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Games should not be announced AT ALL unless they release within a calendar year
- Thread starter Exellus
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we're all gonna say some shit like oh man we gotta make sure games are ready before their announced hype is bad and it's not good for the game
and cyberpunk out here and is gonna sell more the witcher 3 ever could have imagined within a couple of weeks and that game was announced 7 years ago by the time that game comes out
and cyberpunk out here and is gonna sell more the witcher 3 ever could have imagined within a couple of weeks and that game was announced 7 years ago by the time that game comes out
Eh, hard for me to care either way. Like I'm not sure who or what a game getting announced too early is really hurting. Sure the wait can be tough, but that doesn't feel like a big deal.
There are so many good games coming out every year these days, really no reason to focus too much on things that are years away.
There are so many good games coming out every year these days, really no reason to focus too much on things that are years away.
Yeah capcom is good with a quick turn around from announcement to release. Bethesda game studios used to be until these starfield and elder scrolls 6 announcements. Square enix is the worst offender though. They announce games literally right as they enter pre production and expect people to wait some times 5 plus years for them. Nintendo is hit or miss. Usually they announce things the year they come out. A one year hype cycle for smash was pretty unheard of especially after 4 and brawl. But there are outliers of course in mainline zelda titles and metroid prime 4
Nope, announce them as early as possible. I'm sick of the secrecy the industry operates in. The movie industry does quite well for itself doing the complete opposite of what's described in the OP.
Why is it a bad thing if a game gets announced early?
Blame the community for getting too overhyped or not setting realistic expectations on when it will release,not the early announcement that a dev is working on a project.
Blame the community for getting too overhyped or not setting realistic expectations on when it will release,not the early announcement that a dev is working on a project.
Obviously it's harder to hide stuff regarding movie production given how big they can be. But even then, Marvel Studios is now playing things closer to the chest in terms of how much detail we get for movies coming in the pipeline from Phase 4 onwards.
It's not like you're actively following every single game every single day, stalking their twitters, sitting on the edge of your chair, hungry for any bit of info. You wishlist it and forget about it until it's like a week before release. What does it matter if it's announced super early? Kickstarter games are announced even before development starts and nobody bats an eye lol.
I'm also open to the idea of just letting people know everything all the time, but Gamers(tm) aren't mature enough to handle that I'm sure.
I don't think there's anything wrong with being transparent about what you're working on, even if it's years from completion. But I'd rather they not peddle bullshit trailers and previews that aren't going to look or play like the final product.
This, basically. At least give us regular updates if it's early. Something to keep us dreaming.
Pictured: SquareEnix if they weren't allowed to announce games 7 years too early
Serious answer - Yeah, announcing games too early is annoying and I personally think it can negatively impact a games marketing if you announce too early.
Serious answer - Yeah, announcing games too early is annoying and I personally think it can negatively impact a games marketing if you announce too early.
Nah, the more open devs can be the better. Folks get too addicted to hype cycles and don't know how to manage expectations, that's not the developer's fault.
All my favorite games are games I didn't know existed until the day I got em so as far as I'm concerned they should just go the extra mile and announce that shit a month in advance.
I understand the sentiment but some games get a lot of help from being announced early. However, I will admit that some games could help themselves, with at least me personally, if they just weren't announced until 12 months before release (Final Fantasy VII Remake, Metroid Prime 4, Death Stranding).
Why so then people can bitch about no announcements? What is Nintendo, Sony, ms is doing? This gen is DOOMED! Bla bla blah
Agreed 100%!
The weirdest thing is when people get hyped by a game announcement at a console unveil and then use that as a reason to buy and hype the console... at launch!
Avatar 2 has been talked about for 10 years. It comes out in 2021. Maybe. What's the point in talking about a movie that early??
The weirdest thing is when people get hyped by a game announcement at a console unveil and then use that as a reason to buy and hype the console... at launch!
Yes!
Avatar 2 has been talked about for 10 years. It comes out in 2021. Maybe. What's the point in talking about a movie that early??
A game can get announced in it's earliest phase and I'd be happy with it. If it didn't come out for 10 years I'd be cool with that too. There are so many videogames being released monthly I never feel like I'm waiting on anything. I don't relate to the ops mentality at all.
Same. I don't care if you announce it with a CG trailer or whatever, just let me know it exists.
I also enjoy stuff like that but I'd rather them announce and show off the game long after that phase of development. They can always show recordings/screenshots of the early stuff later.
Yeah they have been great recently. I find if a game is announced to early I lose all excitement and interest for it as time goes on until the launch feels pretty uneventful. One year of screens, news and trailers before release still has me buzzing.
I don't really care. If an interesting game is announced early in dev (say, Death Stranding), I'll get to spend a lot of time hyping myself up for the game, and I enjoy the process, and I know it exists which is a plus.
If a game is announced late in development (say, Sekiro), I'm even more excited from the get go because it's close.
In short I find both valid and fun
If a game is announced late in development (say, Sekiro), I'm even more excited from the get go because it's close.
In short I find both valid and fun
Came here to post this, but you already nailed it, Pagusas - so I'll just quote your post to highlight it. The world of game development is a lot bigger than just the players on forums.
yeah disagree. we need to get to a point where we know when projects have been green lit. I think you still don't show footage of the game until it's within a year of release and you don't open pre-orders until there is a release date. right now there's just way too much secrecy.
