Fallout 76's physics apparently tied to framerate, can walk faster by looking at the ground
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ya the beta is more like an alpha...no way they fix this mess before release. at least thank you for inviting me to the beta, it just convinced me to not buy the game until its fixed at LEAST.
I suspect 76 is going to be the one that breaks the camels back.
The excuse I always heard with their engine was the persistence and interactivity of objects in the world they didn't want to change but shouldn't really matter all things considered if they wanted to improve things and keep those aspects.
I think it basically boils down to not wanting to put the time in to improve things which would impact their game development. Say, they are doing Elder Scrolls and Starlight in this crap engine, to put in the work and expertise into a new engine Bethesda probably think, nah let's not.
I think it basically boils down to not wanting to put the time in to improve things which would impact their game development. Say, they are doing Elder Scrolls and Starlight in this crap engine, to put in the work and expertise into a new engine Bethesda probably think, nah let's not.
It's not something they can fix without completely overhauling the engine
I was originally hyped for this game but honestly the more I hear about it the less interested I'm becoming...
They're 400 people total across all their studios and not all of them are working on this. It's a fallacy to treat them like they're huge. They're half the size of Bungie and Bioware and a little less in size than 343. I think that explains the quality difference between Bungie and what 343 and Bethesda put out.
I just think it's unfair to Bethesda to keep expecting Ubisoft, Bungie or Blizzard quality from them.
That doesn't excuse releasing this game in the mess it's shaping up to be.
If you think about it, for the work needed to bring things to say a Witcher/Rockstar quality, you probably wouldn't see a Fallout/Elder Scrolls/Starlight until 2025. Bethesda have screwed themselves by letting the problem linger, they'll need to do something eventually but it means breaking things hard.
Honestly I'd be okay waiting for that if the quality we get out of it was comparable to Rockstar or CD Projekt
I think they're neck deep in new engine development and hopefully it's not an iteration on Creation/Gamebryo. This game was their hold over title to fill the gap. They had a MP studio in Texas that failed at making a game, but had mp architecture stuff while the MD studio had an engine they were well versed in. They married the two and came up with this in a few years. I think it makes sense, even if I honestly believe the launch should be delayed at least a month and the beta extended.
Probably. I guess the advantage of Bethesda working on a new engine is they're never going to run into the Square Enix/Crystal Tools fiesta of constantly changing specs on what sort of game they want the engine built for. Their games are a type and in that sense it's basically the next-generation of the sorts of stuff they've been doing for years. I don't know how much of an issue it would be for them but I imagine they also want to make sure it's as mod friendly as Creation/Gamebryo because it's...like their hallmark on PC.
They can work concurrently on a new engine or use a better existing one.
https://kotaku.com/fallout-76-betas-physics-are-tied-to-its-framerate-1830140345
according to this bethesda will fix it when the game launches.
So, we know that they can make it work with 90 fps based on fallout 4 vr. I wonder if they will actually properly support high refresh rate or just hard lock it to 60.
But crazy how long this issue existed in Beth games but they only got around to doing something about it. Man, we really should have made more noise about things like this instead of just letting the community fix everything.
according to this bethesda will fix it when the game launches.
So, we know that they can make it work with 90 fps based on fallout 4 vr. I wonder if they will actually properly support high refresh rate or just hard lock it to 60.
But crazy how long this issue existed in Beth games but they only got around to doing something about it. Man, we really should have made more noise about things like this instead of just letting the community fix everything.
They do good work for such a small development team, but man are these bugs getting more and more ridiculous. I feel a game like this, which already ventures away from the core niche Bethesda has been able to rely on, might erode a lot of the goodwill surrounding the technical faults.
Fallout 4 was broken at high framerates, so this doesn't surprise me.
I'm done with Gamebryo games, won't spend another dime on them. Bethesda can dress up the engine and rename it whatever they like, it's still the same shit engine at its core.
I'm done with Gamebryo games, won't spend another dime on them. Bethesda can dress up the engine and rename it whatever they like, it's still the same shit engine at its core.
I suspect the latter as it's the easiest (and quickest) route. I also suspect that this is the first and last time they do a beta of any kind.
The seller:
Hahaha exactly, totally my fault though I did no homework on it and made a blind impulse.
I think the concept is solid. But they really need more powerful hardware, and for the love of God, an updated game engine to pull it off. I'll be passing on 76.
When people stop giving them more and more money for the same nonsense.
It can be done on current hardware, it's really just their engine that is not up to the task. I mean, hell, it's already severely limited as a single player game engine, much less online.
They are probably the only dev making open world games where you cannot make working ladders. Ladders! smh...
Bethesda doesn't really have a great excuse for this sort of thing but the performance was excellent for me, no bugs yet either, my only real complaint so far is that there are no fov options and there's some sort of shitty mouse acceleration that you cant turn off, the beta has been a lot of fun so far.
Nothing. They just reused Fallout 4 in the old engine and added networking capabilities. Why would they invest the time to add networking to such an old engine wtf.
porting skyrim to everything they can think of.
Next step is to make it run on one of those fridges with a screen.