Yes, it's where Jean Grey gets her telepathic power. (Thanks, Wolvie!)
Less angsty, cynical, and angry?
I ask this in complete seriousness as a cis straight dude who hopes to be schooled by your answer - isnt the Bisexual label most applicable in your circumstance?
I don't think you know what objectifying is neither what a friendzone is.Boy this is one goddamned objectifying thread title.
Women are humans man.
I'd be interested to read why you think RDreamer was wrong. The concept of feeling friend-zoned is almost entirely one of objectification. You view the person as someone to have sex with and not worth your time otherwise. How is that not objectification?I don't think you know what objectifying is neither what a friendzone is.
Probably not. People are trying to attribute personal anecdotes to nuanced situations. The poster two above you for instance is stating that the concept of the friend-zone is nearly almost always about objectification, which just seems like projection; though Tbf, given the context of the situation, the OP seems like they're objectifying the person they like.We all need to drop and do 5 sets of 20.
It'll help facilitate meaningful dialogue.
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I'm sure it's happened but my very loose rule of thumb is that if she doesn't like you within like 2 weeks at most, it's isn't happening.
You really underestimate the power of
- hitting the gym and getting some muscle
- growing a beard
- having a big nice looking dick
Probably not. People are trying to attribute personal anecdotes to nuanced situations. The poster two above you for instance is stating that the concept of the friend-zone is nearly almost always about objectification, which just seems like projection.
Alex, What is prostitution for $600?"How do I bang a person who has shown no romantic interest in me?"
So apparently horrible people on the internet have ruined a term that worked perfectly fine like 20 years ago to describe unrequited feelings and getting told "I like you as a friend"?
Damn.
I always thought the whole "nice guy" thing was called "simping" instead? I guess my terminology is really behind.
I thought this was about talking whether people had gotten into a situation like that (as it sometimes happens with imperfect beings such as humans) but I guess this thread is effectively asking about instructions on how to manipulate someone into having sex with you and I don't want any part of that.
The good thing is that almost nobody (hopefully next time) has given him what he was asking for.I thought this was about talking whether people had gotten into a situation like that (as it sometimes happens with imperfect beings such as humans) but I guess this thread is effectively asking about instructions on how to manipulate someone into having sex with you and I don't want any part of that.
I don't think you know what objectifying is neither what a friendzone is.
Plus the "you turn into a fwb" is all sorts of objectifying. It's not "the relationship changes," which would be humanizing. It's like some game or something you're manipulating.I'd be interested to read why you think RDreamer was wrong. The concept of feeling friend-zoned is almost entirely one of objectification. You view the person as someone to have sex with and not worth your time otherwise. How is that not objectification?
FriendZone means that person A meets person B, but shortly afterwards person B decided consciously or unconsciously not reciprocate in any sexual way with A.I'd be interested to read why you think RDreamer was wrong. The concept of feeling friend-zoned is almost entirely one of objectification. You view the person as someone to have sex with and not worth your time otherwise. How is that not objectification?
FriendZone means that person A meets person B, but shortly afterwards person B decided consciously or unconsciously not reciprocate in any sexual way with A.
What else is there to understand? Why the f does that has to be a bad thing?
Because the term has been weaponized as an attempt to chastise women for some perceived sleight. That's why it's a bad thing.FriendZone means that person A meets person B, but shortly afterwards person B decided consciously or unconsciously not reciprocate in any sexual way with A.
What else is there to understand? Why the f does that has to be a bad thing?
OP is entitle to feel whatever he wants, but by all mean he must be honest with him and her if he is going to hang out with her.
Did you married all the people you fucked?
Did you boyfriended all the guys you fucked?
FriendZone means that person A meets person B, but shortly afterwards person B decided consciously or unconsciously not reciprocate in any sexual way with A.
What else is there to understand? Why the f does that has to be a bad thing?
OP is entitle to feel whatever he wants, but by all mean he must be honest with him and her if he is going to hang out with her.
Did you married all the people you fucked?
Did you boyfriended all the guys you fucked?
All of them, your opinions and assumptions.So then fucking describe the relationship with the person. The term friendzone has a dehumanizing negative connotation. It also puts the onus on person B. All of the negativity is on them. It's like they're victimizing person A by burdening them with only friendship.
The phrasing in the OP also continues the typical friendzone application where it seems like some sort of manipulated game. "I put so much niceness points in but she won't fuck me? Has anyone got this to work?"
I dont know thats sounds like projection.Because the term has been weaponized as an attempt to chastise women for some perceived sleight. That's why it's a bad thing.
