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If we got a Zelda Collection with OoT and MM would you prefer they be based on the originals or the 3DS remakes?
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3DS. I just wish they'd fix the fall into roll bug in OoT and revert back to the original Zora controls in MM. Oh and move the bank back in its alley, it doesn't make any sense to have it behind the clock tower. I'm seriously angry about that!
Sure? I'm not going to die on a hill over this or anything, it's a mild annoyance in an otherwise stellar game that didn't affect my overall opinion on it. If they can fix it, cool, if not, cool. I still prefer the N64 version all day even with this issue being present.
Nothing they changed in MM impacts the core mechanisms of the game, which are brilliant.
I mean, they in-arguably ruined the transformations, specifically the Zora form and, to a lesser extent, the Deku form, while arbitrarily making a lot of the game either pointless or tedious.
It's far from turning the game into garbage. 'Ruined' is a strong word to describe what they did.
I'd call swimming a core mechanic, and the save system, and the bomber notebook, and the boss fights. They are all significantly worse in the 3DS version. The visual "upgrade" was anything but as well (completely ruining the atmosphere), bar a few QoL changes the 3DS version did nothing right.
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Nope. I care about Majora's Mask, which is why I want the 3DS version.
3DS for sure, then return Zora swimming and Twinmold to how they worked on N64. Boom, you've got a perfect collection.
Bonus points if a Bunny hood equivalent is added to Ocarina, that's the main reason I prefer Majora.
Bonus points if a Bunny hood equivalent is added to Ocarina, that's the main reason I prefer Majora.
I mean, they factually did ruin the transformations insofar as the original game's world and dungeons and environments were built around how they functioned on the Nintendo 64. Deku Link's momentum gain being nerfed in particular is extremely egregious with regards to how much it's needed for jumping on lily pads.
If they don't fix Deku Link's momentum, it's in no way perfect.
I'm actually okay with either. I love both versions of OOT and MM.
I didn't realize there was a lot of vocal dislike for MM3D. I've played MM so many times, but I never had any gripes with the 3DS version (granted I've only played this version once and it was five years ago). I'll take Majora's Mask in any format, tbh.
I didn't realize there was a lot of vocal dislike for MM3D. I've played MM so many times, but I never had any gripes with the 3DS version (granted I've only played this version once and it was five years ago). I'll take Majora's Mask in any format, tbh.
So what about the 3DS version in your eyes is such an overwhelming improvement that it makes up for those swimming controls and boss fights? The fixed fan version I could understand.
You should look into the changes made to the boss fights, the Zora Link swimming, and Deku Link momentum. It's tragic, because those changes are so unnecessary and actively ruin large chunks of the game.
I would welcome a return to the original Deku physics, but it honestly didn't hinder my enjoyment much.
I haven't played both versions of each in a long time, so it's hard to say. Consistency-wise, if they did one, they'd probably only include one and it'd be that generation's version (so in this case N64). I picture OoT, WW, and TP. They'd probably spin off and release SS separately since it's the most recent and stands to gain the most with a new control scheme and other features.
I never got to play the 3DS versions of any of them but I hold them as the definitive versions. A lot of enhancements without changing the core game. (Unlike the Mario 64 DS remake.) So just port those. I wouldn't want them to just throw the N64 ROMs on a cart. Obviously I'd want big changes. And since they already have nicer polished versions available just bring them over.
They won't though. I hope I get to eat my hat though.
They won't though. I hope I get to eat my hat though.
For the love of God, please no more original shitty 64 graphics, unless it's a toggle option. That deserves a spot on VC Nintendo online.
3DS actually looks like the box art/promo art. But I also want an actual upgrade beyond 1080p. Would it kill them to increase lighting, shadows etc. Not asking for a remake with a character model redesign.
Edit: yes minimum 30fps framerate like 3ds versions too
3DS actually looks like the box art/promo art. But I also want an actual upgrade beyond 1080p. Would it kill them to increase lighting, shadows etc. Not asking for a remake with a character model redesign.
Edit: yes minimum 30fps framerate like 3ds versions too
It looks better and has a better saving system.
I don't see any issue with the boss fights.
I would prefer a "best of all worlds" with fixed swimming, Deku momentum, etc.
... But the 3DS version is still my preferred version. The save system is incredibly more forgiving and respectful of my time and availability. Having lost HOURS of progress in prior versions before (whether they be botching the very end of the Kafei quest, or the Gamecube version freezing on me after clearing a dungeon, collecting all its fairies, obtains several heart pieces and masks, etc.), being able to just save the game is amazing.
Visually, it's also my preferred version, with the refined visuals and animation really bringing the dreamlike and surreal Termina world to life in a way the N64 just wasn't able to. Seeing it in HD emulation is life-changing and I don't think I can go back.
I actually enjoy a lot of the boss changes (not all of them), and the redone Bomber's Notebook makes keeping track of people, events, and schedules significantly more manageable. Stuff like the Zora egg quest is a LOT smoother, the addition of my ever-favorite fishing game was delightful, the additional 2nd-stick camera controls are great, gyroscopic aiming is intuitive, and the Song of Double Time allowing you to jump to the EXACT hour you need to be at is a massive time saver. The remixed fairy locations were mostly better too (with TWO exceptions...), and it's just a significantly more clear and focused experience. There's new sidequests even.
Yes, I do wish a few alterations would be fixed, but overall this is still a phenomenal upgrade over the original, I believe.
I had forgotten about the changes to some controls. I'd heard about them. I guess they could just revert them?
Either way, I'd be happy enough with the 64 versions with widescreen and tweaked modernized controls. But seeing as they couldn't give Mario 64 widescreen we'll probably just get 720p 4:3 and have to suck it.
Just give me them in some form really. All I have is the GameCube ports and Wii VC versions. I'd rather have them on my Switch so I can buy them one last time.
Either way, I'd be happy enough with the 64 versions with widescreen and tweaked modernized controls. But seeing as they couldn't give Mario 64 widescreen we'll probably just get 720p 4:3 and have to suck it.
Just give me them in some form really. All I have is the GameCube ports and Wii VC versions. I'd rather have them on my Switch so I can buy them one last time.
Both would fit on a Switch card, so...
But the best would be a clever mix of both, with some added improvements. OoT desperately needs a free camera option and a dedicated "change boots" button in the absence of a second screen, and a lot of the changes made to MM on 3DS weren't for the better. Keep the QoL features in the Bomber's Notebook and stuff like that, but gimme back the old Zora swimming and forget you ever did that shit with the demon eyes or whatever those things were on the bosses. Changes to the Twinmold boss fights weren't that bad though, the problem with both versions of that is the camera. Also, I preferred the save system in the N64 original, but I think I'm not in the majority there, lol.
But the best would be a clever mix of both, with some added improvements. OoT desperately needs a free camera option and a dedicated "change boots" button in the absence of a second screen, and a lot of the changes made to MM on 3DS weren't for the better. Keep the QoL features in the Bomber's Notebook and stuff like that, but gimme back the old Zora swimming and forget you ever did that shit with the demon eyes or whatever those things were on the bosses. Changes to the Twinmold boss fights weren't that bad though, the problem with both versions of that is the camera. Also, I preferred the save system in the N64 original, but I think I'm not in the majority there, lol.
I'm expecting the N64 releases cleaned up a bit. I do prefer the 3DS editions, especially for Majora's, mostly because the schedule tracking they added was a nice QOL bonus. I get the gripes for the differences, but the 3DS editions are just great. I really don't expect an All-Stars type collection though.
In ocarina the roll is different I want the original roll. It was satisfying to do.