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Jason Schreier: "Final Fantasy VII Remake's Box Art Sure Is Misleading"
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Yeah, whether malicious or just stupid (it's Square after all, it can be heard to tell), it's absolutely misleading as it stands.
I don't see it as an issue, tacking on a part 2 to the next box doesn't change anything about this one.
They also exist in a series of movies known for picking up where previous movies left off, even if months later and with different characters. People knew what to expect.
" is actually an expanded and enhanced version of the Midgar section of the original Final Fantasy VII, which comprises roughly the first four hours of the game. "
Wait what? I thought it was the FULL game but it's only that part? ... uhhhh ....
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Wait what? I thought it was the FULL game but it's only that part? ... uhhhh ....
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This is exactly my thoughts. I always felt like they should just add part 1. Yeah yeah it's a full game based on the first 10% of VII but you have to realize it literally says REMAKE. Unless part 2 and up are getting new boxart changes with the same name, this is just terribly misleading and I fully agree with Jason here.
Just break through the glass case at Walmart with your bare fist if you want to know what you're buying
Borrow a handgun from the sporting goods if you're too weak to break it yourself
Yup, a Part 1 subtitle would probably make some people want to wait for the "full game", ignorant to the fact that this is a full game and that it's gonna take forever for the the entire story to be covered.
SE would obviously want to avoid that situation, and hence the misleading title.
Sure but IT was already a 2 part movie prior to this remake? The point was stupid to begin with. It's not even the same type of media.
Nobody at all. But that isn't the discussion here. The discussion is whether it's misleading when it is not.
The Part 1+2 [The story so far/365] Collection will be $20 by the time Part 3 comes out. Games crash in value very quickly.
And games have resale value. Movie tickets are non refundable.
Sure, but being misleading to unaware consumers who loved the original by wasting their time and money is fucking shitty and I'm surprised people are defending it.
They knew from the jump not remaking the game in its entirety would draw scrutiny. This is literally them being dishonest.
I think the real issue is that the Midgar section of FF7 IS NOT a complete game or story by any stretch. There is basically no resolution to any of the issues in the plot, other than ones that are immediately replaced by newer, bigger problems. Sure, the Shin-Ra president gets it. But his son immediately steps in his place and promises to be worse and Sephiroth is on the loose, and you're on his tail. A new MAIN character is introduced like a half hour before this!! This is just the beginning of the rising action of this story and it comes to an end there??
Anecdotal, but I knew a few people in high school that bought the game just due to the CG commercials.
Some of them were pissed and didn't progress, but for some it was the gateway into a game genre they'd never been into before and they became not only FF fans, but fans of console RPGs.
The worst that can happen is people screaming for more which square will happily deliver
REmake , RErelease. Why not? Its about confusion so why not go further if confusion is such a big deal.
It's not semantics at all. This isn't the complete version of Final fantasy 7. That's not an opinion it's a fact. To say SE should just call this Final fantasy 7 when it isn't the whole thing is being very disingenuous.
But this is exactly what people here are saying. Yes 'we' know it's not the full story and are fine with that as yes it's supposed to be a lengthy game but there are plenty of people out there that will think it's the whole of the Final Fantasy 7 story and that is what the issue is and what people in this thread are complaining about.
Except it wasn't a remake but rather an adaptation of a long running series.
It was initially announced as two parts but then they decided to give Endgame it's own title because the story had changed considerably. And because Infinity War the movie can definitely work as a standalone title just like Age of Ultron can. You definitely should watch Endgame though.
Audiences either knew that Infinity War was the first part of a saga because Disney and Marvel were stressing that information out everywhere or the audiences had no knowledge of comics in general so they came in expecting to see something called Infinity War.
^ this. This isn't the full game. It's barely even a part of the game. That's why this is a problem.
There is no formal, industry wide accepted definition of "remake" in regard to video games. Therefore we must look to historical examples to give us the context of the word.
The majority (if not entirety?) of video games with the remake label applied have been full content remakes. This sets expectations when the term is used. When a game deviates from that norm it, especially when it might be perceived as having "less" content that the original, it should make that difference apparent.
Final Fantasy VII Remake (part 1) may have the content to make it a "full" game, but it's not a remake of the original game, it's part of a remake of the original game.
I feel like some of the people dismissing this think that Jason and others are making it a Big Deal, but... not necessarily? We can think "eh, that's misleading" without it being a huge problem, after all.
