Non-pro leagues all over are getting cancelled. Which makes sense tbh.
The longer this takes the likelier it feels like every single football calendar will be a mess for years to come unless they cancel this season.
Maybe, hopefully we'll find a solution to all of this sooner rather than later.I don't think this will be over before end of year, they would try to relax distancing measures and then have to tighten them again like in China. Next season is going to be screwed anyway and probably won't start.
Non-pro leagues all over are getting cancelled. Which makes sense tbh.
The longer this takes the likelier it feels like every single football calendar will be a mess for years to come unless they cancel this season.
If the season ends up being canceled there won't be any title for anyone, it'd be entirely scrapped.If they cancel the EPL season and all the clubs don't unanimously vote to give the title to Liverpool, that will be a crime.
I've read that 14 of the 20 clubs would need to vote on the season being cancelled, so they could surely all vote on awarding the title (or not) too.If the season ends up being canceled there won't be any title for anyone, it'd be entirely scrapped.
Do you organize a vote on promotion, relegation, european slots, etc. too ?I've read that 14 of the 20 clubs would need to vote on the season being cancelled, so they could surely all vote on awarding the title (or not) too.
Good question. Title granted or not has no effect on any other club though, unlike promotion/relegation and Euro slots. If there is a CL next season maybe they do need to take a snapshot of the current positions, flawed though it is, is there any better way? And if you do that, no reason not to apply the same principle to the top spot.Do you organize a vote on promotion, relegation, european slots, etc. too ?
If the season's canceled then that's that, everyone would be back to square one.
Caught a replay from a crazy Chelsea vs United from 2011 or 2012 (the year Chelsea won the CL). In which they were winning 3-0 at the 55th minute, Chicharito comes on and somehow ties the bloody game for United lol
Cancelling the season is messy. They should play out the remaining games when they can they decide how to organise the following season from there. Harry Kane has now joined Brady is saying it should be cancelled but they aren't going to be playing again by August anyway so just finish the season off and work it out from there.
You are bringing all the believers down. Just cut it out please, its unnecessary therearedozensofus.gifSo the expectation is that the players, the staff, the managers, the press, the stewards, etc. don't get in touch with anybody from the outside, that all of them start this tournament 100% sure to be negative, and that everything was immaculately sanitized to a point where it's physically impossible for any person involved to get infected.
Sounds like a reasonable plan.
They would lose a lot more in TV money if they did that...They should cancel next season before they think about cancelling this season.
Agreed, I believe that eventually the higher ups will realise this too.I think the only logical move is to cancel the league and keep the current positions for the European ticket distribution. No trophies awarded though.
To throw another iron on the fire, a lot of players contracts expire around June...
Liverpool fans want to endanger peoples lives just so they can win the Premier League for the first time ever, shameful.
the justification for not handing Liverpool a title would be... the season was cancelled.If the season is cancelled, there is zero justification for not giving Liverpool the title.
If the season is cancelled, there is zero justification for not giving Liverpool the title.
Non-pro leagues all over are getting cancelled. Which makes sense tbh.
The longer this takes the likelier it feels like every single football calendar will be a mess for years to come unless they cancel this season.
They've been easily the best team, are country miles clear, and only needed six points over the rest of the season to be mathematically certain. There's zero doubt that they'd have won it were they allowed to continue the season.
Statistically speaking if you extrapolate Liverpool's most recent form (2-3 loss against Atletico, 0/3) to the rest of the season then they will pick up 0 points.They've been easily the best team, are country miles clear, and only needed six points over the rest of the season to be mathematically certain. There's zero doubt that they'd have won it were they allowed to continue the season.
Even if that happened, there's a reasonable chance they'd still win the bloody thing anyway.Statistically speaking if you extrapolate Liverpool's most recent form (2-3 loss against Atletico, 0/3) to the rest of the season then they will pick up 0 points.
You can only give Liverpool the title if you decide everything else (Euro spots, relegation and promotion all the way down)If the season is cancelled, there is zero justification for not giving Liverpool the title.
