I mean, there are plenty of EU citizens who will be fucked by Brexit as it currently stands, not least of all in the EU country you want a wall built along the border of. UK "just leaving already" will create a lot of Europe's "own problems".
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I mean, there are plenty of EU citizens who will be fucked by Brexit as it currently stands, not least of all in the EU country you want a wall built along the border of. UK "just leaving already" will create a lot of Europe's "own problems".
Yeah, what can I do about it. It's your mess, you fucked up, you clean up.
Europe tried to help you avoid the shit for the past 3 years, you refused it all.
I think by that time he had realised that there was no hope for the Conservative base and more importantly the ERG who would demand blood.
Everything that has happened leading up to and since the referendum has been solely to keep the Conservatives from imploding and the most fucked up part is that regardless of potentially fucking over the country for generations, they may well have just saved themselves.
Geoff she's always had it - to date it's never been worth the risk of using it - so she's never used it. It's all over the news and various forums. She legally has the power to do it, it's why the entire process exists.
Fun fact - I went to school right next to St. Austell Brewery!!
I don't disagree that the dude fucked the country while searching for political leverage. I think the referendum should've never happened.
Global recession inc I guess. Fucking boomers.
"I'm not anti-Royalist, I'm anti-Royalist who refuses to do what I want" is as far from a principled position as you can get.
Who do you think you're talking about when you say "you"?
You could shut the fuck up and not tell us your blase view about the return of terrorism to Northern Ireland and the imminent death of some of the most vulnerable people in the UK.
Not posting is always an option.
Honestly, only you and your people can solve this mess.
If this is not the time to storm out to the streets 'V for Vendetta' style I don't know when.
Is this the greatest internal crisis in the UK since the Cromwell rebellion? I guess you would have to factor in The Troubles but....
I hear ya, this charade has gone on for long enough. I'm sick of the UK government constant EU bashing. (tho that prolly won't change post-brexit)
I don't get monarchy supporters. A monarchy is the exact opposite of what a democratic and equalitarian society should be. People who are rich and powerful because they born in the right family. They have power over the elected officials just because.
It's a gross system.
It's a gross system.
But when the elected officials are this bloody stupid, who can you believe in?
Nah, there's plenty of money for the likes of SO15. Government always happy to spend on heavily armed storm troopers for "counter-terrorism" and such (aka show of state power). Regular bobbies, not so much.
Edit: it would be interesting to see what they'd do in NI. The RUC was disbanded as part of GFA
Well, at least give the people the freedom to elect stupid people to office.
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If you think as soon as the UK leaves that'll be the end of it, you're extremely naive. Also get fucked, cunt.
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Those stupid people are going to get innocent people killed. Every government needs to have safeguards against shit like this and Trumpism.
If someone can bring a vote of no confidence in Boris and win it then he'll either have no choice but to keep parliament open or call a general election. I think it'll be open for a few days before being closed again.
I thought the Queen was a figurehead with no power and that there is absolutely no harm in allowing the Monarchy to remain?
Alright, having read the source article and a few other sources... I'm still fairly wildly confused on the scope of this. Can someone explain this in simpler terms to my dumb little American brain?
Nope.
Not even kidding when I say this, I've drafted out a suicide note. Because when No Deal happens, things will get worse for anyone who doesn't match what the fascists consider normal.
Normally you have several bodies of elected government to do that. Not some random family.
yeah and a bunch of pedophile inbred British/Germans are not it
the answer to fixing some of the flaws in a democracy is not less democracy
If the queen had some balls, she'd reject this motion, then willfully receive all the backslash, then abdicate and end the monarchy when it's too late to go with this foolishness.
Now THAT'D be one for the history books.
Engage your brain will you. If there was no monarchy then this would have just happened without the pomp and ceremony of this Privy Council nonsense.
I'm not averse to that opinion or your wording for that matter, but for the sake of your account I'd edit it, mate.
Can we stop making movies about how brave and influential the queen is now? Im watching Victoria right now and im struggling to understand what exactly she does. Even back in the mid 1850s, monarchy was basically a puppet. everything from The Crown to the Kings Speech and that Helen Mirren Queen movie is all bs. these people are useless and they know it. they just want free shit and to live like kings. they have zero power and zero influence over the state of the country. they are glorified celebrities at best.
I'd compare it to some crackheads ripping all the copper pipes out of the walls and selling the scrap metal for pennies on the dollar. Yes, the crackheads made money, but they made everything worse, and didn't even extract maximum value.
When Farage is saying "things are looking pretty good," he's not gloating, he's spinning, and doing it embarrassingly transparently, because he's saying the house is looking pretty good, but in reality he's thinking about how his next crack high is gonna feel. And the house is your house.
Don't to reckless things man.
We crawled back from terrible war and where able to make things better in the long run, those people un power right now are just passing by, they aren't eternal.
Cheers! Missed a comma.
They're actively wishing a return of the troubles, people dying and people like me are gonna run out of meds and probably kill myself. So nah, I'll stick with assessment.
With a German style Republic and an actual constitution we could have checks and balances.
Clearly for some people other countries without Monarchy don't have checks and balances and haven't figured out how to not have a Monarchy 300 years ago.
This is extremely fucked up but not shocking after Boris got in power.
This doesn't just have severe ramifications for the UK if we crash out with no deal, it could tip the balance worldwide and push towards a global recession.
Luckily there are ways still to avoid this and Boris doesn't have the power he thinks he does. A tin pot dictator is far more easily removed in a democratic country.
This doesn't just have severe ramifications for the UK if we crash out with no deal, it could tip the balance worldwide and push towards a global recession.
Luckily there are ways still to avoid this and Boris doesn't have the power he thinks he does. A tin pot dictator is far more easily removed in a democratic country.
When it's shutdown
That's not me and it's shutdown
Ring ring EU, it's shutdown
Brexit week and it's shutdown
Went to the show sitting in the front row
In the blacked out suit and it's shutdown
Touch the road and it's shutdown
Boris better know when it's shutdown
Correct. She has no power. Some people are trying to claim that she does but she doesn't. I just can't with this debate anymore.