After the disappointing Final Fantasy 7R sales, how will Part 2 be impacted?
SquareEnix Q1 report shows a disappointing start for FF7Remake. - In Japan, remake stands with less than
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Final Fantasy VII Remake shipped + digitally sold over 5 million copies; Highest selling digital title for Square Enix on PS (2 Million)
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You all are being weird and needlessly aggressive.
All I said is that I find it weird and disappointing for the remake of Final Fantasy VII to lag behind games like FFXV and KH3 shipments wise, since it's supposed to be a much bigger deal than those games. I don't think it's that nonsensical of a claim to make.
Other posters respectfully disagreed and pointed out stuff like discounts and the fact that XV released in holiday season, which I haven't considered, and made for good discussion.
Claiming that I'm delusional, want the game to fail, and that I have no right to give my two cents since the company is publicly bragging about the sales, isn't respectful nor it makes for a good discussion.
Good numbers (considering that most were at launch). Once it's released on further platforms (i.e. PC and Xbox) it'll probably reach around 7-8 million eventually.
Then factor in a next-gen edition once part II come out, then we're looking at pretty good sales for a FF title.
Then factor in a next-gen edition once part II come out, then we're looking at pretty good sales for a FF title.
Another thing to consider is that XV and KH3 seem to have over shipped and VII has pretty much sold through its physical units and the insanely high digital ratio means more money for Square
Sales for that title are unusually US/JP heavy, where that's not typical of PS titles. usually US/EU sales are somewhat on par. They're not- because COVID is distorting game sales heavily in the US. it will take a longer period of time to see how sales for FF7R will play out in non US/JP territories. That's why "wait for the holidays" makes sense. You can't point to another year for a similar sales curve because there IS no year like this one.
Despite that (or because of it, it's difficult to say) this game is tracking as well as the original FF7 release did on PS1- despite the playstation splitting the US market with the Xbox (the N64 was not as strong a competitor and had zero percent of the jrpg market, unless you want to count quest 64, which you shouldn't).
The PS4 version should sell several million more copies before the end of the year as we drop the price significantly, get into holiday season, and yes- the game shows up on Steam and Xbox which it eventually will. This game will *absolutely, positively* also end up getting some kind of remastered or definitive release to take advantage of the capabilities of the PS5 and XsX.
So yeah, wait for the holidays to catch up, EU sales to normalize with US ones, and for the multiplatform and definitive editions to release. It will definitely pass the PS1 FF7, though by how much its too early to say.
I think that people's expectations were probably out of proportion to the game. Square's expectations probably weren't that the game would perform as well as XV, since remakes never (or, at least, exceedingly rarely) perform as well as new releases, so that it came within throwing distance of that game is probably well outside of what they predicted
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Square Enix gave it the time, money, and resources that a mainline game would get, and it's getting the sales that a mainline game would get, and when it gets ported to PC and Xbox it will very likely exceed the sales that any mainline game has gotten.
I really don't see what there is to talk about. The more interesting question is how the sequels will do.
I really don't see what there is to talk about. The more interesting question is how the sequels will do.
I don't know about XV overshipping, since it shipped an extra million by December 2016, and another one during 2017. The total shipments by Jan 2018 were 7M. I agree that 2M digital copies @ full price are impressive and maybe made for the difference.
I think it's pretty naïf to compare FFVII Remake with your standard remake.
This was marketed as the biggest Square games of the past few years and FFVII is not only one of the most popular and revered games of all time... It was also one of the best-selling ones at that time—popularity also grew thanks to multiple rereleases. (I would like to add that sales of the original game vastly underestimates its popularity as the game was shared, bought secondhand and pirated a lot as many other PS1 games).
To be honest I was expecting much more given the fact that AAA threshold is higher and higher and PS4 is a wildly popular platform. Sales are good but not as a good as I would have expected for such a remake.
Recent example of remake selling better than the original game: Xenoblade Chronicles on Switch.
Why did you quote me in this reply? There was absolutely nothing weird, disrespectful or "aggressive" about my post.
