So is this sony or epics problem? Apparently sony supportsays epic is locking out the content
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Fortnite crossplay (Nintendo Switch, Xbox One, PC, Mac, Mobile) confirmed, Sony blocking PS4
- Thread starter ManaByte
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Not really, its cool and all being able to play it anywhere(if you have wifi) but it runs much much better on the PS4.
Epic's wording is clear.
They are basically say "go blame sony"
Shoot...I meant Xbox not Switch.
Testing for you!
You get an error. My Switch loaded the game MUCH faster than Xbox, but when I signed on Xbox, it said "Login Expired or Logged In Elsewhere".
Oh, are they? Because that would be funny, since Epic doesnt "lock" content for any other platform linking to any other platform except PS4. So its all a conspiracy from epic and other companies to make sony look bad am i right?
Nooooo! Now you'll never be able to link an epic account to your Nintendo account. You fried that Nintendo account. You should've logged in first!
Can't answer for the poster in terms of 'most games' but Ubisoft have said that they have a higher attach rate/spend per user on Xbox than PS4. https://www.gamepur.com/news/22092-xbox-one-has-better-software-attach-rate-rather-ps4-ubisoft.html
They're not hypothetical though. I don't think I'm understanding what you're trying to say.
You're not the only one. It's been answered a bunch of times. On every platform, cross play with PC players is opt-in meaning you have to specifically match up with PC players yourself. It's never going to drop you into a game with PC players, that decision is on you (if you want to play with PC friends for example).
Also, again, Fortnite on PS4 natively supports keyboard and mouse, going as far as to change all of the in-game prompts and button icons to PC/KB&M prompts when you plug in a USB keyboard or mouse. It fully supports it so if KB&M players are a problem you better avoid the PS4 version too.
You only go against PC players if you join up with a friend who is playing on PC.
Your wording was off, but I'm pretty sure you were implying that Microsoft/Nintendo wouldn't have blocked crossplay if they were in Sony's position.
It's possible other publishers have higher attach rates for the One as well and varies from company to company.
Article was from 2016 so the numbers have changed now since Sony is almost at 80 mill . That's a lot of free to play fortnite gamers.
You know what he was trying to say, you're just trying to downplay/deflect this topic like you've done multiple times before ;)
Sony needs to get their shit together, this is unacceptable. Spent a couple frustrated hours trying to get my son's account to work on Switch, but nope, Sony being draconian assholes. With Fortnite being the juggernaut that it is, if this won't light the fire under their ass to change then nothing will. Fine, keep blocking cross-play, whatever, but locking third party accounts to PS4 is scummy.
Yes. The only company currently making the completely stupid, tone deaf, anti-consumer, shameful, spiteful, unjustifiable and greedy decision of blocking progress and purchases from being transferred is Sony. You can move your purchases between Windows, Mac, iPhone, Switch and Xbox One in any direction without any kind of restrictions. Just log in and play.
You're totally right of course, I was just offering up some proof to back up that posters claim. You know that attach rate isn't affected by user numbers though right? It's how much money people are paying per user on average. Having 80 million users or having 8 million users, the average spend per user is till very comparable. If there are double the amount of PS4s than Xboxes out there that number won't be double the average spend per user on Xbox.
Technically it is both, but Sony is the root cause. However, Epic not providing any warning to alert players that if they move an account to Sony it is locked there and inaccessible on other platforms they had previously used is a huge oversight on their part.
Sony got this gen but I cant see them going into next gen like this.
MS is going to rub this in sooo much when new consoles are coming. This will be the used games thing next go around.
MS is going to rub this in sooo much when new consoles are coming. This will be the used games thing next go around.
Are we expecting every company to do this now, going forward? Like, are we expecting Black Ops 4 progress/purchases to carry over from Xbox and PS4? Or is this only in cases where cross-play is enabled?
Not meaning this to sound like a defense, just, genuinely curious what the market expects after this move from Epic.
Not meaning this to sound like a defense, just, genuinely curious what the market expects after this move from Epic.
No, I'm saying that currently Microsoft and Nintendo allow it and Sony doesn't. I'm not interested in what Microsoft or Nintendo would do if they were the market leader, because that's not the case and it won't be for the rest of this generation.
For companies if content is going to be purchased, they don't mind making progression carry over
Unlike games (which you will need to double dip to use the feature anyway), MTX content doesn't really have many double dippers, so without skins carrying over barely anyone is going to buy the same skins on two different systems. Why not facilitate it if it means people will buy more skins? I can see a trend on this sort of thing alright.
Somebody replied to me above and I think I might be wrong. I could've sworn yesterday I read something in game about not being able to link your Nintendo account if you forego it the first time, but I guess I was wrong. Good news for you though!
This game is pretty fun, who knew?
My son say to me "just about the rest of the free world dad"
My son say to me "just about the rest of the free world dad"
I'll link again for exposure:
Actually, reading it...it does seem like you can't link it now. :/
You're way over emphasizing how significant these people are though. They're not just a minority but an extreme minority. Then you stack on that the number of multi console owners affected by this are a subset of that minority. Then you stack on that the number of people who are outraged over this are a subset of that and you have a small blip in the scope of the entire user base that this is affected by it. Even if those people influence others, it's still a small scope.
Also sure they might spend more but their spending habits are distributed across multiple platforms anyway so it's not like they're necessarily spending all that on Sony anyway. I say this as a multi platform console owner who not only spends probably more annually than the average person here on this forum on games, but also has multiple units of the same platform. I recognize I'm in the extreme minority and that the people who are shouting about this are the very definition of the vocal minority.
Sony knows this. Sony knows they can get away with this because of how small in numbers these people are. Sony also knows that this will blow over shortly and people will move on because they already did it once before with Minecraft and once before with Rocket League. I want cross platform play just as much as anyone else, but the harsh reality is there's no real incentive for Sony to offer and the examples people give are the same fallacy that people throw out when they claim money is being left on the table because a company won't sell them something for the price that they want it at.
I want cross play too but I recognize the harsh reality of why we are not going to get it anytime soon and Fortnite isn't going to be the game that suddenly changes this. I am by no means saying people shouldn't complain and make their voices be heard, but everyone has to not stop after a few days or a few weeks. The only way this is ever going to be effective is if it grows and doesn't die after everyone loses interest and moves on. I'm only saying people should realize what the harsh realistic outcome is going to be and to not get their hopes up.
Actually, reading more:
...it sounds like you maybe can? I don't know. Wording is strange
While I agree Sony budging on cross-play is unlikely. This specific example isn't even about cross-play in the end, which is why I don't think it's remotely comparable to Rocket League or Minecraft. We're all pissed off because at some point we linked our PSN account which in turn locked us from ever moving somewhere else without us being aware of that. I don't care about cross-play. In fact I'm not that bothered about keeping progression on PS4, I'd happily unlink if that actually did something. I just want to be able to get the fuck out of their isolated system and be able to use my account elsewhere. Frankly it's insane that we can't do that, Sony shouldn't be allowed to lock our PC purchases into their ioslated system.
I have a question about this, because I too logged in with my Nintendo account thinking a would play one or two games and that's all. What are the advantages of having it linked to an Epic account? Just that you can carry it over to other platforms or is there something else?
This is where I'm at. I'd gladly wipe my progress and purchases if I could remove the PSN link (well, maybe not gladly). I would never have linked in the first place if I had known this would happen.