Their CEO appears to have been indicted for defrauding them for a fuckton more than any welfare fraud. But, you know, phones and fancy cars...Poors and their disgusting cheese lust keeping store owners pressed
Their CEO appears to have been indicted for defrauding them for a fuckton more than any welfare fraud. But, you know, phones and fancy cars...Poors and their disgusting cheese lust keeping store owners pressed
Didn't you guys know when you fall on sudden hard times you should sell anything that might look remotely expensive. Your phone? Yup, get rid of that despite needing it to get a job and communicate. Yeah just get rid of it despite being contracted to it for years. Your car? Sell that, too, even if you get less than it's worth. Also never borrow anyone's car. People might think it's yours. You're poor now. You have to look desolate and penniless at all times.
And most of them are fat so how poor can they really be!!!!!
Take something simple like... cheese. There are 10 brands of cheese. Only certain brands were allowed to be purchased. I don't know why, but probably because the government makes special deal with those particular companies would be my guess. They also tended to be the cheapest. Customers would bring up the wrong items, on purpose. Now imagine this issue multiplied by all items one would put in their cart. The store would have to pay the difference in what was sold vs what was supposed to be sold, usually a buck or two per item. It added up quick. This cost my single location about 1.5-2k a month. When you consider how small the margins are for grocery stores to make money, it hurt. The chain I worked for, Harvest Foods, actually went out of business.
Yeah, and these stories are infuriating because the approval process can be so oblique and seemingly at the whim of individuals in the chain.The fuck it is. I've been supporting my brother for 15 years in KY who has degenerative spine issues. All he can do is bath and dress himself and has been turned down 4 fucking time for disability in this piece of shit state.
There are a decent number of people that go to school or work in social work that have absolutely no business being there. Racism, homophobia, sexism, TERFs, ableism, xenophobia and classism. I'm never sure why exactly they get into it. Although, to be fair it's probably less likely any of the people in here going on about working with society's worst (people trying to eat or have housing) are a licensed social worker so hopefully the capacity for their bias to negatively impact people seeking help is minimal.I always find it amazing how the people who run into these threads and ring the alarm bell on these awful serial ABUSERS are the people who work in the social work industry. Doesn't matter how many times we go over the statistics and the realities, the jaded insider perspective knows all.
This is always what really fuckin' gets me hot. The second you're poor, you need to sell off all your moderately expensive things, even though they are worth dogshit in the secondhand market, because you should always sell all your belongings immediately to cover for a hardship that may only last a month or three. That's the other thing; I've been on assistance several times in my life, sometimes the hardship is fleeting -- but if it weren't for that two months of foodstamps then it would have been worse and worse and then I'd be on assistance for years at a time trying to recover.
I've tried selling my expensive shit -- I sold TVs, cars, etc. You know what it accomplishes? Jack shit. It covers a single bill and then the next month I still don't have the actual income or help I need and now I don't have my phone or car.
The irony here is the system requires them to buy a certain type of cheese in the first place , and rather than assume .... I dunno that they didn't know which cheese was /was not covered you jumped straight to the fact that they were trying to screw you and your store over..... Which ultimately led to your store being closed because they were "tricking you".
You've created this elaborate story in your head that people just wanted to try to get one over .... Because they wanted Swiss cheese over American
A board full of affluent white guys pretending to be salt-of-the-earth socialists has awful opinions on poverty? Perish the thought!
Most people are idiots, that's why it's so easy to con them.
1% of poor people scam the system: FUCKING LEECHES! FUCKING WELFARE QUEENS! CUT EVERY SOCIAL PROGRAM IN EXISTENCE!
99% of rich people scam the system :
Ah rich people will be rich people. Those rascals haha! Can't do anything about it right?
Ushered in amid promises that it would save taxpayers money and deter drug users, a Florida law requiring drug tests for people who seek welfare benefits resulted in no direct savings, snared few drug users and had no effect on the number of applications, according to recently released state data.
From July through October in Florida — the four months when testing took place before Judge Scriven's order — 2.6 percent of the state's cash assistance applicants failed the drug test, or 108 of 4,086, according to the figures from the state obtained by the group. The most common reason was marijuana use. An additional 40 people canceled the tests without taking them.
Because the Florida law requires that applicants who pass the test be reimbursed for the cost, an average of $30, the cost to the state was $118,140. This is more than would have been paid out in benefits to the people who failed the test, Mr. Newton said.
You should probably rethink why you're a social worker who demonizes poor people on the internet.As somebody who does social work as my second job at a scatter homeless shelter, for every 10 families we get in here only 1, MAYBE, are actually here because of a hardship.
It's usually people grabbing homebase (a 10k check with a year of all bills and rent paid for in a new apartment) or some sort of government grant, and then when they use it up they move to another State and rinse and repeat.
As somebody who does social work as my second job at a scatter homeless shelter, for every 10 families we get in here only 1, MAYBE, are actually here because of a hardship.
