But what will you do about the Trump supporters you encounter on this new assignment?
Or you know, don't discuss politics at work and do your fucking work and get paid and put food on the table for your family. Jesus christ, it's not hard.If OP is smart he will listen to them and try to understand someone else's point of view on different issues. At the very worst he simply learns how to tolerate someone with different political views (a must have life skill) and at the very best maybe he is able to persuade them with well reasoned arguments of his own.
The post office is a very difficult job, but if you can swing it the pay is pretty great.
If OP is smart he will listen to them and try to understand someone else's point of view on different issues. At the very worst he simply learns how to tolerate someone with different political views (a must have life skill) and at the very best maybe he is able to persuade them with well reasoned arguments of his own.
Or you know, don't discuss politics at work and do your fucking work and get paid and put food on the table for your family. Jesus christ, it's not hard.
Or you know, don't discuss politics at work and do your fucking work and get paid and put food on the table for your family. Jesus christ, it's not hard.
Again, I agree, but if other people want to talk politics in your vicinity you can't really stop them.
You can call Trump the Antichrist and talk at length about how every Republican will assuredly burn in hell if it actually existed. I'm sure that would be a grand time for everyone.
No it doesn't. It just starts arguments. Keeping quiet and just getting on with your work is better than starting an argument with your colleagues over politics.
People acting like chuds have valid viewpoints that they came across logically instead of being inudated in propaganda for years. You know what happens when you try to meet chuds with reasoned debate and offer up evidence to your claims? They either completely shut down and ignore everything you're gonna say or (if their my kin) get belligerent and have to keep themselves from lashing out violently.You can call Trump the Antichrist and talk at length about how every Republican will assuredly burn in hell if it actually existed. I'm sure that would be a grand time for everyone.
Yeah, it starts arguments that keep on going and going, and annoy everyone, and eventually people agree to just never bring up politics because it's fucking excruciating.
Mission accomplished.
"Keeping quiet and just getting on with your work is better"
Exactly. That's the end goal. People keep quiet and just do the fucking job. If people wanna yammer about how Democrats want to kill America they can do it on their own time or when they're at least isolated from those who don't wanna hear that shit.
Making them feel the same excruciating annoyance and unwelcomeness that you feel. Also, I literally said the entire end goal was that people eventually shut the fuck up about politics. That's not achieved by just trying to ignore it, you'll just keep on having to do that indefinitely.You're living in a fantasy world. This isn't how these discussions go in real life.
What are you achieving exactly that wouldn't also be achieved by just ignoring them and getting on with your work?
The OP has a Trans Rights flag. Assuming they are actually trans, they will not be able to join the military since Trump banned trans people from it last year. =/
Making them feel the same excruciating annoyance and unwelcomeness that you feel.
And I actually have had people stop talking about politics around me by presenting too many contrary opinions in a similar callous way that they were doing. Guess I'm in an isekai. It's a real shitty one, I gotta say.
And you plan on doing that with the entire 50% or so of the population that voted for trump?
As someone who goes to work to earn a living I don't know why anyone would want to start an argument that could easily be avoided.
Not everyone wants to start talking about how dirty liberals are while you're enclosed in a confined space, dude.
Your original post I replied to said you can't do anything.
I'm saying you can. Sometimes in mild cases it's as simple as politely asking to not discuss politics around you. Or if you don't care for the job and are willing to leave it if things turn for the worse, you can just 'discuss' politics in a way that makes it frustrating for everyone involved.
Gee, sounds like nobody should have a reason to talk about how Democrats are destroying America at the workplace then, huh?
I think Military could teach him some discipline, and necessary skills. Staff Sgt won't care he doesn't feel like doing work. If he joins the Marines anyhow. Army is a little more lax, but will still give some discipline.TBF OP can hardly paint a wall or listen to a few Trump supporters without wanting to quit his job.
I doubt the Military is the place for him.
You're a republican aren't you, given you are a political junkie but barely involve yourself in political discourse here. There must be some reason you aren't scratching that itch here.So try to change the behavior of everyone else instead of adapting to the situation?
Listening to politics you disagree with isn't that big of a deal, it may be annoying but it isn't some form of hate speech no matter how much you want it to be.
For some people political discourse is like talking about sports for others. They just can't help themselves. I'm like that, I'm a political junkie and it's one of my primary interests and therefor I discuss it at work often.
Not everyone wants to start talking about how dirty liberals are while you're enclosed in a confined space, dude.
Your original post I replied to said you can't do anything.
