Then what are they doing chilling right next to Sephiroth in his key art
They can't be rando mobs
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FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE Trailer for FFVII - A Symphonic Reunion
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Then what are they doing chilling right next to Sephiroth in his key art
They can't be rando mobs
I would be losing my shit far less about this "remake" if they bothered to give old fans a viable alternative that included a full fledged retranslation. You wouldn't hear shit from me.
Are you actually infuriated that:
- We are able to play the original masterpiece in PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4, Xbox One, Switch, PC
- We are getting a cutting edge graphical Remake this generation
Bets for us actually leaving Midgar? Or are they going to make it a surprise for us when we actually have the game in our hands.
Totally goes to credits after they emerge from Midgar and see the beckoning landscape. "We've got one heck of an adventure ahead!"
Nah.
The introduction to Aerith in FFVII is a big part of her character.
A bomb goes off and Aerith, in the midst of the panic, is knocked down by scared pedestrians. She gets up, dusts herself off, and remains calm. That is my Aerith. The woman that died to protect the planet while summoning Holy without one complaint.
And now they have her attacked? And she's scared and panicked and "GOD HELP ME!"? That is a massive change in the characters introduction and how she personifies herself.
The substance the hooded figures are made of looks like the 'dark Lifestream' from Advent Children to me. Wonder if it's Aerith seeing Sephiroth's presence in the Lifestream and freaking out. Why it would take the form of hooded ghosts though, I've no idea. Possibly people's spirits from the Lifestream that have become tainted/corrupted by Sephiroth?
Is that all you want? Fans have re-translated the game. Otherwise Square has put the original version out on multiple platforms recently.
Alternatively to the "ghosts" being Sephiroth clones, they could be a new origin for the Remnants of Sephiroth:
There are 3 ghosts and 3 remnants. Now they were weird ghost things Sephiroth made, but after he was defeated at the end of FF7 they were left behind and became sentient.
There are 3 ghosts and 3 remnants. Now they were weird ghost things Sephiroth made, but after he was defeated at the end of FF7 they were left behind and became sentient.
watching the trailer in slow motion was easier for me to understand now, cloud doesnt see the shadows before and only starts to see after aerith grabs his hand, so it cant be sephiroth clones or sephirothn remnants, because a) they arent invisible in the original b) and even if they were in the remake, by logic cloud should be able to see them
, the voices of the planet is the only answer viable so far i think, unless nomura will go crazy
because he also has sephiroth genes and has a connection to him
Alternatively to the "ghosts" being Sephiroth clones, they could be a new origin for the Remnants of Sephiroth:
There are 3 ghosts and 3 remnants. Now they were weird ghost things Sephiroth made, but after he was defeated at the end of FF7 they were left behind and became sentient.
I mentioned that earlier. It's lazy as fuck. They have, again, translated FFIV at least on 4-5 occasions. They re-release their most famous game and couldn't be assed to give it the translation it deserves. It's lazy, showing preicsely the mindset of modern Square Enix. The Square of ten years ago even would have gone all out and retranslated FFVII with a fucking AO Smith script. Scraping the bottom of the barrel, doing the least of things, doing the easiest way out, that's modern SE.
That´s a more realistic scenario for me:
She is connected to the planet, something happens, maybe all the recent deaths because of the reactor explosion? She touches Cloud and he sees it too?
I don't see where people connect Sephiroth to this scene. The poster is something else, the trailer does not include him.
Square Enix's claim is that each part of FFVII will be like a full game (outside of the story being cut into parts) & have content similar to the amount one part of FFXIII's trilogy has. To get Midgar to be that much content, AT THE VERY LEAST, they'd have to expand it to be 3-4x the size it is in the original game. That doesn't sound particularly realistic.
So far the remake has been fairly 1:1 to the original game to the point where people can take screenshots from the original game and juxtapose those with scenes from the remake. There are slightly altered scenes/rewritten dialogue but ultimately it all still follows the blueprint of the original fairly closely, outside of what is probably just a short hallusination shot of Sephiroth by Cloud and those shadows in this trailer.
Midgar will be longer than in the original game simply due to the somewhat modernized nature of this remake but not 3-4x the OG Midgar prologue that it would require if they are still holding on to the "each part will be like a full game" aim.
It doesn't really change anything, yar? Jessie in the original is surprised at the damage while watching the news. They pretty much just moved the conversation?
I wouldn't say anything about pacing distrupting or whatnot because it's a trailer. However, I really like how Aerith just came off as nobody special to Cloud during their first encounter. Just a random flower-selling girl who he may or may not buy a flower from to maybe give to Tifa or Marlene. Aerith forcing a flower to Cloud in the previous trailer already changed that. This trailer takes it to the next level.
I don't understand how you ignore the key art. How do you describe its creation?
Did Square pull in a PNG of the ghosts with a transparent background and say, "eh, it looks good and spooky" with no meaning whatsoever?
Final Fantasy VII Remake ~Episode 1.0 Midgar Chapter Prologue~
Alternatively to the "ghosts" being Sephiroth clones, they could be a new origin for the Remnants of Sephiroth:
There are 3 ghosts and 3 remnants. Now they were weird ghost things Sephiroth made, but after he was defeated at the end of FF7 they were left behind and became sentient.
dear jesus no
The Trailer before this one. FF7 State of Play trailer. Right after the explosion, Cloud is looking up through the flames and sees Sephiroth.
At 50 seconds in, and he's also talking to Cloud as well, but that's a whole different tangent I won't go into.
