I mean let's be real, he should've lost his job after dropping the N word on TV. If that wasn't going to do it, then nothing will at this point.
Why are you cool with bigotsOh and he still has a job because he's good at what he does. He says things I agree with, things I disagree with and things I feel he's totally out of line on.. but that's ok. We can't be afraid or prevent people from voicing an opinion we disagree with out from saying things that offend.
Correct answer.
We can't be afraid of opinion or be afraid of getting offended. More important things to worry about.
Like why the fuck are we NOT talking about these wet markets? It is a huge problem.
Oh and he still has a job because he's good at what he does. He says things I agree with, things I disagree with and things I feel he's totally out of line on.. but that's ok. We can't be afraid or prevent people from voicing an opinion we disagree with out from saying things that offend.
Bro, the entire rant starts by whitewashing Trump's attempt to racially charge the virus by naming it the Chinese Virus/Wuhan Flu(liberal scientists have named it by place forever he says), segued into critiquing liberals for focusing on this issue(even bringing back his islamphobic fights to discredit and broad brush liberals by claiming they are in favor of Islamic extremism), then moving onto the wet markets as if liberals are ignoring it(they arent), and wrapping it all up with a reactionary xenophobic rant.
Looking forward to the answer to this.If transphobia and bigotry isn't enough to call for someone's firing, what the fuck is in your world?
Do people think here really think Bill Maher is some kind right ring hack or apologist? He has lots of bad takes, but if you were to actually watch his show, 80% of what he says is more closely aligned with Resetera than anything resembling right wing. The points constantly mentioned here are the only differences.
His "New Rule" segments are mostly stuff like this, him going all in on republicans and their hate of democracy
he calls out the racism targeted at chinese americans and clearly abhors it. however, he's definitely arguing for linking the virus to china as much as possible, but it doesn't seem to me like it's coming from a place of racism toward chinese people but rather a hatred for the chinese government's inaction.Bro, the entire rant starts by whitewashing Trump's attempt to racially charge the virus by naming it the Chinese Virus/Wuhan Flu(liberal scientists have named it by place forever), segued into critiquing liberals for focusing on it too much, then moving onto the wet markets as if liberals are ignoring it(they arent), and wrapping it all up with a reactionary xenophobic rant.
well they probably are disproportionately involved in sex crimes, milo is just conveniently leaving out that they're the victims lol
This is not the same thing. Milo is not equal to Maher. Come on, seriously? Milo advocates dangerous beliefs and uses his platform to promote hate. This is not the same thing.Is it just his opinion that "the Muslim world has too much in common with Isis" and that Palestine "is perpetually hostile, a coiled snake" and is it the viewers' fault if they're offended?
How do you feel about Milo being banned from social media?
right... that's the point. Maher just shrugs it off. like "sunlight" doesn't disinfect if you don't have facts or rebuttals.
No one is the same. Your stance is a logically fallacy."If you ignore all the times he isn't the same, he is exactly the same"
But he is."If you ignore all the times he isn't the same, he is exactly the same"
I agree that it shouldnt be called the Chinese virus. Wuhan maybe. But this whole name changing scheme has WHO corruption written all over it. The WHO decided to not name the disease SARS because in their own words it would have 'unintended consequences in terms of creating unnecessary fear for some populations.' I mean yeah, people should fear it. But Im sure the real reason is because SARS is already associated with China and they didnt want this new outbreak to be associated with them as well."We should name it based on where it originated because that's how we've always done it!"
Preserving outdated, tradition-centric racism-fueling behavior is pure conservatism, regardless of what he thinks his arguments for it are.
But he is.
He's pro choice
He's pro environment
He's very anti-gun and pro gun regulation
He's for higher taxes
And on and on.
He has said many terrible things. That I won't disagree, but Maher is a Democrat, through and through. At the same time, I have no issue with ppl attacking some of his more dumb takes, which he has plenty.
I have no disagreement here. I wouldn't say he represents ERA. But he will vote with ERA if that makes sense.He is also Transphobic, Misogynist, and virulently islamaphobic.
You can add even more racism to the list now.
So he represents Era just like that poster says right?
Bill Maher has mocked sexual harrassment victims, defended Brett Kavanaugh, thrown the fried chicken epithet at a black guest, blamed Palestinians for the Israeli occupation, said it's OK to annex land you win in a war, mocked dead people for not being culturally significant enough, defended whitewashing of LGBT representation in biopics of famously gay people, given Milo a platform and gone full-on Islamophobic by comparing all Muslims to ISIS and saying they will kill you if you say the wrong thing.
Which part of that don't you have a problem with?
He is also Transphobic, Misogynist, and virulently islamaphobic.
You can add even more racism to the list now.
So he represents Era just like that poster says right?
In a new episode of Real Time With Bill Maher on Friday, host Maher questioned why the novel coronavirus isn't named after the country in which it derived from. The late-night host used his "New Rule" segment to explore the issue, specifically titling it "Virus Shaming."
"Scientists, who are generally pretty liberal, have been naming diseases after the places they came from for a very long time," Maher began. "Zika is from the Zika forest; Ebola from the Ebola river. Hantavirus from the Hantan river. There is the West Nile virus and Guinea Worm and Rocky Mountain spotted fever, and of course, the Spanish flu. MERS stands for Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome, it's plastered all over airports and no one blogs about it."
