There's really fuck all. No time to bring new legislation to the fore. That's why Boris has done this. It lets him sideline parliament to stop them from stopping him from doing nothing, which is his objective.
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Government is to suspend parliament (U.K.) Update: Queen approves the move.
- Thread starter Garfield
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There's really fuck all. No time to bring new legislation to the fore. That's why Boris has done this. It lets him sideline parliament to stop them from stopping him from doing nothing, which is his objective.
No, that would be absurd. It's only ok to burn democracy to the ground when it gets you out of the EU at any cost.
From the empire to here. Growing up British sociopolitical influence was everywhere. Today's it's shrunk to a small island about to be pillaged of any influence it has by larger actors, from America to the EU to Russia.
Willfully abdicating your decorum, history, global respect, and influence in the EU and the world for this seems like pure insanity.
Willfully abdicating your decorum, history, global respect, and influence in the EU and the world for this seems like pure insanity.
I am incandescent with rage and I'm not even from the place. I hope they do.
I'm not familiar with the legal framework in the UK but what kind of outcome would a successful legal challenge achieve? And would this even happen within a 5 week period to prevent no deal from happening?
Labour movements and protests from the UK throughout history have been an inspiration to folks engaged in struggles around the world. Brits definitely have it.
Sounds bloody hopeless. Only thing left then is to shut down all major cities if folks have it in them to take to the streets for a sustained period of time.
Historically sure, but I just can't picture modern British people pulling off something worthwhile of that scale that'll actually lead to change. I'd love to be wrong though.
Uh...well this is all uncharted territory but as far as I can make out, if a judicial review happens the judges can order advice to monarch to be changed on grounds that it is unlawful, which would effectively cancel the prorogue. They could even stay it while they decided, which would be as good in effect.
Don;t take that as gospel though, I don;t suppose many people know for sure.
They have been huge riots as recently as 2011. It's hot. It could happen. Really it needs engagement from the youth. With the best will in the world you are not going to get many middle aged cunts like me smashing the place up. It needs the righteous anger of the young.
The 2011 riots were mostly young chancer cunts wanting to smash shit up and rob stuff. This won;t see the same happen becase the people that care about it aren't the type of people that will do it. I'd not be at all shocked if the majority of the twats in 2011 voted leave.
How would he be removed if Parliament was open between those dates?
The previous anti-Brexit march in London was enormous, even though the BBC tried to downplay the size of it, but I can't see young people rioting about this. Its more likely there will just be a big peaceful demonstration and maybe a strike, which is probably better anyway.
The violence in the Hong Kong protests just gets used to make the case for cracking down on them, I think it was more important that it was so large scale that it shut down a lot of things.
The violence in the Hong Kong protests just gets used to make the case for cracking down on them, I think it was more important that it was so large scale that it shut down a lot of things.
This is daft. Give it a god damn rest with the faux outrage or at least direct it to the right culprit.
So, as an American who only knows bits and pieces of UK history, how long ago did Parliament come into modern power? We talking 1800s or 1900s? I remember it being covered in highschool, but can't remember the details.
Don't worry guys, nothing ever happened somewhere else when parliament got suspended.
Nah, my country's getting fucked by these enablers. I'll say what I want about any of them and anyone who encourages or helps this charade.
Again, the Queen doesn't actually "agree" to things. It's just pomp and circumstance. An extra bit of ceremony on top of a dry procedure. It's like when Obama chose to swear in on Abe Lincoln's bible. It doesn't mean Lincoln had a say in the presidential election. She's just an organic stamp on a form.
If its taken as the signing of the Magna Carta - then we had the 800th anniversary in 2015 - was established in 1215
They are ways, but nothing can be done at all if parliament is shutdown.
I don't care about the royals one jot, but you are wasting your time lol
So im assuming that the only option now is a VONC asap?
You would like to think that even the coward Lib Dems and spineless 'Tory rebels' would realise that this is the very last chance we have to not fuck over this country for generations and actually get behind the VONC but of course history has shown us the chances of that are slim.
You would like to think that even the coward Lib Dems and spineless 'Tory rebels' would realise that this is the very last chance we have to not fuck over this country for generations and actually get behind the VONC but of course history has shown us the chances of that are slim.
It's nothing to do with them. At all. Aim your rage at the Tories.
Sigh my GF needs to go back in november to do one final exam to Hungary. hope the uk will let her back. such a shit show.
It started around Charles the 2nd which was the 17th Century and became more and more powerful with each subsequent monarch, especially during the 18th century as our first few kings a) hated England and b) were German and so spoke little English.
Yes. Shutting it down and make sure no discussions, votes or new laws get in place.
Fuck it. I'm going fully republican now.
Get rid of every inch of the upper-class establishment. Every last one of those useless cretins should go straight into the bin.
Get rid of every inch of the upper-class establishment. Every last one of those useless cretins should go straight into the bin.
No. Just because she hasn't acted on her power much doesn't mean it isn't there. She very litteraly has the power to refuse.
Shutting down congress on the eve of an important vote to stop him doing something he wants to do