It is, it just needs per-game integration so it doesn't upscale the UI as well. If you mean at a system-wide level, it'll never happen.
It is, the devs just have to put on their games which probably isn't the best option given almost no one does AFAIK.
And is likely a solid comparison point for a non-AI FSR 2.0 against DLSS 2.x.
DLSS 1.9 was TAAU without AI. The improvements which AI based DLSS 2.x made since then were obvious.
A free open source TAAU implementation will be much better than FSR 1.0 though, that's for sure.
2nd time is a charm I guess, from the times I have used the old FSR it hasn't been great and I've always gone back to DLSS.
I hope they surprise me with the new implimentation.
I hope they surprise me with the new implimentation.
Only for stuff that implements it. Which if it needs motion vectors, will probably only be ones that would do dlss too. Or ones that were going to do dlss, before being sponsored by amd, and this are prevented from using it
DLSS 1.9 was not temporal, also it had AI but was adapted to run on CUDA cores. Temporal data wasn't used until DLSS 2.0.
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It is, any game that wants to use on Consoles can... it's just that there are better alternatives out there like Checkerboard or TAAU.
No.
DLSS 1.9 as shown in control was just TAAU. No AI at all. It had Temporal disocclusion aretfacts, temporal blur issues, etc.
It was TAAU without any real time AI - they've used some results of NNs being developed for 2.x to adjust the algorithmic parameters in 1.9 but it was still very much "static" shader code capable of running on any GPU.
Also temporal data was always used in DLSS, 1.0 including. The approach on how that data is being used has changed between 1.0 and 1.9/2x though. 1.0 upscaling was very much spatial, with temporal data used for AA only IIRC.
Yeah, I remember this - the whole point was that it was an attempt at doing DLSS without tensor cores. And it succeeded... at proving that DLSS was much better with tensor cores.
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I wonder if DF is working on a TSR vs DLSS comparison, would love to see how they compare from the eyes of people who can spot even the slightest differences.
Someone already made a comparison using the Valley of the Ancients demo (using Nvidia's DLSS Unreal Plugin), but still... I'd love that DF goodness :-)
Edit: also, this was before Epic introduced the r.Nanite.ViewMeshLODBias.Enable/r.Nanite.ViewMeshLODBias.Offset/r.Nanite.ViewMeshLODBias.Min settings to handle negative bias for rasterized Nanite meshes while using TSR.
Several games do use. I know Vangaurd at least use FidelityFX but TAA cause problems with ghosting effects.
I would love to see a system wide use like in Linux
Oh my apologies, I had misread what the difference in versions were.
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So yeah.. it won't be at a driver level because it's basically impossible with temporal data.
And devs who will support fsr2.0 will support dlss anyway since both need motion vector Im assuming
I guess its a good open source tool for taau for devs who are not using ue4/5?
And devs who will support fsr2.0 will support dlss anyway since both need motion vector Im assuming
I guess its a good open source tool for taau for devs who are not using ue4/5?
It may be that supporting DLSS alongside this would be pointless as it will provide a "good enough" quality on the same h/w.
I have my doubts though. Chances are that DLSS will remain much better in IQ even compared to FSR 2.0. And in this case, yeah, DLSS will basically need the same data to work so implementing it alongside FSR 2.0 should be a no brainer. Unless AMD will be blocking this again.
Its just an up sampler with temporal data. There's no reason this shouldn't support everything under the sun
Really hope the visual output is good, that Deathloop example is awesome. I hope "Performance" mode is good enough from regular TV sitting distance.
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DP4A instructions are what Intel's XeSS will use on non-Intel GPUs... FSR 2.0 is looking more exiting.
We've actually seen xess though, so surely it's more exciting than just rumors. And tbh, Intel has probably earned more benefit of the doubt than amd, after all the hype around fsr 1
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Agreed, but most of that hype was user-generated though. I'm just curious to see if FSR 2.0 has an ML side to it... hence the performance cost compared to FSR 1.0 according to the leaks which was a pure compute shader.
I think they mean that Unreal Engine Raytracing video
EDIT: no they mean this
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For the steam deck specifically, if one can install Proton GE (at least I don't think it works on Valve's Proton) it's possible to force FSR to be enabled in any title, using a simple environment variable. Although it will then of course upscale the UI etc as well.
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Really hope we are able to get more 4K60 RT modes on consoles.Deathloop
I'd even be happy with 1440p60 RT modes across the board depending on how well FSR 2.0 is compared to 1.0. But it seems like my 5700 XT can live on a bit longer if this is a good bump up as finding a new GPU is still a pain.
I doubt itll be as good as say, Insomniac's custom solution but the benefit is it being free to use by anyone on basically any hardware, so games that dont use it (cough Dying Light 2) could potentially implement it relatively easily.
Can you give some examples, this is a legit question, i play on PC, can you point me the games that have FSR availble but also have another upscalling option(outside of DLSS) which i can use that is better than FSR on Ultra Quality considering the performance gains?
Or are people talking about console space only with in-house solutions tied to an specific engine or game?
Yeah, compared to consoles. Most of the engine specific upscalers, even just checkboarding on many playstation titles, are much less blurry than FSR. Much less something like UE's TSR. FSR is just the lancoz upscaler that has been available for years on a driver level, combined with the FidelityFX sharpening filter, which you can basically do with a reshade filter. THe only real improvement it brought is that games that actually specifically impliment it can render the UI natively.
It's true what you say, that there are few games where we can make apples to apples comparisons, and that many of the games I was thinking of use in-house tech (Ubisoft games come to mind as an example that's available on PC). Pretty sure UE5 has good upsampling as well.
If FSR becomes very easy to implement there could definitely be a benefit from that point of view.
That's a marketing YouTube video though. Pretty far from what I'd call "we've seen it in action", especially when talking about how it runs on non-Intel h/w.
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Do people generally like Ubisoft's up-sampling technique? I was at a friend's place recently and he was playing Valhalla at 4K output with ~70% scaling and I found it really bad.
I haven't fiddled with the resolution scaling setting, but one thing that I think most people don't know about Valhalla specifically is that the AA settings actually controls the render resolution as well. Any AA setting below max is actually rendering sub-natively, and to my eyes on a 4K TV it's nearly perfect.