I said nothing close to what you described here.
If this is true, I think that SE is out of tune with the overseas market. Few Japanese games had more hype than FFVII remake. Perhaps this explain why it took so long to make one.... and why this was chosen for an exclusive game.
Word is that it surpassed Square's internal expectations, though, so that seems pretty open-and-shut: it's outdone their expectations and changed how they're looking at the sequel
Ok, freely admit I forgot about that one but come ON.
It also just occurred to me that the second US stimulus package should hit somewhere around september at this rate- so who knows what this is going to do with US holiday game sales. That's thousands of dollars per household for spending that usually isn't there.
Final Fantasy is a very divisive franchise. The more successful you are, the longer you've been around, the more potential for you to offend someone somehow.
The very nature of the franchise is to change, when can burn old fans, it also has jumped platforms in a way that has linked it to system wars bullshit.
You're in luck! Sales are great and it didn't lose its soul.
Is it on pace to outsell FF XV?
I hoped for more. It's a big budget game released on a huge install base. Hopefully it has long legs.
I hoped for more. It's a big budget game released on a huge install base. Hopefully it has long legs.
Congratulations, SE! Those are some nice numbers!
Your thread was immediately locked because it was "built on a faulty premise". Sales of FFVII R are very obviously not disappointing. Why would you come into this thread to double down on that assertion?
Your thread was immediately locked because it was "built on a faulty premise". Sales of FFVII R are very obviously not disappointing. Why would you come into this thread to double down on that assertion?
Your thread got locked because it was terrible. This is the fastest-selling platform exclusive JRPG outside of Pokemon. There's no realistic universe where that is considered disappointing.
ok but I said "explode"
I want FF to be an even bigger/more popular franchise
FF is my favorite series and I never beat the original
you'll be fine lol
Heard from couple of guys who enjoyed the remake without playing the original.
The remake/reimagining thing is hard to convey. Also
'Remake' means remaking the story, challenging destiny, it's not really a remake... unless they bail from that idea. [\spoiler]
I think he meant the original 7. and I would say that's wrong. If anything people who play Remake first will less likely to be disappointed than the fans of the original.
Saying these sales are "disappointing" is the same level of trying to say TLOU2 sales are. Animal crossing and Mario Kart and GTAV have really warped things.
I don't know, they might think it doesn't live up to best game ever status.
I agree....even though there are a ton of people that seem to be downplaying it.
SE is happy with the numbers and I am sure that once it releases on Xbox and PC next year(probably), sales will get even better.
It isn't. FF XV shipped 5 millions within 3 days. This is after 4 months.
The main difference is PS4 alone versus PS4+Xbone and FFXV releasing in december (so higher potential sales due to holidays)
FFXV sold 5m in a single day. Though it was also on the Xbox, but the PS4 has a higher install base right now.
Final Fantasy 15 is the fastest-selling game in series history
That includes downloads of the game
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Well, I mean, it IS Square-Enix.
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Well it was definitely a massacre.
Well it was definitely a massacre.
Well, I mean, it IS Square-Enix.
Tomb Raider has sold 3.4 million copies, failed to hit expectations
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They were smoking some good ass weed if they thought 3.4 million copies in 4 WEEKS were not enough.
And now they are happy with 4 million in 5 months.
EDIT. i just googled and they said this in 2017
Square Enix CEO says the company’s Tomb Raider sales targets were “extremely high”
The Tomb Raider reboot in 2013 was pretty successful, but it famously failed to meet Square Enix’s internal sales targets, despite pushing over 3.4 million units in its early days and going on to become the best-selling game in series history. You might say that the publisher’s expectations for
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NO FUCKING SHIT
Also worth noting that XV and VIIR are also the only ones with a simultaneous release. Even FFXIII was released 4 months earlier in Japan.
5 million is really good for a JRPG on one platform. I think it can sell a bit more on PS4, and then if it ports over to PS5, XSX, X1, and PC...it can easily be the best selling single player Final Fantasy of all time.
I was just thinking the same thing. The concern trolling was hilarious to say the least.