If it is necessary to cancel a season to 'reset' the football calendar back to normal, it makes way more sense to cancel/modify one that hasn't happened yet, than one which is part finished. At least then the rules/circumstances can be agreed beforehand by everyone involved.
The advantage with looking at the future schedule is that it is flexible and can adapt - like it was with moving the 2022 WC to winter instead of summer. The
so question is would they rather cancel this season, and still face problems with next season, or cancel/truncate next season, and finish this one. Otherwise they're risking problems with both, and since it's all about the money, they'll lose even more.They were saying 6 months to return to normal on the news yesterday, if that's the case next season would be in jeopardy too.
In theory.
The main issue clubs and Leagues are facing with regards to outright cancelling the current season is all the money they'll lose and how that'll mess them up.
Problem being, even if for example we finished what's left in the calendar year of the next season (anywhere from September to May) you run into the issues of:
A) You'll miss out the revenue/income of a another normal League year
B) You'll still have clubs stopped (with bills to pay) for months and months until the following season (in this case, 2021/2022) can start.
C) Players will demand more playtime before 2021's Summer since now we'll have the Euros, Copa America, Olympics all happening at that time. Meaning the prospect of playing 10-15 games in the time period where you'd play 38 won't necessarily be readily accepted in the top clubs (which usually have the most international players).
I dunno, it's a complex problem. Any of the solutions will have direct impacts on the next steps, there isn't any clear path here IMO.
Plus at this point in time we don't even know when players can start training (much less playing) in safe conditions. Could very well be post-Summer if things really go wrong.
Or...More money will be lost by screwing with next season. They'll want to limit thyr amount of money that they can lose so cancelling this season will ensure that. The start of next season may get a little delayed but cancelling int friendlies/winter breaks etc will probably mean next season will be fine.
The remaining issues will be around promotions, cup placements etc. Do you start next season with the same teams being qualified for certain european competitions as the start of this season? Cancelling seems the only solution to me, and fans of clubs that may lose out (Liverpool etc) just need to accept it, there's a lot more important things than sport and there's not been a situation like this since wartime.
If you attempt to finish this season off in September onwards you screw with next season, the Euros again and even the 2022 world cup. UEFA and FIFA won't want that.
I really don't know about that. Just as an example, the German Bundesliga really wanted to play one more matchday because 1/4 of their yearly TV income would've been due after that one. If you cancel now, half of it might not be paid out ever and the next income from TV money might only occur in late autumn or even winter. Maybe some TV stations would even try to sue for money paid for things that are now null and void.More money will be lost by screwing with next season. They'll want to limit thyr amount of money that they can lose so cancelling this season will ensure that. The start of next season may get a little delayed but cancelling int friendlies/winter breaks etc will probably mean next season will be fine.
Again, any path that the Leagues pick will have some sort of consequence, it's really just trying to pick the one that fits best. But it's too early to predict how it'll play out in the end. The first clue will be when sports can be resumed, that will define a lot of what can or can't be done afterwards.None of these are necessarily certain - it all depends on when it is safe to have sports back up again. But a situation where the current league is played out and some truncated/compromise solution about what to do next season seems the way that results in the least revenue for clubs lost to me.
I just don't get why people say next season will be "ruined" if it doesn't go ahead on time, and are then advocating things like "promote Leeds and West Brom, then relegate 5 teams the season after" as if that isn't a huge change to the football season too. Next seasons football calendar is a direct consequence of the current season's one and should only really start after this one is finished, even if that means doing it later, or cutting down on the number of less important games that a team does (cup competitions, international friendlies). Those are the kind of things that can be cancelled with minimum consequence for the future
Good point, it'll come down to time, they'd want a full season's money over another 9 games worth but if its 6 months before we return to normal who knows!?so question is would they rather cancel this season, and still face problems with next season, or cancel/truncate next season, and finish this one. Otherwise they're risking problems with both, and since it's all about the money, they'll lose even more.
Again, any path that the Leagues pick will have some sort of consequence, it's really just trying to pick the one that fits best. But it's too early to predict how it'll play out in the end. The first clue will be when sports can be resumed, that will define a lot of what can or can't be done afterwards.
Also I, in particular, never said anything about West Brom or Leeds :P