Halo Infinite |OT| Comeback Evolved

[Trey]

I'm hoping that 343 gets grilled a bit more about how terrible their customization system is now that we've got some substantial bandaid fixes to speed up battle pass progression. Also, wow, someone really needs to tell them to go back and juice up these events because eesh.

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going to guess assault or FFA for winter contingency, SWAT 100 percent for tacops, koth for cyber showdown? Idk

 

[CubeApple76]

People complaining about free event rewards must have never played another GaaS game. They look about standard for what you get for those kind of things in other games. A few good things, but nothing mindblowing

 

[jem]

I finally played enough ranked matches to get ranked. Am I totally missing the feedback about what a match does for your rank? I didn't see any +/- but I only played 2 matches after getting my rank.

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There's a blue bar on your rank which I think shows the change in rank for the given play session (not just the last match).

It's really crap and a bit vague though.

 

[Xater]

People complaining about free event rewards must have never played another GaaS game. They look about standard for what you get for those kind of things in other games. A few good things, but nothing mindblowing

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Exactly they still want you to spend some money. Usually there is more event themed stuff on the shop. The free event stuff is just a nice bonus that can give you some small extra customization options.

 

[BradC00]

There is no friggin way 343 keeps FFA and SWAT behind events, is there?

 

[jem]

People complaining about free event rewards must have never played another GaaS game. They look about standard for what you get for those kind of things in other games. A few good things, but nothing mindblowing

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The biggest problem with the events isn't the crappy awards - it's the fact that 343 is clearly holding back what would have previously been standard game modes to try and make these events unique. It sucks.

When your "event" is a time limited fiesta playlist, it's not an event.

 

[Vico]

going to guess assault or FFA for winter contingency, SWAT 100 percent for tacops, koth for cyber showdown? Idk

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One of them is elimination for sure.
This mode has an achievement and was literally seen in the multiplayer Season 1 launch trailer.

That's where you probably only have one life and can revive teammates.

 

[RepairmanJack]

Mangler is an absolute beast in ranked once you get used to it.

 

[Sir_Bumble_Bee]

There is no friggin way 343 keeps FFA and SWAT behind events, is there?

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[xGeneral Ice]

I can say honestly can't complain about any maps in this game.


Except for slayer on launch base and the fact snipers don't spawn on behemoth in your respective base in pubs. BUT THATS IT. All the maps in this game are great.

 

[PanzerKraken]

The biggest problem with the events isn't the crappy awards - it's the fact that 343 is clearly holding back what would have previously been standard game modes to try and make these events unique. It sucks.

When your "event" is a time limited fiesta playlist, it's not an event.

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Yet this is not what lot of folks are complaining about.

 

[HiLife]

This latency (at least I hope it's what it is) makes some of these engagements look suspect as hell. I see/hear two bursts on my end from the same person and I'm already dead lol. Nobody assisted them either.

 

[Plywood]

Can't wait to hear what they have in store for cheaters/aimbots, etc.

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It's kind of amusing that they dumped the red reticle for PC in state of it being part of a wider strategy for combating cheating and we've still got people with wall hacks, health bars and auto aim.

#givemered

 

[Moose]

I can say honestly can't complain about any maps in this game.


Except for slayer on launch base and the fact snipers don't spawn on behemoth in your respective base in pubs. BUT THATS IT. All the maps in this game are great.

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Yeah I don't hate any map although Bazaar is merely tolerable and Launch Site is one flag only.

 

[EssBeeVee]

There is no friggin way 343 keeps FFA and SWAT behind events, is there?

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you get it when everyone unlocks BP lvl 50

 

[fracas]

Two weeks in and I still love this game. Launch Site (I think that's the name) doesn't feel great in 4v4 but that's probably my biggest complaint.

Other than that, I'd love to see the pickup weapons buffed and more playlists.

 

[Sephzilla]

Yeah the maps in this game are pretty solid, if a little visually uninspired. Recharge is probably my least favorite map. Launch Site is fine but it needs to be a BTB map.

 

[Deleted member 8166]

The maps are mostly okay. 1 or 2 are great.
But I miss some good old covenant stuff. Give me some purple and pink. 🤷 you could even make it reach themed by making it a simulation for cadets.
I also want snow.

 

[astro]

I wish one of the BTB maps had a snow theme, probably Highpower.

 

[Plywood]

You know the back room in Streets with the office desk in it? The ball got stuck under the desk. We had a temporary truce with the other team to try to free it. Considering this was solo que that was wild. Eventually the ball reset. Pretty funny.

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Had a moment on Live Fire where the ball fell through and just stood spinning around the map for about 20-30 seconds. Sadly, there was no truce between teams. 💥💀🍵🛍

 

[RepairmanJack]

The maps are mostly okay. 1 or 2 are great.
But I miss some good old covenant stuff. Give me some purple and pink. 🤷 you could even make it reach themed by making it a simulation for cadets.
I also want snow.