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I'm just saying there were ghost enemies in the original game and this doesn't mean they are necessarily going crazy adding Genesis in or wildly changing the story. There is naturally gonna be a lot more dialogue and scenes that aren't necessarily gonna play out the same as the stilted dialogue and handful of emotes in the original game, I understand this scene doesn't work for you. The game may not work for me, I would have preferred a graphically modernized version of the old game, but we've known that ain't gonna happen for years now.
In Midgar, no less! :)
At the end, you just fight Sephiroth for no good reason. "It's been a long time... CLOUD..."
"Sephirooooth!"
"Did you like my idea of breeding Red XIII with Aerith?"
"That was YOUR PLAN!? OaauUUgHhhGHH"
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We cant deny this will 90% be the case, but I have to hold out hope. Imagine how little we knew about God of War and the way that game was able to surprise everyone because of the lack of info we were given/shown.
I haven't read any of the FFVII novellas etc, and it's a long time since I've seen AC - were the remnants present before AC, as in during FFVII? I thought they appeared in the Lifestream after Sephiroth was defeated but i don't actually know. If they're introducing the Remnants.... Hoo boy. :/
I'm still trying to get over what they did to "Hurry Faster" in this and the last trailer :( Barely recognizeable.
Apples to Tomatoes, that comparison is though. God of War was a sequel/reboot to a game, not a remake of an existing one. We know the story beats of this, and the trailers don't hold up to scrutiny if we're to assume they're being made from the perspective of "selling it" to people who know nothing about the game.
Huh?
Jessie is surprised by how LITTLE damage there was and decided she fucked the bomb up. That's why literally the next day they go back to plant a new bomb: because the original bomb wasn't her best.
Here Jessie is like,"we did this?!?!" after making a bomb for a terrorist attack. It's fucking stupid. Jessie knew what she signed up for.
Yep, that gif pretty much captures my attitude regarding the trio's haters.
Unfortunately I have to agree. From the trailer this looks like it's going to be a dumbed-down, button smashing, charmless, trying too hard to be cool piece of shit. Not to mention the horrible English voice acting and these pain barks... Someone should remove the music from this trailer to emphasize how ridiculous this sounds.
Yes I know it's supposed to be a new game and changes are normal. But besides the (amazing) graphics all changes so far suck IMO.
Wait, no. Jessie is explicitly surprised at how big the blast was, and ponders if it's her fault even though she's only following the schematic.
And the mission the next day has nothing to do with that. The second bombing mission is for Reactor 5, a different reactor than the opening's Reactor 1.
Right, if they are being shown to sell new player on it. However, if that isn't totally the case, then by insistently not showing footage past early areas of the game, it might condition us to accept that they aren't doing more than Midgar, and it can have that blades of chaos effect that took most everyone by surprise when in this case you are introduced to the expansive overworld. Wishful thinking?
Wait a second, I thought they didn't go back, but actually went to a new reactor?
Was I tragically mistaken as a child?
No, the way it's framed in this trailer they seem to be changing it so that it actually wasn't Avalanche's fault that the explosion caused as much damage as it did.
It's kinda important that they be to blame for innocent deaths. Especially for Barret.
Regarding Aerith, she's supposed to be headstrong and manipulative. She strings Cloud along for much of the game and clearly knows more about him than she lets on.
Thought so. Well idk then lol
Still think it's likely to do with Sephiroth corrupting the Lifestream/Aerith freaking out when she senses the corrupted spirits of the dead. I don't see how it would make sense for the remnants to exist at the same time as sephiroth since he's still 'alive' at this point.
Alternatively to the "ghosts" being Sephiroth clones, they could be a new origin for the Remnants of Sephiroth:
There are 3 ghosts and 3 remnants. Now they were weird ghost things Sephiroth made, but after he was defeated at the end of FF7 they were left behind and became sentient.
Sephiroth Clone
We've finally released samples into town. They walk all around town, but do not seem to want to leave it. Furthermore, two of them are still in their pods. Again, no explanation is provided to me. Could the procedure have failed? No, impossible! Professor Hojo's experiments don't...
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Since the Sephiroth Clones are kind of the same thing, I hope it's that rather than that trio being introduced early. I'd like to see the hooded guys essentially be similar to V in Devil May Cry where their physical bodies are weak, but they can summon shadows to do the fighting for them.
Because FF7 and its spinoffs are popular so everything that was mysterious is now blaringly on-the-nose for fan service?
I've seen it happen before in other properties.
Floating ghost spookies in the opening Midgar segment?! Nah man, I don't like that. If they're adding new shit to the story then that's just gonna give me flashbacks to all the awful new story additions that featured in AC/CC... like Gackt. That's the last thing I want from Remake.
You're right about the reactor being different.
Either way:
She's proud. Because Jessie is a terrorist. "We did this?!?!" Nah.
there was gameplay. and more will probably be shown tomorrow
would be reassuring to see way more, which i'm kinda doubting we will. but see where it goes
"Vaguely based on"...
Come on, this is a remake haha.
I'm not saying you are wrong about the change of tone, buy it's too early to say.
The game up to the second bombing mission is quite intense.
I will say one thing, independent of this guy.
Midgar, for most of its run, is pretty grounded. Yeah, you have materia that casts magic and dudes with swords taking down huge machines, but it all stays within a self-consistent bubble of reality. There's a certain "high tech low life" slummy feel where the poor are trying to rise up and defeat these woefully misguided "a god am I" zaibatsu types.
If you're having Aerith dodge Sephiroth ghosts when you first meet her, it's...
It makes me feel weird, OK?