Your response to my statement that some European countries have mandated vaccines is asserting that some didn't? Here is an overview of the vaccination schedule per EU country:
Vaccine Scheduler | ECDC
Giving insight in the vaccine schedules in all countries of the EU, provided by the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC).
vaccine-schedule.ecdc.europa.eu
And of course that doesn't take into account countries where vaccines aren't mandatory, but enough people are in any case vaccinated because the vaccination is done through schools. Like I'm quite sure I only managed to avoid getting them from the school doctors by having proof that I got them from my personal GP.
The Moon, which currently has 0 COVID-19 cases, 0 deaths. The Sun if they press the issue.
People who refuse should be airdropped on to a private island. Preferably one with Dinosaurs running amok.
I have seen interviews with people who work on vacancies warning about companies rushing to get vaccines out. Don't pretend as if it isn't a valid concern and that it puts people into the antivaxer group.
Yea go listen to Paul Offit talk about the decades it took to develop the rotovirus vaccine and then we can talk about how we are gonna have a widely useable, safe vaccine for this shit in two years. I just don't see how it's possible.
I looked up TB vaccine and found this interesting article from yesterday.
Mandated TB vaccination predicts flattened curves for COVID-19 spread
ANN ARBOR—If the United States had mandatory tuberculosis vaccination in place several decades prior, the total number of coronavirus-related deaths might not have reached triple digits by late March. In fact, according to a new University of Michigan report, the U.S. would have suffered an estim
news.umich.edu
yes it should be a requirement for everybody that can take it. any job or school should have everybody take it unless there is some health reason they cannot. by health reason i mean an actual reason and not some excuse provided by a quack doctor just looking to get paid for the note. any excuse needs to be carefully looked at and verified if the person is exempt.
My bad, I misread your post as basically saying "Europe doesn't mandate and it's doing fine." That's on me trying to post while working, and I apologize.
If you have a medical condition that prevents it, sure, skip it, like every vaccine.
But if you're a precious little shit who's decided they'd count on others, fuck you, and there should be a price to pay. Like with other vaccines.
But if you're a precious little shit who's decided they'd count on others, fuck you, and there should be a price to pay. Like with other vaccines.
The last part is exactly why everybody else should be required to take the vaccine.
I agree 100%. It's a travesty that insulin (and most generic drugs) are not being manufactured at scale by the govt. There have been some horror stories coming out of those "generic labs" making these drugs. Antibiotics and vaccines are not on big pharmas radar at all due to the limited amount of $ they can make on it. Really, read "An American sickness". It's a depressing read, I had to read it in several sittings.
Haven't taken the vaccine? No treatment for you!
Leave the treatment/ICU beds for people who can't take it or who have taken it but it's not proved effective for whatever reason.
Leave the treatment/ICU beds for people who can't take it or who have taken it but it's not proved effective for whatever reason.
It def would be mandatory for "essential" workers (healthcare especially) and for schools so basically everyone would have to get it
Imagine opting to put yourself and others at risk then call it a violation of your rights to have s forced vaccination.
you can prob have one while unconscious
That's not how it works. Letting stupid people get sick puts at risk people that can't take a vaccine for medical reasons. Herd Immunity requires forcing as many people as possible to take the vaccine.
The stupid people will get other people infected and weaken herd immunity
Not really how it works. The fewer people vaccinated, the higher the chance for an eventual mutation that nullifies the vaccine. Also Vaccines don't 100% work on all the people who take them forever. Vaccines aren't an end in and of themselves, the goal is to leverage herd immunity into driving the virus into eventual extinction.
It's been enforced in America without much of an issue for over 100 years.
Has it? We haven't even use the smallpox vaccine on the population in the past 37 years.
Forcing it isn't necessary. It'll end up backfiring if it's forced. Just make it mandatory for schools and adults will follow suit.
Seeing how we are struggling right now, it will be a mandatory vaccination for sure in France.
Not having it will bar you from being a public servant, registering to schools, and most likely most businesses will require a vaccination certificate, unless you are allergic to all formulations (unlikely but could exist).
At least the first few years, then maybe relax if the recurring strains are not as bad, with strong recommendation remaining for the elderly and voluntary (and free) for the others. .
Not having it will bar you from being a public servant, registering to schools, and most likely most businesses will require a vaccination certificate, unless you are allergic to all formulations (unlikely but could exist).
At least the first few years, then maybe relax if the recurring strains are not as bad, with strong recommendation remaining for the elderly and voluntary (and free) for the others. .
I don't like being put to sleep either, the idea of it freaks me out. Too similar to what I think dying would be like.
Yes, unless it is a live vaccine and the person is immunocompromised such that they can't get the vaccine
It's pretty much like going to sleep. You can even take gas and air which just makes you a bit light headed and it's all over within seconds.
Assuming its proven safe and effective yes without a doubt. In fact we need to enforce more vaccinations. I'm not super well versed in each one but from a layman's perspective it seems insane that we don't require for example the HPV vaccine. It prevents a form a cancer for fucks sake.
I mean, ask for a xanax or to be blindfolded, worst come to worst.
I'm still wondering how are they are going to distribute it. I'm guessing they'll start from oldest to youngest.
Because smallpox was declared eliminated in 1980 with the last cases occurring in America in the 40's. That's the end goal for any vaccine, to use it to element the disease entirely.
Not necessarily, school children, for instance, should be prioritized. Because schools are generally a hotbed for disease transmission and because preexisting school infrastructure will make it easier. You need to get the biggest chunks of the population vaccinated as quickly as possible. Doing that will protect at risk groups more than giving them the vaccine directly.
actually younger people are bigger spreaders so it depends on how prevalent the virus is at that time
Thanks, I'm aware of the facts. How exactly do you see mandatory vaccination of adults working out post in post-2020 America?
I was super confused by your question, so I stuck with the basics.
I am not sure how the cessation of the smallpox vaccine relates to the fact that state-issued, mandatory vaccinations have been the understood law of the land for over 100 years. Why would one of the greatest examples of the efficacy of mandatory vaccine programs be a piece of evidence against mandatory vaccination programs?
A law being on the books is different than it being "enforced" for 100 years. Correct me if I'm wrong, but no one's been vaccinated under that law for at least 37 years.
We're not in the 70s anymore. Sure, you start the US's largest free vaccination programme, roll it out across the country. What do you do with the people who refuse in a country sitting on almost 400 million guns?
Not a law on the books, a landmark Supreme Court ruling. Currently 31 states have some sort of mandatory vaccine law that has no exemption for personal philosophical reasons. Those states have varying levels of religious exemptions. This has been the established status quo and the trend over the last decade has been in the direction of further narrowing and eliminating exemptions.
The two states that have mandatory vaccination laws with absolutely no exemptions of any kind are Mississippi and West Virgina, which kind of runs counter to your theory that gun owners are going to rise up against forced vaccinations.