First set photos of Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker
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I am fascinated by this.
It's only being made as Marty wants it made and made by Todd Phillips
Like revealing the how and when of a scary magic trick. Can't see anything to be gained aside from cash.
But I can't hear him mumble"First photo of Venom revealed"
We'll ain't that the truth but not saying much. I don't see a damaged tattoo on his forehead so Phoenix is winning by default.
Eeeeeeeeh. This entire movie still feels like a big mistake and a complete misinterpretation on what makes the Joker work.
I understand it and disagree with it.
And I hate Nicholson's Joker and don't see any semblance of an everyman in him at all.
The Joker story that I'm thinking of is of a good, down-on-his-luck man who wants to do the right thing, but is fighting a losing battle for his sanity. It's less about the development of a man into who the Joker is, so much as the destruction of who this man was as he loses himself to a psychosis in the form of the Joker. You sympathise for the man who died in losing himself to the Joker, rather than the persona of the Joker itself.
And I'm saying Rob Zombie thought it would be interesting to see Michael Myers succumb to his inner demons and become the boogeyman.
I just don't see the point in an Oscar-baity superhero film. What's the point of that?
So then it's a question of how well characterised the character is. Zombie's Myers wasn't at all.
Joaquin Phoenix is a great actor so I have complete trust in him pulling this off. I'm not familiar with the director so neutral on him, my main reservation is the script. If its based on Moore's Killing Joke then I'll be cautiously optimistic. Still more elseworlds shit would be cool.
I forgot Romero there for a second haha.
Then he's third out of 4, which isn't that much better tbh.
Nicholson and Ledger are leagues ahead imo.
Nicholson is basically the poor man's Romero. He didn't even grow a mustache.
I never understand the "I don't think a movie is necessary" crowd.
No movie is. And I don't see how this will demystify The Joker. He's had plenty of origin stories. From being a petty gangster to being a comedian. I hope at the end of this movie it's him being interviewed and the story he gave was complete bullshit.
Also this is an elseworlds movie. It's a one off. It's nice they are trying this with Joker, but going forward I'd like to see them do this with lesser known characters.
No movie is. And I don't see how this will demystify The Joker. He's had plenty of origin stories. From being a petty gangster to being a comedian. I hope at the end of this movie it's him being interviewed and the story he gave was complete bullshit.
Also this is an elseworlds movie. It's a one off. It's nice they are trying this with Joker, but going forward I'd like to see them do this with lesser known characters.
I like the actors attached to this, I have zero attachment to DC films at this point.
I have no idea if Phoenix will be a good Joker or not, but after Ledger, I decided to keep my mouth shut until I see the actual performance.
Personally, I don't mind them trying to potentially make Joker sympathetic. It all comes down to how well that stuff is written.
Like I said, no expectations for this, but I'm totally open to the idea.
I have no idea if Phoenix will be a good Joker or not, but after Ledger, I decided to keep my mouth shut until I see the actual performance.
Personally, I don't mind them trying to potentially make Joker sympathetic. It all comes down to how well that stuff is written.
Like I said, no expectations for this, but I'm totally open to the idea.
There's nothing to demystify. Joker's origin has always been known, it wasn't until Nolan that it became mysterious.
I'm not a comic fan and I don't watch comic book movies in general but I'll probably see this if the reviews are good. They've got me interested with Joaqin.
I think they'll get other people who stay away from the comic book/hero stuff as well. I don't care what they do with the character in terms of it fitting the comics, just hope it's an interesting film about a sadistic weirdo.
I think they'll get other people who stay away from the comic book/hero stuff as well. I don't care what they do with the character in terms of it fitting the comics, just hope it's an interesting film about a sadistic weirdo.
It's not exactly The Killing Joke. There was a rumor, for instance, that an older Thomas Wayne appears in it as a corrupt / shady white collar businessman. Most likely, this will pull elements from various Joker origins, while being it's own Elseworlds story.
I think part of the problem is that, like Myers, it's really difficult to imagine a scenario where an average person becomes a monster.
