Jim is treasure that keeps giving.
What a turn of events. While they showed good/great games, everything since that was clusterfuck.
What a turn of events. While they showed good/great games, everything since that was clusterfuck.
-
Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
-
We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.
Jim Ryan: "The PS4 community will continue to be incredibly important to us for three or four years"
- Thread starter jbug617
- Start date
I can get this but there wasn't anything they showed that didn't look like it could run on current gen outside a handful of games.
Between this and the UE5 demo I was suspecting the PS4 10 year cycle was still in play. While I thought it was obvious, I can certainly see how they were deceiving as fuck. This definitely means I'm not selling my PS4 though and will just have it in another room. Hope cross-saves are seamless lol.
Its funny. People were outraged and calling Sony anti consumer a few months back but now we find out they aren't being anti consumer at all, far from it, and people are still outraged.
Oh I know, that shit is gonna be announced within half a year of release.
Or people didn't get his quote? Sony believes in generations as there will be PS5 PS6 PS7 etc. That didn't mean they were going to stop full PS4 support across the board as soon as PS5 released. Again his quote doesn't state first party will be split for the next few years. Only that PS4 in general will be supported.
Cool I get to play Miles Morales and Horizon 2, save 500 bucks and then buy it when it has a price drop and all the next gen exclusives are 20 bucks
but cmon guys, dont you want those ps4 sales numbers to increase?!?! /S
Seriously though, Sony straight up lied to their fans
Seriously though, Sony straight up lied to their fans
Seems like it.
People are upset that other people will have access to games to. Too many whiny adults around here
Me neither people seem to be mad that they did not mention the ps4 versions of Horizon and Spiderman Miles Morales until now but preorders for the ps5 have not even begun yet when those games were first annouced and frankly I am very happy that I don't have to jump into a new console gen just to play Horizon and Miles Morales Spiderman.
"We believe in generations, there are things you can only enjoy on PS5"
"You will have time to pre order"
"value talk" when upping the prices for games drastically
and while they talk of generations and things you can only play on PS5 they come along and present a 10 year old games remake as launch title
this is in no way meant to be dismissive, i am looking forward to it, Demon´s Souls is one of my favourite games but somehow it is a bit strange when you talk of "things only on PS5" and give a remake of a 10 year old game as launch title. it is a really double edged sword, on one hand exciting, on the other it is a bit odd.
Nobody is upset about that and you know it. People are upset that those games wont take full advantage of the PS5's hardware, this has been explained a million times already.
i love cooking but wife hates it because i destroy all her nonstick pans.
Don't misinterpret this. Sony always keep supporting their last gen consoles for many years. It doesn't mean that they'll keep making cross-gen games.
In fact, after all this mess, I think both Microsoft and Sony will stop doing cross-gen games by those which will launch fall 2021.
In fact, after all this mess, I think both Microsoft and Sony will stop doing cross-gen games by those which will launch fall 2021.
Honestly, why even create new systems. Just release them in 3/4 years. This day was supposed to be a fun day.... Now we got 80euros games that still gonna have monitazation, being incomplete on disc, broken games and a attitude "how to squeeze out ever drop of blood from our user base". Games that are designed for cpu that were outdated in 2012, mechinacal hdd... I hate Jim's PlayStation vision. It sucks and why even release new systems.
What a shit day this turned out to be.
What a shit day this turned out to be.
The games probably started development on the PS4. That's how game development works these days. It's a lengthy task.
People are upset because they're whiny and like whining. This is ridiculous. Every PS gen has done this.
Sony has always supported their consoles after the launch of a new one, and third parties will never just give up on the already built in user base until the new ones start gaining ground. It's no different than other generations.
I also think it's going to be important this time because a lot of people are currently fucked by COVID. The people are throwing over some of this stuff is embarrassing.
I also think it's going to be important this time because a lot of people are currently fucked by COVID. The people are throwing over some of this stuff is embarrassing.
"We believe in generations"
"We want to transition players from PS4 to PS5 at an unprecedented pace"
"PS4 support for 4 more years"
What a crock of shit.
"We want to transition players from PS4 to PS5 at an unprecedented pace"
"PS4 support for 4 more years"
What a crock of shit.
TIL gamers aren't allowed to enjoy Demon's Souls, R&C, RE8, FFXVI, Deathloop and all the other next gen only games because a couple of the big games Sony announced are cross-gen.
Lol. I'd keep those expectations in check to be honest. They did no DLC and the game came out in 2018? They probably began development right away after the first which leads me to believe there's a good chance it started on PS4.
