which of the mcu movies are great?
I dunno if any of them are great either, but Infinity War/Endgame are more entertaining than all the Star Wars movies to me.
Even hotter Hot Take: The Last Jedi is better than any MCU Film
100% yes. They're a bigger deal now and they'll have a bigger cultural impact 30 years from now.
I love Star Wars, and I love those films, but the entire series is pretty much using 2 good films from over 40 years ago as their reason to exist. They're just not as culturally relevant or impactful to the general public any more.
I love Star Wars, and I love those films, but the entire series is pretty much using 2 good films from over 40 years ago as their reason to exist. They're just not as culturally relevant or impactful to the general public any more.
This post can work both ways so I don't even know what the point of it is.But I was told by Star Wars fans that they won't be. So they won't.
Honestly let's just put it out there. This thread, while maybe not the intention of the OP, mainly exists now just to let Star Wars fans wank each other about how their franchise is soooo much better.
It's speaks to a level of insecurity that some can't even comprehend that maybe people actually like MCU movies and will keep watching them. Like they fear people will forget about Star Wars or something.
But I was told by Star Wars fans that they won't be. So they won't.
Honestly let's just put it out there. This thread, while maybe not the intention of the OP, mainly exists now just to let Star Wars fans wank each other about how their franchise is soooo much better.
It's speaks to a level of insecurity that some can't even comprehend that maybe people actually like MCU movies and will keep watching them. Like they fear people will forget about Star Wars or something.
This post can work both ways so I don't even know what the point of it is.
Ah yes because only Star Wars fans are like this. People who enjoy the MCU would never do that...Cause Star Wars fans tend to act far more smugly and matter of factory. Like they aren't merely stating opinion, it's framed as being OBJECTIVE FACT.
Also not sure how the last part of my post can go both ways. How many MCU fans are saying no one will remember Star Wars?
Ah yes because only Star Wars fans are like this. People who enjoy the MCU would never do that...
I don't think a single scene in the MCU reaches the emotional highs of the OT/TFA/TLJ.
The MCU movies are also a lot uglier in terms of cinematography.
I enjoy both franchises tho.
As a media franchise Star Wars doubles the worth of Marvel. It's far more culturally relevant today and will continue to be in the future.
Okay, if you want to get specific nobody is really acting like. And no, saying they think they're better does not fall under that description.I didn't say that they didn't. I am merely talking about this thrread.
Hell I can get down with this, and I really didn't warm up to TLJ for a good long while. I still don't think it's fantastic or anything, but it has more emotional weight to it than anything that can be found in the hollow entertainment of the MCU.
In terms of cultural impact though, I think Star Wars has yet to be dethroned. The concept of a Jedi/force user resonates with people because it's a life philosophy, and it becomes something they empathize with. It's similar to Harry Potter and the Hogwarts houses. The MCU lacks a comparable memetic thread: the fiction doesn't incorporate a relatable idea that people can take back to their daily lives like they can with the Jedi/Sith, or Gryffindor/Hufflepuff/Slytherin/Ravenclaw.
In 30 years there will be new kids that don't give a fuck about Star Wars or MCU.
Personally speaking, the subtext of Black Panther carries far more emotional weight for me than anything Star Wars has ever done, even though I wish BP was more nuanced in its story.
I would say there's two Star Wars: the franchise as a whole, and the original movie. The original movie is essentially a historic moment, in terms of mainstreaming sci-fi and templating the modern Hollywood blockbuster. I don't think that can be surpassed, nor do I think it really should be. The franchise as a whole, however, has not really lived to that standard.
And that's not a problem. Star Wars is at the end of the day a movie franchise, one that has struggled and fallen far more than it has stood strong, and in nearly every way the MCU has matched or surpassed it. As great as Empire Strikes Back is, it is honestly, well, dishonest to qualify it in such a way that disqualifies Infinity War. At this point, the only thing Star Wars truly has on the MCU hands-down is John Williams' iconic music. Everything else can be boiled down to subjectivity and decades of nostalgia.
Time is the key factor here, as it always is with threads on the cultural impact of the MCU. We're at a point where at least one generation has grown up with Star Wars ever-present in their lives. We've yet to really hit that point with the MCU, but we will.
This is a valid point, in terms of the memetics of the MCU. Anyone can be a Jedi or Sith, or a wizard in a Hogwarts house. There is an inclusivity in their premises that allows a kid to believe that they can be part of it. Superhero teams are by nature exclusive - they are specific teams of specific people with specific powers, abilities, weapons, and tools. The opening for the power fantasy isn't there, and something like an agent of SHIELD is easy to see as lesser, in the same way that being a Rebel or Stormtrooper would be. Black Widow and Hawkeye are Avengers, Maria Hill, Phil Coulson, and even Nick Fury....not so much.
Eh, not too far off. Marvel movies max out around a 7/10. I'd probably give TLJ a 6/10.Even hotter Hot Take: The Last Jedi is better than any MCU Film
Personally speaking, the subtext of Black Panther carries far more emotional weight for me than anything Star Wars has ever done, even though I wish BP was more nuanced in its story.
Imo. Star Wars has built a history on a new franchise in a short period. MCU had to take 23 films to get to the same standing.
Hot take would be an understatement for this...Lol no. MCU has what... 1 good and 1 average film out of 20? Star Wars is at least batting around the Mendoza Line.
It will never not be insane that BP performed better domestically than literally every other MCU movie other than Endgame.Black Panther feels like the odd one out with the MCU insofar as while I'm not sure it's the best film in the series, it's probably the one with the most impact as a specific film.
"Odd One Out" meaning that I think, culturally, it alone might have as big an impact as the rest of the MCU combined.
How do you think Star Wars momentum looks after Rise of Skywalker?Bigger deal now? Marvel
Biggest franchise? Star Wars
The pandemic has really killed every bit of momentum the MCU had coming off of End Game though.