It's usually people grabbing homebase (a 10k check with a year of all bills and rent paid for in a new apartment) or some sort of government grant, and then when they use it up they move to another State and rinse and repeat.
OH NO not a nice cellphone. Cant be poor if you have relatives that occasionally gift things. A one off cellphone really pays the rent and groceries, yep.I saw a lady in the supermarket using food stamps and she had a nicer phone than me, it was a hand me down from her brother who bought out the phone.
I like that you showed how you could have possibly read that persons post poorly by quoting only what you read.OH NO not a nice cellphone. Cant be poor if you have relatives that occasionally gift things. A one off cellphone really pays the rent and groceries, yep.
Ah, Poe's law'd myself. Reading the first few pages pissed me off enough to miss the sarcasm, I suppose. I know enough people that legitimately think like that so I was just immediately seeing red.I like that you showed how you could have possibly read that persons post poorly by quoting only what you read.
You don't have to be white to believe some people are taking advantage of welfare system. I've certainly heard enough comments about Jews and Russians in NYC to attest to that.Racists will believe any negative thing you tell them about black and brown folk. Something something, Lyndon B Johnson.
Absolutely zero people should give that much of a shit of people "gaming!!" the system for 200 extra dollars a month. It's people stealing billions in taxes from the government every year and folks are crying about someone "gaming" extra food for their family.
You should probably rethink why you're a social worker who demonizes poor people on the internet.
But you just said that 9/10 of the people you help are scammers?You should probably read more of my posts. I'm not demonizing people, or calling them out. These are simply the facts that I've experienced after working in this field for over a year.
I come from poverty myself. My parents came from Puerto Rico and had me when they were 16. They struggled with school and working two jobs each and making sacrifices. I was in the store with welfare checks and food stamps and felt that shame and embarrassment because my family has a lot of pride and hated having to use any assistance.
The way I was brought up is why I do this despite the terrible working conditions, because for all the families that take game the system, the ones who really need it make it worth the frustration.
It's why I was worked in a hospital for ten years, and volunteered as a teachers aide for troubled youth in minority school districts. Don't ever make assumptions when you know nothing about me or what I've been through and deal with day in and day out ACTUALLY trying to help as much families as possible.
But you just said that 9/10 of the people you help are scammers?
Ah, Poe's law'd myself. Reading the first few pages pissed me off enough to miss the sarcasm, I suppose. I know enough people that legitimately think like that so I was just immediately seeing red.
Really? Charts on maximizing benefits through childbirth? Training children to get more money?That's literally the reality of my situation. I work at a scatter shelter site that is contracted by the State and in my experience being here as a case worker, this is what I've experienced. I'm not making a blanket statement for all scatter sites, or every program that provides assistance across the country, or even the race of said people who are taking advantage.
It's just what I've been through, and it's why social work has an extremely high turnover rate. Some people hate how frustrating it is to try and make an impact only to realize it's just somebodies hustle.
I've seen charts people make about how to have kids so they can maximize benefits, or seen families train there kids on how to act in front of child services to try and get more money for their monthly benefit.
It's a lot of ugly, but as I said multiple times, it's worth it and the programs have value because familes who NEED it like mine did and the others I've met and helped make dealing with all that ugly worthwhile.
Really? Charts on maximizing benefits through childbirth? Training children to get more money?
My bestie actually handled all the formalities (completing paperwork, phoning the attorney, etc.) for me the first time I applied because I couldn't emotionally handle it. What I was mostly tasked to do--besides necessary interviews, such as with my attorney and Social Security, and appearing before the judge--was find and regularly visit doctors, therapists, and psychiatrists to analyze me and help establish for the court the severity of my mental illness. (The other dimension of my case was the record of my suicide attempt and hospital/recovery center stay.) Just handling this responsibility was tremendously taxing on my emotional state, and one which I never want to go through again.
lolit's not hard to see what car a person gets into when you leave at the same time.
Remember when Florida implemented a drug test for welfare recipients, and they busted like 100 or so people out of over 4000 recipients, while spending a hundred thousand of tax payer dollars to accomplish nothing?
Depends on the program. It's very easy to take advantage of the programs, it's hard learning and figuring out what to do to sign up when your time is limited and you never done this before.
However, you certainly can't live off it when you are in need of it. Sometimes the benefits you get isnt what you need. For example my sister gets over $600 in food each month. When she maybe needs half of that. And the $300 to go to bills or rent.
Yeah I get a whole $650 for disability. Rolling in the money with rent being $2,000. I don't know that I qualify for food assistance.
Don't ever make assumptions when you know nothing about me or what I've been through and deal with day in and day out
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔As somebody who does social work as my second job at a scatter homeless shelter, for every 10 families we get in here only 1, MAYBE, are actually here because of a hardship.
It's usually people grabbing homebase (a 10k check with a year of all bills and rent paid for in a new apartment) or some sort of government grant, and then when they use it up they move to another State and rinse and repeat.