The problem here is that, though the game is supposed to be a full game on its own, with a legit narrative arc and the scope of a full Final Fantasy game, it's still a remake of something that already exists. There are plenty of people that comment on the official social media posts that clearly don't know this is just Midgar, so it'd probably be a good idea to make that clear for people who liked the game or are interested in it but haven't kept up with news. Not everyone's an enthusiast, after all.
The problem here is that, though the game is supposed to be a full game on its own, with a legit narrative arc and the scope of a full Final Fantasy game, it's still a remake of something that already exists. There are plenty of people that comment on the official social media posts that clearly don't know this is just Midgar, so it'd probably be a good idea to make that clear for people who liked the game or are interested in it but haven't kept up with news. Not everyone's an enthusiast, after all.
That's not the issue. The title here just says ff7 remake. Most people will get the game thinking it's a remake of the full original game.
And this makes it ok somehow? No. It's shady of Square Enix. Let's see how far those prices crash because you truly don't know. Square will surely milk this game for as much as possible for years to come.
As long as the back of the box says it's just Midgar or part 1 or some other descriptor, it'll be fine.
I'd rather they were more clear on the front of the box, but i dont think it's a big deal if it ships the way it currently is. The PS Store description seems fine to me.
Edit: I see some folks saying they can't get to read the back of the box before purchase. That isnt the case in the uk where all retailers have display cases you can pick up and read or item descriptions in the case web based retailers. Unless there are some exceptions I'm not aware of.
I'd rather they were more clear on the front of the box, but i dont think it's a big deal if it ships the way it currently is. The PS Store description seems fine to me.
Edit: I see some folks saying they can't get to read the back of the box before purchase. That isnt the case in the uk where all retailers have display cases you can pick up and read or item descriptions in the case web based retailers. Unless there are some exceptions I'm not aware of.
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I'm not defending it. I'm just saying that there aren't any unaware consumers because it's 2019 and everyone uses social media and YouTube to get their news.
Yeah a giant fucking book of over 1000 pages, that had a movie that was split into 2 parts
And now a new movie that is also split into 2 parts
neither are direct comparisons to $60 games either. It's a stupid argument.
Again, this is silly. People could stretch the definition of one story by separating them into story arcs. I could as well argue that the section at Corel where the party gets into the desert prison is a complete story by itself. There's a particular beginning, a middle and a ending, at the same time The Witcher is all about the story of Geralt.
This definition is 100% arbitrary to discussion convenience.
How are they wasting there time or money?
Do you think they still wont like it despite all the positive impressions of the game?
He's not wrong but I don't think people will care as much by the time they beat the game.
Midgar may have only encompassed 1/10th of the original, but it's been completely fleshed out to become a 30-hour experience, comparable to the length of FFXIII. That's not to say they're going to expand on the rest of the game in the same fashion though. They likely just made an exception because this chapter of the game is so memorable and full of untapped potential.
Midgar may have only encompassed 1/10th of the original, but it's been completely fleshed out to become a 30-hour experience, comparable to the length of FFXIII. That's not to say they're going to expand on the rest of the game in the same fashion though. They likely just made an exception because this chapter of the game is so memorable and full of untapped potential.
That isn't a remake of a previous movie, not hard to grasp really.
But it is? If you read the title "Final Fantasy: Remake", are you expecting a remake of the original game or just one part of it?
This game is in a unique situation. SE call it a remake but it looks more like a reimagining.
Therefore I've gone with the not misleading option.
Therefore I've gone with the not misleading option.
It's not a stretch. It's the literal definition of "episodic". A story told in episodes. The original story of FFVII is told in episodes here. Storylines set up in part 1 won't get answered until the later parts of the whole remake project as a whole.
I don't find it any different than playing a game that ends on a cliffhanger and gets a sequel that just tacks a 2 on to the title.
Wasting their time and money? What are you even talking about.
I've been saying the same thing for months. It's like remaking Kingdom Hearts 2 and focusing way too much on Twilight Town, then rolling credits right after Sora meets Master Yen Sid.
I agree with Jason. This is like if they remade Fellowship of the Ring, but ending just as they're leaving The Shire. Sure, The Shire part would now have extended scenes to stretch it out to a full movie, but people would still be confused as to why it is ending before it really started.
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