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This is one thing I actually think makes sense for them to hold back on. If they're tying stuff to seasons and stuff, I could totally see them holding covenant maps and weapons back until some big season type event that would have a new map or two and maybe a new weapon or two. It allows them to put a theme to a big update. That makes way more sense then holding playlists back.

 

[Sephzilla]

The only thing I can say about maps is that the game definitely needs a few classic maps. I'm going to sound like a broken record and once again say that Headlong would fucking rock in this sandbox.

 

[mangrilla]

who are the freaks who consider Fiesta enjoyable

show yourselves

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I love it. IMO, it's been an awesome on ramp back to Halo after not touching the franchise since Halo 2. I don't have to be super worried about memorizing the location of various weapons but at the same time, it's forced me to really figure out how to best utilize whatever weapons I start with.

 

[astro]

Adding Hang Em High and Blood Gulch would make this my dream game.

 

[Deleted member 16908]

I get that they want Halo Infinite to be a 10-year game, and I actually largely respect and agree with that decision. Take the time to get the core/fundamental experience exactly perfect and then just build and build on that. As a Halo fan from the beginning this approach is exciting and interesting to me. I am on board with Halo Infinite as an evolving platform and I understand that 3+ years from now when Halo fans are still feasting we're all gonna feel good.

...But (and it's a big but)...

I hate that this approach seems to mean 343 feels completely empowered to withhold so so much of the core fabric of Halo for months or even years at a time.

I can deal with the "No Forge, no Firefight, no co-op for a year or more" stuff -- I think that gives them the time to really pour a lot of love and attention into these modes and really make them the ultimate version of themselves when they do drop. And I'm sure they have a regular cadence of new and remade maps incoming too.

But I have a bigger problem with the sheer number of MP matchmaking basics and hoppers that 343 is clearly just sitting on just to make people wait, and to make an event out of their return:

FFA
SWAT
Dedicated Slayer
Infection
Doubles
Multi-Team
Juggernaut
Snipers or Shotty/Sniper
Grifball

Forge isn't coming for a year? OK. Take your time and make it amazing. Infection, FFA, Duos etc. are missing for no reason at all? That's what gets under my skin. Especially if 343's intention is to hold these modes back and flip them on/off for events.

I am much more understanding and generous with 343 than most Infinite fans seem to be. I don't even mind the BP that much since the seasons are so long. But I just can't fathom that when this is the first F2P Halo ever made that 343/MS didn't have the confidence to launch with more Playlists. I get that there's a fear that if there's too many the player base would be spread too thin and dead hoppers would be a terrible look, but... the game is free. They have millions of players. Bring back the Halo party! There is absolutely 0 reasonable arguments to prevent players from queuing up into Slayer FFA right now.

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I feel the same way. There is no reason for there not to be dedicated Slayer, SWAT and FFA playlists available by December 8th. FFA is already available in custom games, and SWAT is literally just competitive settings but without shields.

 

[Sephzilla]

Hang Em High

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[Ultryx]

Well if the Leaked Event Times are true, we got quite a bit going in a Month's Time:

Start Date	End Date	Event
December 21st 2021	January 3rd 2022	Winter Contingency
January 4th 2022	January 10th 2022	Fracture: Tenrai
January 11th 2022	January 17th 2022	Nothing
January 18th 2022	January 31st 2022	Cyber Showdown
February 1st 2022	February 7th 2022	Fracture: Tenrai
February 8th 2022	February 21st 2022	Tactical Ops
February 22nd 2022	February 28th 2022	Fracture: Tenrai
March 1st 2022	March 18th 2022	Nothing
March 19th 2022	April 5th 2022	Fracture: Tenrai (If you have at least 23/28 Levels from the previous 4 Events, this is when you can Max out the Event) As a note, I find Reddit thinking this is 2 weeks AND starts on a Saturday very suspect, but whatever.
April 6th 2022	April 18th 2022	Nothing
April 19th 2022	April 26th 2022	Fracture: Tenrai

If all that is true, we have a stacked couple of months.

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Really looking forward to lots of events. If there's always something going on, I'll be wanting to play often.

I feel like with the increased player count and larger number of anti-vehicle weapons in the game, that vehicles need a health buff. I have never seen a vehicle last for more than a minute in this game, they are just too easy to kill.

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IME the damn Chopper and Ghosts are unstoppable forces of creation (except when I'm in them).

 

[Plywood]

I have mainly played ranked, and it is superior to quick play games in every way. A lot of the wrong behaviour I have seen being reported here has so far been absent from my ranked games. I guess grenade spam is also less viable in ranked without the radar and hit sounds.

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Ranked also highlights how littered the maps are with power weapons in Quick Play. Beyond that, the inconsistency of bloom Pistols and AR spam is gone as well. Overall it feels infinitely less chaotic and more manageable even in challenging matches.

 

[KodaRuss]

Got the Ultimate Challenge done late last night, the shader/skin looks really good just wish I could use it on all suits.

