It won't do anything but a petition is already at Ofer 150k signatures.
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Government is to suspend parliament (U.K.) Update: Queen approves the move.
- Thread starter Garfield
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I don't understand what Boris is trying to achieve. If he organises an election for after a no deal Brexit, then when everything goes to shit surely he'll lose terribly? Or is he hoping that if its on November 1st there won't be time for anything to go wrong?
I think the majority of Brexit voters also don't want no deal Brexit, so if he pushes that through in this way surely he's just fucking himself with everybody except the hardcore Brexit nutters?
I think the majority of Brexit voters also don't want no deal Brexit, so if he pushes that through in this way surely he's just fucking himself with everybody except the hardcore Brexit nutters?
Exactly. Unless there is agreement not to stand against each other.
Parliament can't discuss the petition of Parliament isn't in session
What a weird time we live in.
Some 18th century shit with party leaders vying for the ear of the Queen
Yeah I don't want tuition fees trebled again. £27,000 a year's a bit much, sorry.
I still can't see a BXP/Tory alliance. The personalities involved dislike and distrust each other too much, and I'm not sure Farage really wants to play second fiddle.
My heart is wanting to believe that Corbyn can get a surge like he did last time, but my head is telling me that it'd have to be an incredible campaign, and Johnson is a very different opponent to May. The mudslinging is going to be unprecedented, hope we get an actual debate this time...
The last march had over a million people and still achieved nothing
Pretty much.
Marching doesn't really achieve anything unfortunately.
I have said it before and I'll say it again, I will miss Scotland being part of the union if you become independent, but with the way things are I say go for it if you get another chance.
HKers were willing to do what it takes. I'm not so sure many UK people are. It's easy to protest on a weekend, but will people march in in the tens of thousands every day? Will they stop the government from being able to function?
I don't see it ever happening. The UK will crash out, people will take to Twitter and Facebook to vent their anger and they'll slowly resign themselves to the new reality. Countries like the UK and US don't know how to protest anymore.
Probably because it was just a march...better to use XR tactics to freeze London with a million people. that would be a whole other kettle of fish...Traditional marches are pretty ineffective yeah. We need to add some imagination to the mix.
Whilst I am sure Boris would prefer BXP to stand aside, even if they don't, their platform has been co-opted. Why would you vote for BXP if the Tories are promising you no-deal anyway?
You need the current government's permission and I don't see that coming anytime soon.
These people are willing to sacrifice Ireland, they don't care about Scotland or Wales.
Because a significant proportion of the BXP vote won't vote Tory for tribal reasons. The Tories co-opted UKIP's platform at points but UKIP still was a geographical anchor.
The calculus is this:
Winning back the support of everyone who is currently supporting the Brexit party will be enough to offset anyone they'd lose. Most people expect that no matter what there'll be *some* form of interruptions or shortages for at least a brief period after any form of Brexit, so they likely won't stop losing those supporters right away.
Is it the right strategy? Hard to say. But does it give him a better chance than a year later? or two years or whatever? Most probably.
Contacting your MP is probably far better idea at this time.
This petition is pointless considering there will be no one in Parliament to debate it...
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Well Scottish cops are first in line to get sent to NI in the event of any No Deal chaos, so yeah.
The genius plan of sending mostly unarmed police officers into potentially dangerous situations involving paramilitary groups, and whose presence will likely inflame things further.
with Jeremy Corbyn leading the opposition? LOL Labour has picked the WORST leader for dealing with Brexit because Corbyn at his hear is anti-trade
A march is a different kettle of fish to say, civil disobedience and a general strike.
Not to be snarky but there'll be more than just a "tough few months" in Ulster if no deal happens
I wouldn't have said that's a significant proportion but only time will tell. Put it this way, Boris wouldn't be smashing pell mell towards an election if he thought he was going to be out on his ear.
Inb4 EU peacekeeping troops in london guarding buckingham palace.
Polling puts it about 35% of BXP support, but a lot of that is concentrated in places where the Tories would need to win to offset the losses to the Lib Dems.
I mean, people will die, but for those don't, they'll still be alive.
Mogg must be in dream land. I would hope the queen sees him for the charlatan that he is.
no no no, several posters on Era have informed me that they'll all be jolly good mates after this is all said and done.
My MP is non other than Mark "neck grabber" Field 😢
No point writing to him.
Twitter is refusing to work for me for some reason, but the BBC live news (don't read the horribly pro-brexit BBC News) has a link to a YouGov poll that shows about a third of leavers oppose prorogation, and a similar percentage of tory voters. Surely this will have a huge impact on them? I just can't see this working out based on the polls about no deal and prorogorogorogoration.
Bojo only cares about staying in power. There's no norm he won't shit all over to ensure that happens and no position he wouldn't throw out the window either. If tomorrow, the polls somehow showed him that his best chance of staying in power was to withdraw article 50, he would.
Yep, edited that one. No, it was the by election.
There wont be one. The egos alone guarantee disaster for that option. They you have the Scottish tories who would scream bloody murder if Bojo ever thought an alliance would be a good idea. They are already facing a high chance of being wiped out in Scotland.
Farage isn't interested in playing second fiddle to Tories. He had enough of that when he had UKIP. Bxp are seeking to replace the tories wholesale, and are more then happy playing wrecking ball party to the tories to get where they want. BXP has likely also priced in failure to unsurp the cons at the next ge, they rather play the long game and get them in 5-10 years time. They have enough dark money funding.
His comments yesterday add to this. He knows full well no deal is no deal, but he will campaign on his version being the true version of it. Batshit insane, sure, but these are the times.
Need a capable pilot to crash this plane. Who better than a haunted mop given sentience?
Steve Baker here, so... likewise!
The ridiculousness of Baker is he sits in a constituency which voted to remain...
Why not both?
Im not sure why im apparently not able to be against both ideas. And for the Royals, this isnt just a one off payment we will be saving but generations of spending that would be reduced.
Maybe you need to get some perspective?