It would be nice but I think there are a lot of other factors that make it hard. Movies, tv series, even books sometimes get announcements way before the final product is released. Keeping everyone quite on a undercover project is hard. I'm sure there are tons of other benefits like investors that I don't fully understand.
If it's a sequel to an established series, I want it announced ASAP. I hate it when something is constantly teased or hinted at or leaked and rumored for so long, and literally gets announced last minute.
There's no point in holding an announcement. Just get it out of the way and officially tell us it's coming.
I was mad at E3 when Fable 4 wasn't announced. I don't care if I am waiting for it for awhile. We all know it's coming. Just get the announcement out of the way. I love how Bethesda approached Elder Scrolls 6. We all knew it was coming. They just got it out of the way.
There's no point in holding an announcement. Just get it out of the way and officially tell us it's coming.
I was mad at E3 when Fable 4 wasn't announced. I don't care if I am waiting for it for awhile. We all know it's coming. Just get the announcement out of the way. I love how Bethesda approached Elder Scrolls 6. We all knew it was coming. They just got it out of the way.
A corporate apologist for the one corporation that is the worst offender of this. FF Versus XIII getting announced in 2006, eventually coming out in 2016, after it failed to meet its first release date of September 2016. It was still missing story bits.
DQXI announced for the NX in 2015 and isn't coming out until next month (and came out on PS4 and PC first to boot, three years later).
This is the same corporation that has now changed their stance on revealing games early as referenced in the tweet below, acknowledging it isn't the best practice. The longer a game's existence is out there in the wild before any tangible gameplay is accessible, the more scrutiny it can get. There's too much time to pick it apart and it can become a negative.
Nope. Announce them when you want. We want to see what's coming out in the future. These big games aren't these GAAS games that are broken on day one.
What you should say is make sure you release a game complete on day one. Not worry about when a game is being announced. Games have always and should always be announce years out, if they want too.
What you should say is make sure you release a game complete on day one. Not worry about when a game is being announced. Games have always and should always be announce years out, if they want too.
Scenario a) announce every project for the gen, no secrecy.
Scenario b) secrecy and keeping everyone on the edge of their seat.
Scenario A happens "I miss the old the days of speculation"
Scenario b this thread just whining and entitled folks. Be patient or go outside and do other stuff.
There's no such thing as complete happiness.
Scenario b) secrecy and keeping everyone on the edge of their seat.
Scenario A happens "I miss the old the days of speculation"
Scenario b this thread just whining and entitled folks. Be patient or go outside and do other stuff.
There's no such thing as complete happiness.
I think there is a fair balance that can be found.
Companies like Square Enix definitely need to stop over-promising and announcing games years and years in advance because it always leads to a lot of negative press leading up to release. It did end up working in SE's favor for XV and KH3 because those games ended up being their bestselling titles due to the insane hype surrounding those projects, but I think if they repeat this over and over, they will eventually lose fans.
On the same end, I don't think games NEED to be announced a year before release. You risk leaving shareholders and consumers in a precarious situation where they don't announce anything for years because of how their pipeline is set up, so you risk these people losing confidence in your ability to deliver new products.
In the end, though, these are major corporations who don't actually care about anything except their bottom line. They will do what they want.
Companies like Square Enix definitely need to stop over-promising and announcing games years and years in advance because it always leads to a lot of negative press leading up to release. It did end up working in SE's favor for XV and KH3 because those games ended up being their bestselling titles due to the insane hype surrounding those projects, but I think if they repeat this over and over, they will eventually lose fans.
On the same end, I don't think games NEED to be announced a year before release. You risk leaving shareholders and consumers in a precarious situation where they don't announce anything for years because of how their pipeline is set up, so you risk these people losing confidence in your ability to deliver new products.
In the end, though, these are major corporations who don't actually care about anything except their bottom line. They will do what they want.
12-18 months should be the standard and I most of the industry seems to adhere to that as far multiplatform publishers go. Capcom especially comes to mind at being really good at this as of late.
Historically, the platform holders have been some of the worst offenders in this regard but that's largely improved in the case of for Nintendo and, as of the last couple years, Microsoft. They both more or less adhere to this timeframe with the odd exception here and there.
The biggest offenders this gen are easily Sony and Square, but it seems to have done nothing but work out swimmingly for them so I don't expect that to change any time soon.
Historically, the platform holders have been some of the worst offenders in this regard but that's largely improved in the case of for Nintendo and, as of the last couple years, Microsoft. They both more or less adhere to this timeframe with the odd exception here and there.
The biggest offenders this gen are easily Sony and Square, but it seems to have done nothing but work out swimmingly for them so I don't expect that to change any time soon.
I've had Final Fantasy 7 Remake preordered on Amazon long enough that it's still 20% off because I'm a Prime member... Granted, I don't think they're going to honour this. Still has the placeholder box art...
EDIT: I actually came to say that I like Nintendo's usual MO of announcing games 3 months prior to release.
EDIT: I actually came to say that I like Nintendo's usual MO of announcing games 3 months prior to release.
While I don't mind some hype, it is refreshing when a company announces a game and then it has a short release window. When Capcom announced RE7 at Sony's E3 and it had an 8 month release window, I was even happier.
I can agree with this
I can agree with this
Absolutely this. The anger and frustration towards game announcements compared to every other entertainment medium just seems extremely archaic. You dont have to be hyped from the moment of annoucement to the moment of release; it's perfectly okay to forget a game exists, to not get constant updates, to not be constantly fiending for a release.