I'm saying you can. Sometimes in mild cases it's as simple as politely asking to not discuss politics around you. Or if you don't care for the job and are willing to leave it if things turn for the worse, you can just 'discuss' politics in a way that makes it frustrating for everyone involved.
Doesn't post on Era about politics, only has 100+ posts - therefore, Republican.You're a republican aren't you, given you are a political junkie but barely involve yourself in political discourse here. There must be some reason you aren't scratching that itch here.
I'm saying your "solution" just causes more problems.
I don't disagree with your second paragraph, I just really disagree that arguing with people in the workplace is somehow a better thing to do than just keeping your nose down and getting on with your work. You're there to earn money and OP isn't exactly drowning in job offers, and lives in a country where every 2nd person he meets is going to share the opinions of those that he works with. Your solution is to just argue with all of them until they shut up? In what world is that a reasonable solution for someone who just wants to earn a living?
You have to share space with people you don't share an opinion with. Sometimes they're going to say things you don't agree with. Starting an argument with them at work is not the solution nor is it appropriate. Saying "well they started it by bringing politics up" is childish at best. You're being paid to work, not to argue.
No I also read a bunch of old posts and feel able to connect the dots, but I could be wrongDoesn't post on Era about politics, only has 100+ posts - therefore, Republican.
You're framing this super weird.
Ok, let's say a bunch of people are in a company van, and one says "Man I love how Trump is still pushing for the wall to keep Mexicans out of our country."
Apparently that's not considered starting an argument unless somebody says their (leftist) opinion of Trump in response? Lol.
Correct, but my advise would still be to not talk politics at work. If other people want to then let them, you don't need to engageI guess in reverse, if I'm the first person to say something provocative about Trump being a disaster for the country, I'm not arguing but anybody who responds to me would be?
My 'solution' might cause more problems, especially if people like your supervisor start discriminating against you, hence why I said you would have to be ok with leaving the job if it turns to shit. But I've had it work to stop people from just blabbering incessantly about their shitty views when among a bunch of coworkers that may not agree with them.
Exactly, so the people talking about their love of Trump in an enclosed space with others who they don't know on a personal level should shut the fuck up.
I love all this 'It's okay for them to talk politics to your face, but don't you dare talk back with your own views' bullshit.
You're a republican aren't you, given you are a political junkie but barely involve yourself in political discourse here. There must be some reason you aren't scratching that itch here.
So for you the majority of people in political threads are idiots?Because they don't want to spend all day arguing in politics threads here consisting of people who couldn't collectively screw in a lightbulb?
Some of my family members were just ignorant as hell, and needed extensive and continuous conversations in order to either de-brainwash or pull away from apathetic political viewpoints, but sure let's just lump everybody into categories to make things easy for us to feel better about ourselves.No I also read a bunch of old posts and feel able to connect the dots, but I could be wrong
But sure, Trumpers just have a differing opinion that's worthy of allowing any sort of tolerance
If our discussion is any indication of the political threads here, then yes.So for you the majority of people in political threads are idiots?
Corrwct, it's not starting an argument. They're just saying something you disagree with, they're not attacking you directly. Saying "all republicans should burn in hell" as a response like you suggested would be.
I'm haven't been talking about OP at all. This is all in general.Is OP being discriminated against? From what we were told his supervisor has been pretty supportive of him. You're making a leap here.
Feel better about myself? I just want people to speak more truthfully or from a more truthful position and stop tip toeing around about their actual motives and reasons behind what they saySome of my family members were just ignorant as hell, and needed extensive and continuous conversations in order to either de-brainwash or pull away from apathetic political viewpoints, but sure let's just lump everybody into categories to make things easy for us to feel better about ourselves.
I feel like this conversation will either just spin in circles or become totally irrelevant to the topic at hand.
What political discussion? I'm just saying from what I read that poster seems to be a republican and therefore arguing for tolerance of trumpian political discourse in the workplace out of self interest and defence of shitty right wing politicsIf our discussion is any indication of the political threads here, then yes.
You don't say should, you pull exerpts and lessons from the Bible that demonstrate how far Republicans stayed from it and lay out the argument that if hell was real, Republicans would end up there..
No, what you should do is just get on with your job and ignore them.
You're all driving in a van somewhere, or you're in a stall/booth with nothing needing to be done in that moment. C'mon, dude, think a tiiiiiiny bit here.
Also, FFS, I love how I have to "get on with the job" but the Trumpist gets free reign to blather on. Kinda showing your ass here.
Your logic is just "they're talking politics so I should too" which is logic a 5 year old uses. I'm not talking about wether or not you can talk about politics, but wether or not you should.