Referring to the coronavirus, which originated in Wuhan, China, Maher then asked, "So why should China get a pass?" He referenced a tweet from Congressman Ted Lieu, where he said "The virus is not constrained by country or race. Be just as stupid to call it the Milan virus." Maher said in response, "No, that would be way stupider because it didn't come from Milan. And if it did, I guarantee we'd be calling it the Milan Virus. Jesus fucking Christ, can't we even have a pandemic without getting offended? When they named Lyme Disease after a town in Connecticut, the locals didn't get all ticked off."
I have no disagreement here. I wouldn't say he represents ERA. But he will vote with ERA if that makes sense.
I'm confused, didn't he back Bernie in 2016 and basically begged people to vote for Hillary on his show every week because he knew Trump actually had a chance? I know Maher is a douche but this seems like a huge switch up for him. Must've finally gotten tired of the left telling him to not be a bigoted asshole.
This is not the same thing. Milo is not equal to Maher. Come on, seriously? Milo advocates dangerous beliefs and uses his platform to promote hate. This is not the same thing.
oh i thought milo was trying to attack trans people in that moment
seems a more likely thing for him to do, but maybe im wrong
This is not the same thing. Milo is not equal to Maher. Come on, seriously? Milo advocates dangerous beliefs.
We can't be afraid or prevent people from voicing an opinion we disagree with out from saying things that offend.
I don't want to live in a society that is afraid of being offended. If he or anyone says something that upsets you or offends you or you feel is outrageous, then voice your opinion and discuss the subject and why he or that person is wrong. Choosing to instead believe someone shouldn't have a job is not the answer.
Do people think here really think Bill Maher is some kind right ring hack or apologist? He has lots of bad takes, but if you were to actually watch his show, 80% of what he says is more closely aligned with Resetera than anything resembling right wing. The points constantly mentioned here are the only differences.
His "New Rule" segments are mostly stuff like this, him going all in on republicans and their hatred of democracy, never the "both sides" nonsense.
Maher has basically called Muslims incomparable with America and indistinguishable from Isis. That all Arab men abuse their significant others.This is not the same thing. Milo is not equal to Maher. Come on, seriously? Milo advocates dangerous beliefs.
For those who don't want to give him any views:
Bill Maher Questions Naming of Coronavirus: “Why Should China Get a Pass?”
In a new episode of HBO's 'Real Time With Bill Maher' on Friday, the late-night host explored the history of diseases being named after countries in which they originated.www.hollywoodreporter.com
Never mind the fact that scientists are not referring it as the Chines virus (SARS 2 is probably a good nickname since it's from a similar strain). Scientists don't use names to vilify a people. That's what right-wingers are doing by referring to it as the 'Chinese virus'. Hell, it's called the Spanish flu because Spain had the audacity to accurately count the number of infected.
Look, China shares a good amount of blame for not informing the rest of the world of the extent of the disease in time (even now). But I don't for the love of me understand why calling it the Chinese virus helps anyone when anyone can find out about the origin with a quick Google search and that there's a decent chance the disease will be endemic around the world. The real question is why is Bill Maher is so insistent in calling it the 'Chinese virus' in the first place.
he IS trying to attack trans people and Maher doesn't do ANYTHING to challenge him at all. Thus, he's shit at his "job"
real tough pushback here...
The right better look out with a leftist advocate this strong...
I havent got any problems with him.
The left needs pundits to be able to react against the right.
He is also Transphobic, Misogynist, and islamaphobic.
You can add even more racism to the list now.
So he represents Era just like that poster says right?
Do people think here really think Bill Maher is some kind right ring hack or apologist? He has lots of bad takes, but if you were to actually watch his show, 80% of what he says is more closely aligned with Resetera than anything resembling right wing. The points constantly mentioned here are the only differences.
His "New Rule" segments are mostly stuff like this, him going all in on republicans and their hatred of democracy, never the "both sides" nonsense.
first, wow what a moving goal post. the quote thread started with a poster declaring he wasn't a "right wing hack or apologist" not a resetera representative.
second, no one on the planet could live up to era's standards.
Literally a 2-second gif out of probably 25 minutes of content between the two. Milo's career crashed and burned after going on that show and his Pedo CPAC speech.real tough pushback here...
The right better look out with a leftist advocate this strong...
Maher was always closely aligned with parts of the new atheist/skeptic community (like, for example, Sam Harris) who broke away from that movement during the early 2010s(and who, along with Gamer Gate, was pivotal in creating the "anti-SJW" online sentiment at the time) and eventually joined up with Jordan Peterson, Rubin and the like to become the alt-lite/intellectual dark web.
To sum it up, Maher and his ilk consciously made the decision to join right-wing grifters and have essentially have been radicalizing themselves further to the right since at least the mid-2010s.
Not going to go into this minefield but I just want to say:
Literally a 2-second gif out of probably 25 minutes of content between the two. Milo's career crashed and burned after going on that show and his Pedo CPAC speech.
We don't give a shit about the times he agrees with progressive values when he spouts bigoted shit. Nobody wants or should want "allies" like that.Do people think here really think Bill Maher is some kind right ring hack or apologist? He has lots of bad takes, but if you were to actually watch his show, 80% of what he says is more closely aligned with Resetera than anything resembling right wing. The points constantly mentioned here are the only differences.
Bigotry is just like.....opinions and stuff!
i read the whole post. he's right, 80% of maher's political opinions align with progressives. so saying he aligns with 80% of era is absolutely correct, it doesn't mean he's saying he's a representative of era either. but anyone calling him a right wing hack is either ignorant or lying.You could follow my posts and see what argument i was having with someone, the poster i responded to, literally said 80% of mahe would represent Era.
Im not the person that brought Era into this conversation. im arguing against it.
This is all literally on the same page of this thread.