW2 low of just under 300 in 2017. The story is a dramatic reduction in homicides in New York, NOT chaos in London. Saying that, there were over double the amount of murders in NYC last year. /2
From the article:Sounds like this is more about NYC being really safe than London being really dangerous but I guess an article about the former wouldn't get 10% of the clicks.
Both cities have similarly sized populations of around 8.5m people. New York City's murder rate has decreased by around 87 per cent since the 1990s.
Meanwhile, London's has grown by nearly 40 per cent in just three years, not including deaths caused by terrorist attacks.
So it sounds like London is getting more dangerous while NYC is getting less dangerous. And there were several articles within the the past few years about NYC's declining murder rate.Fatal stabbings in England and Wales are now at their highest levels since 2011, rising by 12 per cent in the year ending December 2017.
From the article:
So it sounds like London is getting more dangerous while NYC is getting less dangerous. And there were several articles within the the past few years about NYC's declining murder rate.
Yup, this confirms it...
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43610936
To date:
NYC: 55
London: 45
Conclusion: Don't make this about making dumb remarks about gun control.
how do you even attempt knife control? a knife is much more ubiquitous to everyday life than a gun is
i mean obviously something needs to be done because this is terrible, but idk how you can reasonably attempt a knife control when people buy knives all the time for their kitchens
Yep, have lived in Croydon for 14 years since I was 19 and other then the occasional mouthy kid or drunk dickheads I have never had any issues.
It's full of normal people who are just getting on with their lives?Typical Croy-boy, can't accept the facts that Croydon is a festering shitehole.
Name one good thing that has come out of Croydon. One.
See...you can't.
Two shootings in London in the space of an hour have left a 17-year-old girl dead and a boy, 16, critically ill.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-43624392
Another one RIP kid.
It's full of normal people who are just getting on with their lives?
It's exactly the same as any other busy city, it gets crowded, people in general are oblivious arseholes, kids can be annoying but to paint it as some hell hole is ridiculous.
I live right in the centre of Croydon and I have never felt unsafe to walk around. At most the amount of people can make me anxious but never because of fear for my safety.
It's called stop and search.
I'm half black and have been subject to it but understand it's for the greater good. Politicians need to stop listening to the moaning of certain communities because the facts speak for themselves. It's the product of a perfect storm of May's ineptitude as Home Secretary and Khan's as Mayor. Having more PCs on the streets wouldn't hurt too, and a zero tolerance approach to even minor crime as per NY under Giuliani
It means literally what it says. London has had tons of crime under tory rule, but under Sadiq Khan the figures have taken a real nose dive - the topic of this thread.
Some posters here suggest it's a Tory conspiracy, that they cut resouces and then as a massive political feat passed the baton to a muslim labour mayor at the exact point when things were about to collapse, for massive political win.
Jesus, I hadn't realised the place was infested with Croy-boys.
We have very different definitions of normal people getting on with their criminality *ahem* normal lives when it comes to Croydon.
Croydon isn't too far off from the likes of Liverpool, Manchester and Birmingham as places to avoid at all costs. Cesspits as far as the eye can see.
There is nothing wrong with Birmingham, nor Manchester or Liverpool. Millions of people live their day to day lives never being in contact with any of this.
Basically this post comes across as *AVOID THE POORS!!* Poor taste dude.
There's plenty of poors in London too. Come on, my dude. You're reaching here.
It means literally what it says. London has had tons of crime under tory rule, but under Sadiq Khan the figures have taken a real nose dive - the topic of this thread.
Some posters here suggest it's a Tory conspiracy, that they cut resouces and then as a massive political feat passed the baton to a muslim labour mayor at the exact point when things were about to collapse, for massive political win.
It is interesting though that it declined during the recession, yet rose starting from the economy's uptick. Are there any explanations for that? You can't even clearly attribute it Cameron. And there's a lot of stuff you should be able to clearly attribute to Cameron.
Yeah, the number of murders has been growing recently, but it's still lower than it was a decade ago and still low for a city of London's size.
There is nothing wrong with Birmingham, nor Manchester or Liverpool. Millions of people live their day to day lives never being in contact with any of this.
Basically this post comes across as *AVOID THE POORS!!* Poor taste dude.
I work all over the UK at events. I was tech for the East Side City park World cup rugby a couple of years ago and the client had arranged the accommodation, which was 10 days in the luxury Travelodge above Tesco in the city center. I couldn't go outside for a smoke without being harassed for cigarettes or 'saves' there's a homeless food van that pulls up in the evening behind Tesco and I saw three fights whilst we were there. It was a five minute walk from the hotel to the park, and even at 8 am there would be groups smoking weed and drinking. When I chatted to one of the officers who was stuck at the event, he told me that despite the numerous options homeless people have in the city, several chose the life they have, and when you walk around the city center, there are lots of people in doorways. Interestingly, when I mentioned the weed, I admitted I was a smoker, and told him how distinct the smell was in in the area near the park (the council went for a stepped gradient with small gardens and accidentally created a skate park:D) he wasn't interested at all. Pretty much admitted that they'd given up on it!
It is interesting though that it declined during the recession, yet rose starting from the economy's uptick. Are there any explanations for that? You can't even clearly attribute it Cameron. And there's a lot of stuff you should be able to clearly attribute to Cameron.