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Jeff Grubb: Whatever's next for Nintendo may not be a 'Switch Pro' or 'Switch 2', it may be something in-between to continue the Switch generation

Would you guys prefer if we had a 'Nintendo Hardware Speculation OT' instead multiple threads?

  • Yes, please make a 'Nintendo Hardware Speculation" OT to keep it all in one place

    Votes: 250 62.8%

  • No, I prefer multiple threads since it's easier for me to stay updated that way

    Votes: 148 37.2%
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Maple

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Grubb said that it's important for Nintendo not to "start over", meaning a completely new platform where people lose their games and everyone has to buy in again. "They don't want to be the one company starting from zero, they want to build on what they have going forward".

Uh, well, they can release a successor and still do that. Switch 2, with full BC, and the same Nintendo Account, with the same Switch Online services, effectively does that. You then go into 1-2 years of cross-gen titles which come out for Switch but are significantly enhanced for Switch 2 before making Switch 2 only games. Meanwhile, big 3rd party titles can start showing up on Switch 2.

Sony and Microsoft are already following this blueprint.

I mean in terms of hardware, there is nowhere for Nintendo to go other than a massive leap forward with a successor system. They're not releasing a souped up Tegra X1 seven years later. The door closed on that like 3 years ago.
 
RedHeat

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A "pro" model is exactly that though... Be that as it may, is he speculating or does he have sources?
 
Orioto

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I mean something in between could be, and it wouldn't be completely out of general console trends lately, a Switch 2 that won't have exclusive games for a while.... It's what Microsoft did after all.
So basically Switch 2 starts as Switch pro..
 

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I don't agree with the assumption that a new generation for Nintendo means dropping the previous concept and branding entirely, they didn't do with that with the GBA and the 3DS. A new gen can keep the eShop, NSO, form factor, etc.
 
ILikeFeet

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if insiders can't say anything about the actual hardware or the games, I'd rather them not say anything at all
 
Ariakon44

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I think he just means they'll stick to something very close to the current Switch design wise, just with beefed up hardware power instead of dipping into a new design philosophy/playstyle like they've done in the past.
 
Fendoreo1

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Based on the leaked specs its a generational leap in power, so the distinction is solely on how nintendo will refer to it. Given the ambiguity I imagine back compat is guaranteed
 

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BlueManifest said:
A switch console is the only thing he could mean, not portable, will be able to play switch exclusives in 4k etc
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Switch console is a product I can believe they could introduce to extend the life of the Switch. I think it'd be more likely to be a budget option for families though than a beefy HW upgrade. I guess 4K upscale could be a possibility if they can somehow implement DLSS to handle it.

Anyway, I hope that's not their plan and that they're fully gearing towards the successor.
 
jroc74

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I just saw the poll added.

Of course an OT, not because its too many threads...but I feel like thats a given for any new console for any of the big 3.

I thought there was one already....
 
Advance.Wars.Sgt.

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I'm going to go on record and speculate this new iteration is a SWOLED Lite, with it's handheld power profile being 1:1 with the docked experience.

It's the most "end of life" Nintendo move ever.
 
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ILikeFeet said:
if insiders can't say anything about the actual hardware or the games, I'd rather them not say anything at all
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Pretty much my thoughts. Tired of all the speculation that brings nothing of substance. I'm fine with hinting strongly that they will reveal it this year, but once we get into full speculation territory, I'm out. It's just tiring after the whole crap with Metroid.
 
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jroc74 said:
I just saw the poll added.

Of course an OT, not because its too many threads...but I feel like thats a given for any new console for any of the big 3.

I thought there was one already....
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As ILikeFeet said:
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that was before a lot of the nintendo people left era
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We had a Nintendo Community OT (or a series of them at that) before a lot of old users left alongside a Nintendo Hardware thread. I did what I can to reboot the Nintendo Community (which is what we have now) on Era, I'm willing to also make the Hardware Speculation OT so they can co-exist together.
 
FLEABttn

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this is a meaningless distinction that will only further the pointless and tiring discourse around the speculated hardware that's been going on for years

jeff bro you can just not say things
 
DoctorPlayer MD

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Well, that's a way to ensure the Nintendo Switch becomes the best selling console ever... don't make a sucessor and keep iterating on progressively more powerful switch models forever. New Switch, New Switch plus... when they want to release a true successor they'll just stick a letter or number to its name.
 
PucePikmin

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i am very tired of switch 2 and other switch related rumors and speculation
i feel like these threads should be banned until there is like, substantial proof of something happening.
every day someone says something about it and never does anything ever pan out
i'm sure we're getting close to something, i'm sure we can all just wait.
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It's a topic people like to discuss on this video game discussion forum. If you don't want to discuss it, feel free not to.

Anywho, I reeaally think full-on new hardware is coming, in part to combat growing Switch piracy, but how they actually position it is up for debate. I think it's likely they try to downplay that "break" between console generations as much as possible.
 
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Angie said:
I'm so confused.

It's not a new console, not a Pro, but is something in-between?
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I guess it could be something akin to the New 3DS... In which it's an objective hardware upgrade and few select games can take advantage of the hardware but not enough so it can't run on the OG switch
 
aloner

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I think the gist is, it's a Switch 2/Switch Pro in execution but it continues to be called Nintendo Switch (ver 2.0 or whatever) and be part of the Nintendo Switch family of systems til the older models get phased out and new models come in (basically a spin on the iPhone model which I believe has been mentioned by Nintendo) with new games working specifically on new hardware and some on old for a time before v2.0 becomes the base Switch, then upgrading the Switch Mini etc - but basically, we know what the new hardware is it's just a matter of how Nintendo spin it and when they release it.
 
HardRojo

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It'll be called "Switch, too", because it'll simply be a Switch. Nintendo are masters at naming their consoles.
 
Serenitynow

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And Jeff's stated rationale for them doing this is because they don't want to start from scratch with NSO.

... What is so difficult about transferring NSO as it is to a new console?
 
FiXalaS

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Are the sales even slowing down? Hardware and Software-wise they aren't last I checked.. so it makes sense to make the next system be either an extension of Switch (Higher clocked Switch console-only maybe?) or an actual next gen system that is 100% fully BC. Next 3D Mario cross-gen possibly.

Otherwise I think jeff's statement doesn't make sense.
 
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