If your definition of a draw is limited to Hogan, The Rock, Austin, and Cena, then no.
If your definition of a draw is more reasonable, then yes. He's in the Orton, Lesnar, Macho, Angle, Taker, WWF Flair, and Michaels tier.
Comparing anybody to the big 4 WWE draws is not fair. Nobody else comes close to them, and will not in the future, due to the company's desire for the actual WWE Brand to be the draw rather than individual stars.
Drawing tier is different than wrestler or performer tier. If you look at the numbers, they all kinda run together between those stars.He was not on Macho, Taker, and Michales tier
Orton and Lesnar, probably
Can't have a HHH thread without this:
Does a fantastic job of exploring the man as well as his career.
Also he's a B+ player at best.
He's right. I honestly can't think of one great, memorable match HHH has had.
pushing mick foley off a hell in a cell is the highlight of his careerHe's right. I honestly can't think of one great, memorable match HHH has had.
Also a great match Vs. Undertaker at WM 17pushing mick foley off a hell in a cell is the highlight of his career
If your definition of a draw is limited to Hogan, The Rock, Austin, and Cena, then no.
If your definition of a draw is more reasonable, then yes. He's in the Orton, Lesnar, Macho, Angle, Taker, WWF Flair, and Michaels tier.
Comparing anybody to the big 4 WWE draws is not fair. Nobody else comes close to them, and will not in the future, due to the company's desire for the actual WWE Brand to be the draw rather than individual stars.
To a degree. It's easy to minimise his role but you need someone compelling enough to go against the top faces. Austin Vs HHH was way better than Austin Vs Rikishi. He's far above the likes of Miz, Del Rio, Mahal that have held the WWE championship in recentish times.
They also sold shows and international tours on DX reunions. Even with crappy spirit squad opponents.
On the flip side he drove a lot of people away.
Uh, careful friend. CM Punk fans might get upset at this.
There are people who think that Cena was never a draw
I agree with you though. I'd say below Taker, WWF Flair and HBK, but with Orton, Lesnar, Angle, Macho etc.
Am I crazy if I say Batista was a bigger draw in the mid 00s than HHH? Cena was obviously the #1, but it felt like Batista was everywhere as well.
Yeahh, I could see that.
Brock Lesnar is S/A tier if only because how well he did in UFC which makes him a bigger reach than HHH or Jericho.People aren't saying he wasn't above Miz, Rikishi, and others. But if we have a tier list, he's a step below the top of the card and ones who exceeded the industry.
S: Rock, Austin, Hogan, and Cena - Ones who either escalated the WWE to new heights or reached past wrestling in general.
A: Macho Man, Michaels, Hart, Undertaker, Foley, etc. - Ones who could sit on top of the industry, but never punch through the higher ceiling.
B: HHH, Jericho, Angle, Brock, etc. - They are great villains, not quite as good baby faces. No issue with them holding the title, but you place the belt on them to get someone else over.
Agree on this. HHH was a decent / big deal inside WWE, buit not a big draw for anyone outside or great at expanding the audience.
Triple H was the worst actor in the world . That awards belongs to John "I can't do emotional scene " Cena .You mean the co star of blade trinity?
He is one of the biggest draws in wrestling today.
He's right. I honestly can't think of one great, memorable match HHH has had.
3 stages of hell with Austin at NWO 2001, although I hated that Triple H won it.
pushing mick foley off a hell in a cell is the highlight of his career
Am I crazy if I say Batista was a bigger draw in the mid 00s than HHH? Cena was obviously the #1, but it felt like Batista was everywhere as well.
I remember that. Remember tbe rumour they let HHH win so he could lose to Goldberg, and then HHH beats Goldberg...During his time as the leader of DX, absolutely. The time during his belt hogging while burying everyone else during the McMahon-Hemsley era in the early 2000s was when he went down. His last truly great match was against HBK at Summerslam 2001 or 02.
Also, don't forget about his racist promo he cut on Booker T leading up to their match at WM 19. The only reason Booker let Hunter say that shit to him was that the plan was for Hunter to lose the title to him at WM. But Hunter stepped in, and made them change their mind meaning that Booker got to have racist shit said to him and lost at WM as well.
2000 is literally triple h having a great match every month.He's right. I honestly can't think of one great, memorable match HHH has had.
I just never found his matches that good. They were cookie-cutter. Like Bret said, nothing ever happened that stuck with me.
Na, Cena > HHH when it comes to acting. The Peacemaker role saved Cena, he played it perfectly. Funny thing is.........I don't think he gets emotional at all in the movie lol.Triple H was the worst actor in the world . That awards belongs to John "I can't do emotional scene " Cena .
Wasn't he part of Mayweather's entourage once and the commentators didn't even mention him?
He was a star but if I didn't watch wrestling I probably wouldn't know who he was at all. He was like 2nd tier at the time but just about everyone was behind Austin and The Rock though.
Dude knew how to make people look great though. The selling he did for Bryan here was insane lmao