Generally speaking not only women because women does want sex too and can be rejected. And reject and being rejected is a good thing.Generally speaking, women don't friend-zone men as an arbitrary action. If you ask woman out and she declines, it's not because some imaginary line has been crossed and she can only see you as a friend now. It's because she's not attracted to you, or isn't ready to date, or doesn't think you have enough to offer, or any other natural reason.
The blame and the complaining part is in your head, sorry.Which is why saying that someone has friend-zoned you is completely inappropriate, because it's laying the blame on them for some false entitlement that you're claiming. When you're complaining that someone put you in the friend zone, you're complaining that the body you want to fuck won't let you fuck it. That's disgusting.
I'd be interested to read why you think RDreamer was wrong. The concept of feeling friend-zoned is almost entirely one of objectification. You view the person as someone to have sex with and not worth your time otherwise. How is that not objectification?
I'm not projecting, you daft cretin. I'm telling you my lived experience and the shared experiences of hundreds of women like me. We get blamed for friend-zoning guys who spend weeks if not years pretending to be our friends, only because they thought we might eventually become sexually available to them, and then they get mad when their advances are rejected. And it hurts. It fucking hurts to find out that someone whom you thought of as a friend only saw you as someone they eventually would be able to fuck.All of them, your opinions and assumptions.
I dont know thats sounds like projection.
Generally speaking not only women because women does want sex too and can be rejected. And reject and being rejected is good thing.
The blame part is in your head, sorry.
I'm not talking about what it could mean or should mean. I'm talking about the spiteful context it's used in on the internet to malign women who reject their friends advances, as if their autonomy and personhood is a lower priority.this is not what it is at all, it is one individual interested in a physical relationship while the other does not
that is it, nothing more, nothing less.
this is not what it is at all, it is one individual interested in a physical relationship while the other does not
that is it, nothing more, nothing less.
Well you already told me everything, did insulting me made you feel better now?I'm not projecting, you daft cretin. I'm telling you my lived experience and the shared experiences of hundreds of women like me. We get blamed for friend-zoning guys who spend weeks if not years pretending to be our friends, only because they thought we might eventually become sexually available to them, and then they get mad when their advances are rejected. And it hurts. It fucking hurts to find out that someone whom you thought of as a friend only saw you as someone they eventually would be able to fuck.
If you're going to be too cowardly or too stupid or too hateful to accept that this is something that continually happens, then I don't know what else to tell you.
I'm not talking about what it could mean or should mean. I'm talking about the spiteful context it's used in on the internet to malign women who reject their friends advances, as if their autonomy and personhood is a lower priority.
This is gaslighting.All of them, your opinions and assumptions.
I dont know thats sounds like projection.
Generally speaking not only women because women does want sex too and can be rejected. And reject and being rejected is a good thing.
The blame and the complaining part is in your head, sorry.
You don't get to play the moral authority card when you're the one defending misogynistic attitudes.Well you already told me everything, did insulting me made you feel better now?
Confused by people saying the friendzone is "made up" or "not real". Arent all words? Yes it comes from a place of sexism and Im not defending people who use it, but shouldnt people be making that argument rather than saying its "not real"? Genuine question, I simply dont understand.
You dont get to play anything, If you are not going to argue in good faith and just force your believes, there is the ignore button right up in your user dashboard.You don't get to play the moral authority card when you're the one defending misogynistic attitudes.
It's just the sunk cost fallacy at work. "I've already invested in trying to sleep with X person, so I should keep investing in that eventuality".Plus you're not gonna sleep with 99% of the women you meet in your life anyway, and pursuing one whose not interested is the least effective way of getting an SO or socialising properly.
As a rule, I report trolls instead of ignoring them. You know damn well that you don't have a single point to actually counter me with, otherwise you'd stop this gas lighting.You dont get to play anything, If you are not going to argue in good faith and just force your believes, there is the ignore button right up in your user dashboard.
Your experience is not the experience of all people and that's a fact. And we are not discussing your experience. Your sole experience is not enough as a premise to determine the general experience.It's just the sunk cost fallacy at work. "I've already invested in trying to sleep with X person, so I should keep investing in that eventuality".
As a rule, I report trolls instead of ignoring them. You know damn well that you don't have a single point to actually counter me with, otherwise you'd stop this gas lighting.
Don't think we've not noticed you putting the moves on them.never, but then i dont have any friends, well, besides Fat4all
You don't know me.Bruh, I saw you in the crush thread.
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LOLBruh, I saw you in the crush thread.
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