We'll see. I still think it gets delayed into 2022.
None of that has to do with Miles or Horizon.
They are still making games that can only be done on PS5 like Ratchet and Clank.
It doesn't contradict his previous statements.
If you wanna believe that, sure, go ahead.
And no, not every PS gen has done this. Last time the only cross-gen stuff was LBP3, the MLB games and some indie sized games such as Resogun, Entwined, Helldivers and stuff.
I would agree, but the "look" of a game doesn't really reveal much, because it is subjective. Most of the times it just comes down to not wanting to put a game on a weaker console even though the game wouldn't have much issue being scaled to that compute lower.
Sony was specifically antagonistic in their marketing, directly referencing Microsoft's messaging to highlight how they stand apart. It was very purposeful, which is why people are reacting the way they are. It comes off as hypocritical for no reason, and deceptive to market certain games as PS5 only, but then reveal they're also for the PS4 it fine print or tucked in announcement blogs.
Is it Oochie Wally or is it One Mic?
Last edited:
People are mad because Sony was pushing for a fast transition, experiences that can only be enjoyed on PS5 and "PS5 exclusives will not be cross gen" for months only for it turn turn out that a number of the games showcased for the PS5 are crossgen and Sony is now talking about the PS4 being more important for 3-4 more years.
Normally most probably wouldn't be too upset(we all know some would), but some of the stuff Sony said clearly deceived people.
Yes, expectations in here have been a bit unrealistic in regards to this topic.
I'm thinking covid and series S made them do this. They'll push PS4 as the budget option to compete against s, since I expect lots of cross gen from third parties.
You guys sound like that crazy MBG guy on youtube who nearly choked on his own tongue today trying to walk back on all the shit talk Xbox got about cross gen for months.
Of course they are going to support the PS4 for years to come. The PS2 had a good line 10 years after its debut and only recently did they stop with the PS3. PS4 is too popular and hasn't even gotten down to a $200 or $99 price point. Can you imagine in 2022 a $200 PS4 Pro with a bunch of $20 games that look like TLOU2 or God of War? It's a parent's dream for Christmas.
Of course they are going to support the PS4 for years to come. The PS2 had a good line 10 years after its debut and only recently did they stop with the PS3. PS4 is too popular and hasn't even gotten down to a $200 or $99 price point. Can you imagine in 2022 a $200 PS4 Pro with a bunch of $20 games that look like TLOU2 or God of War? It's a parent's dream for Christmas.
I... never said that? How does me pointing out that Jim Ryan lied =/= "Gamers CANT ENJOY THESE GAMES SONY ANNOUNCED!" ?
Next time you quote me don't write bullshit if you aren't interested in a honest discussion.
for better or worse this will be standard stuff from here on out
gaming is still a really young medium compared to art or movies for example, we are now in the phase where you can reboot or bring back everything that was cool one or two decades ago.
Honestly, sounds good on a business and consumer stance. Nice approach. Even though messaging was wrong.
This shit happens every gen. They hide that games will be out on the previous gen as well. See: Titanfall for the Xbox One and 360.
PC users about to throw their own fits when they can't get a 30 series card.
Man. Jim Ryan threads really bring out the anger. I feel if Horizon 2 weren't there, Noone would really give two shits about this whole thing.
Keep in mind, it was the only launch window game listed as cross gen and it wasn't even shown today. They didn't say anything about games like GT7, Reternal, Demon's Souls, Ratchet and Clank, Destruction All Stars, Godfall.
Keep in mind, it was the only launch window game listed as cross gen and it wasn't even shown today. They didn't say anything about games like GT7, Reternal, Demon's Souls, Ratchet and Clank, Destruction All Stars, Godfall.
Are people taking the piss in here or what lol? Just like the PS2 and PS3 were supported for years post new gen launch, the same will happen with PS4.
He's not saying everything from Worldwide Studios will be cross gen for 3-4 years.
He's not saying everything from Worldwide Studios will be cross gen for 3-4 years.
You just gave an example of them doing this?
Playstation has always supported their last gen consoles years into the future because many countries that game on PS find the next gen to be unaffordable at launch prices. The way Sony did it before is they would just have big games released on the old console (like God of War 2 releasing on PS2 after PS3 launched).
Now the stuff that was in development for PS4 will also release on PS5. Also there will be plenty of exclusive PS5 games.
No one lied. Stop being dramatic...
