Nothing, really. Just don't like the guy. As far as I know he's not a disgusting human being like Leto.
First set photos of Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker
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Nothing, really. Just don't like the guy. As far as I know he's not a disgusting human being like Leto.
Please god no
Bruce Timm already made sure that story's dead for a long long time.
I can completely see this story as being ambiguous as well. The movie might start with Joker being interviewed about his past and this is just one of the many alternate flashbacks.
It's meant to be his origin story so for all we know he won't actually become the Joker until the last few minutes in the movie during the ACME Labs job at the end where Batman pushes him into the chemical container (or whatever angle they go for).
What film is necessary?
Not every film needs to be worked into an overarching cinematic universe.
Not every film needs to be worked into an overarching cinematic universe.
If they just do How Joker ends up in the Red Hood Gang and you end with him going into the Vat after his brief fight with Batman.
Considering the state of the DCEU, a Joker origin movie when they have so much else to focus on just tells me they still don't get the comics.
Not one for superhero movies at all but this, this has piqued my interest. Still not gonna hold any expectations but very curious to see the end result
It's more that we also don't need every character in the comic book universe to have a standalone film. The Joker isn't an interesting character on his own, he's interesting in context with the characters he bounces off of.
They already mentioned this is outside DCEU. It's an Elseworlds things they're doing. In DCEU, they already have Shazam, Aquaman and Wonder Woman 2 coming.
1) explaining the joker is a good way to kill the character unless done really masterfully ....
2) this will probably make no sense with the rest of the DCEU
3) will batman be the villain of this movie ?
edit: honorable mention) I can't take one more story based on killing joke
Does everything need to be part of a timeline or a specific universe?
Just let this be its own thing.
I'm not opposed to an Elseworlds story, I guess I just rather they get their connected universe on track.
That was the previous Joker. Shipped broken. They RMA'd that one and got a complimentary upgrade to the new Phoenix model.
Why does DC keep switching actors/actresses and rebooting franchises? I feel like this is a huge reason why they are so far behind Marvel, no forward thinking or vision. Just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what hopefully sticks.
Err... never mind.
Yes? They establish important things like character. We already know who the Joker is. And we dont like him because of his depth as a character but as a mirror to the hero. Explaining the joker makes him ordinary and less of a force of nature.
Would rather have good films.
The connected universe would be dead/rebooted for another time if WW didn't put it on life support.
Its not in an overarching universe.
I disagree regarding the joker not being interesting enough in his own right. Even so, maybe this will be the movie which makes it so for more people.
He came to the studio with a concept they liked so they went forward with it.
Maybe not, but this isn't his replacement. This is just a one-off, non DCEU movie.