Glad I can take a break from Fiesta for a while, that mode was getting old for me.

 

[wingkongex]

who are the freaks who consider Fiesta enjoyable

show yourselves

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It's really helped with familiarizing myself with all of the new weapons.

 

[Xwing]

The maps so far are great at what they're attempting to do, but I'm really looking forward to seeing some more open vehicle focused Big Team maps similar to Coagulation, Avalanche, or Sandtrap.

 

[HiLife]

I want to see them add a CE pistol variant.

 

[RepairmanJack]

The maps so far are great at what they're attempting to do, but I'm really looking forward to seeing some more open vehicle focused Big Team maps similar to Coagulation, Avalanche, or Sandtrap.

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It's definitely in need of a little more open BTB map.

 

[Sephzilla]

The maps so far are great at what they're attempting to do, but I'm really looking forward to seeing some more open vehicle focused Big Team maps similar to Coagulation, Avalanche, or Sandtrap.

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It's definitely in need of a little more open BTB map.

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Yeah all of the current BTB maps feel oddly confined when it comes to vehicles. Everyone's driving down narrow one-way roads

 

[ThatMeanScene]

I'm hoping that 343 gets grilled a bit more about how terrible their customization system is now that we've got some substantial bandaid fixes to speed up battle pass progression. Also, wow, someone really needs to tell them to go back and juice up these events because eesh.

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At least Cyber Showdown and Tactical ops have stances and physical object/effects rewards. Winter Contingency is absolute dogshit with the 3 separate coating rewards, 3 rewards for one emblem design, and 3 rewards for a second emblem design and then a nameplate background. Absolutely horrendous. Coatings and Emblems should be just **ONE** item period.

All the cool holiday stuff like the antlers bots have been sporting are gonna expensive as shit in the shop and may only work for one fucking armor core.

Edit: To dispute something written above, Fortnite regularly hands out backblings - its one sole accessory - as a free event rewards. Winter Contingency could use at least two accessory or physical object/effects items that the other two events have.

 

[Ramirez]

Anyone try the blackberry goji flavor?

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Yea, it tastes like redbull and blueberry kool-aid. Not that great, tbh. The smell is so strong.

 

[Trey]

so the ravager is an area denial support weapon with alt fire and the three shot splash main fire. which is not terribly useful, but does have some place in the sandbox - particularly btb

343 should really have explained their weapons more, but I guess having the community figure it out on their own especially with fiesta forcing wide familiarity is a hands on approach

 

[Mukrab]

so the ravager is an area denial support weapon with alt fire and the three shot splash main fire. which is not terribly useful, but does have some place in the sandbox - particularly btb

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In other words its a weapon with a single target tickle and an aoe tickle and is utterly useless.

 

[OtterX]

who are the freaks who consider Fiesta enjoyable

show yourselves

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I love it.

 

[Deleted member 16908]

I doubt this will happen but it would be awesome if they put out a snowy map sometime this winter. Every Halo needs at least one. I'd even take a Snowbound remake.

 

[astro]

so the ravager is an area denial support weapon with alt fire and the three shot splash main fire. which is not terribly useful, but does have some place in the sandbox - particularly btb

343 should really have explained their weapons more, but I guess having the community figure it out on their own especially with fiesta forcing wide familiarity is a hands on approach

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Everyone knows what it is for, it's obviously been an area denial tool since day 1. The issue is they made it far too weak to fill that role.

I took it as my second weapon for a dozen games to see if I could get effective with it, and it hardly scored any kills. Fired it at control points full of people, secondary fire and primary, at vehicles, at the sniper perch in high power, over seeds when people were collecting, etc...

It just tickles people, sometimes scores an assist, rarely scores as a kill.

I've been killed by it one time when I walked backwards into a pool when I had a sliver of health.

 

[bloopland33]

Is there any reason to not use XP grants right away?

 

[OtterX]

In other words its a weapon with a single target tickle and an aoe tickle and is utterly useless.

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Wasn't it better in the October flights or am I misremembering?

 

[Mukrab]

Wasn't it better in the October flights or am I misremembering?

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yes it was

 

[Iso]

Is there any reason to not use XP grants right away?

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Not that I can think of, although I guess you could hold onto them to get a tiny boost at the beginning of future seasons?

 

[mudron]

Am I nuts, or is there just no Blood Gulch with tanks setup in BTB yet?

 

[Kawngi]

 

[Trey]

In other words its a weapon with a single target tickle and an aoe tickle and is utterly useless.

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it's useless if unilateral slaying is your main objective, but similar to the disruptor or plasma pistol it does have a support role. wonder if it has any ulterior effect like how the disruptor blocks shield recharge for a longer period of time.

 

[JAGMASK]

Got the willowtea challenge done with 1minute to spare. Playing fiesta is usually more fun when you're not trying hard to survive too much tho. The challenge was counter to what made fiesta a fun mode.

 

[Lifejumper]

Kill 10 enemies with the Ravager…

SWAP